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Did Wallace call out the Proud Boys, or was it Trump? I thought it was Trump. Wallace wouldn't name a group when Trump asked. Honestly, it was a softball question and Trump made it difficult and hit a foul ball.RaceBannon said:My take is that the idea that right wing equals racist is over
The Proud Boys are not my cup of tea but they don't appear to be racist. They hate the left. There are Blacks, Samoans, whites and women
So why is Chris Wallace calling them and Trump racist?
Your backtrack to calling them low brow is acceptable to the panel
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Agreed. But anti-Trumpism is a blip on the historical radar. The Jews have incurred the ire of people all over the globe seemingly since the beginning of time. It's crazy how maligned they have been and by as many different groups. It's astonishing.TurdBomber said:
Short Answer: Simpletonism. It's a lot easier to say "Jews are bad" or "Orange Man Bad" than to delve into the policies and actions that underlie the controversy that surrounds them.creepycoug said:
A lot of truth to this.TurdBomber said:
You'll find bizarre anti-semitism factions in almost any organized group. There are plenty in the Seattle Teacher's Union, for example, and they gather like flies around Kshama Sawant. It seems to be receding on the right while growing on the left, IMHO.creepycoug said:
See my response to @HoustonHusky . I don't operate in that crowd. Too low brow for a big-time corporate lawyer who fills his days filling his briefs with filler information and then hitting the links.RaceBannon said:
The Proud Boys appear to be more diverse than the school that Biden wanted to send his kids to
Gee did the Left lie again?
@creepycoug what say you?
Maybe they are only antisemitic. I don't really know. Or maybe they're pretty enlightened and welcome all members. I kind of doubt that. The group in Portland has a pretty bad rep and has attracted some skinhead peel offs from what I've read / heard. To be fair, I've also read/heard that the group tries to limit that particular element.
I'm guessing that if you ran with that bunch you'd probably encounter more than a few racist people, but then that can be said about a lot of groups.
I know one thing: Cubans can be pretty racist. It never occurred to me that black-Cubans could be racist against themselves. Damn.
Here's my serious guess: the people who started the group's organization were pleasantly surprised to learn that there are black Hispanics who are REALLY FUCKING CONSERVATIVE and were like, "we hit the jackpot! bring those guys in!"
And you'll find ex-cons, registered sex offenders, including pedophiles, rapists, domestic abusers, skinheads and racists by the truck full at any Antifa rally. A lot of Antifa are there just to break and burn shit while assaulting people and attacking "the system" or "the man" - probably because they were held accountable for some heinous crime they still won't admit they committed or was their fault.
Many Antifa are simply social retards living out (larping) their video game fantasies of conducting some fictitious war against some fictitious enemy on the streets, all in hopes of eventually getting laid. It's not that complicated.
I've never fully understood the origins of the wide-spread issue with the Jews. So many groups take issue with them and I don't get it.
80% - 90% of Biden voters simply hate Trump while being stunningly unaware of what a duplicitous prick Biden has been for decades, accomplishing astonishingly little in his 47 years on Capitol Hill while riding the Catholic vote to repeated election victories.
The same group probably can't list 5 things Trump has done - good or bad - that would justify a vote in favor or against, but they'll almost universally tell you what an asshole, jerk, or racist Trump is.
Meanwhile, Biden is just "the other guy" representing the "anyone but Trump" contingent. -
Wallace didn't, but Biden did kind of out of the side of his mouth.alumni94 said:
Did Wallace call out the Proud Boys, or was it Trump? I thought it was Trump. Wallace wouldn't name a group when Trump asked. Honestly, it was a softball question and Trump made it difficult and hit a foul ball.RaceBannon said:My take is that the idea that right wing equals racist is over
The Proud Boys are not my cup of tea but they don't appear to be racist. They hate the left. There are Blacks, Samoans, whites and women
So why is Chris Wallace calling them and Trump racist?
Your backtrack to calling them low brow is acceptable to the panel -
I thought the point was the debates and Trump's gaffe. As others said, he fumbled it. Of course the Proud Boys are not a national focus (at least they weren't before last night) - it was the context of the question. Whether it hurts his election remains to be seen. How big of a deal it's blow into, etc. And plenty of people would care if the PB were prima facie a racist hate group. If it Biden had slipped "KKK" into the conversation instead of Proud Boys and Trump told them to stand back and stand ready, it would for sure be a big deal even though the economy and other things are more important.PostGameOrangeSlices said:creepycoug said:
Not your best work. It's like you want to miss the point.PostGameOrangeSlices said:The proud boys arent racist and no one really gives a shit if they were. The issues that matter are jobs, the economy, etc. Most people remember things humming along before the chinese virus and dem state excessive lockdowns.
Most people dont like to see riots in big cities with looting and burning buildings and dead cops.
These are the issues that will carry Trump to a big win. Biden has nothing of substance.
It's actually you who misses the point. No one gives a fuck about the proud boys. No one.
Was it a dumb answer by Trump? Yes. Will anyone that was considering voting for him care? No. They will say "what the fuck is a proud boy", google and see some CNN and mother jones bs, and shrug
No one gives a shit lol. The election is about higher level concepts like who is fucking over the middle class. And the answer is the dems -
The whole thing is designed to obfuscate Joe not condemning antifa and trying to shift blame for the riots to the right wing
As usual it crumbled rather quickly
Trump is verbally clumsy. Film at 11
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HHusky said:
Bull fucking shit!RaceBannon said:
"Stand down . . but, but, but the problem is the left!" Equivocating motherfucker.
I know Race, real racism is knowing what the "N-word" stands for.PostGameOrangeSlices said:The proud boys arent racist and no one really gives a shit if they were. The issues that matter are jobs, the economy, etc. Most people remember things humming along before the chinese virus and dem state excessive lockdowns.
Most people dont like to see riots in big cities with looting and burning buildings and dead cops.
These are the issues that will carry Trump to a big win. Biden has nothing of substance.
Especially given, well, joobs.creepycoug said:
Agreed. But anti-Trumpism is a blip on the historical radar. The Jews have incurred the ire of people all over the globe seemingly since the beginning of time. It's crazy how maligned they have been and by as many different groups. It's astonishing.TurdBomber said:
Short Answer: Simpletonism. It's a lot easier to say "Jews are bad" or "Orange Man Bad" than to delve into the policies and actions that underlie the controversy that surrounds them.creepycoug said:
A lot of truth to this.TurdBomber said:
You'll find bizarre anti-semitism factions in almost any organized group. There are plenty in the Seattle Teacher's Union, for example, and they gather like flies around Kshama Sawant. It seems to be receding on the right while growing on the left, IMHO.creepycoug said:
See my response to @HoustonHusky . I don't operate in that crowd. Too low brow for a big-time corporate lawyer who fills his days filling his briefs with filler information and then hitting the links.RaceBannon said:
The Proud Boys appear to be more diverse than the school that Biden wanted to send his kids to
Gee did the Left lie again?
@creepycoug what say you?
Maybe they are only antisemitic. I don't really know. Or maybe they're pretty enlightened and welcome all members. I kind of doubt that. The group in Portland has a pretty bad rep and has attracted some skinhead peel offs from what I've read / heard. To be fair, I've also read/heard that the group tries to limit that particular element.
I'm guessing that if you ran with that bunch you'd probably encounter more than a few racist people, but then that can be said about a lot of groups.
I know one thing: Cubans can be pretty racist. It never occurred to me that black-Cubans could be racist against themselves. Damn.
Here's my serious guess: the people who started the group's organization were pleasantly surprised to learn that there are black Hispanics who are REALLY FUCKING CONSERVATIVE and were like, "we hit the jackpot! bring those guys in!"
And you'll find ex-cons, registered sex offenders, including pedophiles, rapists, domestic abusers, skinheads and racists by the truck full at any Antifa rally. A lot of Antifa are there just to break and burn shit while assaulting people and attacking "the system" or "the man" - probably because they were held accountable for some heinous crime they still won't admit they committed or was their fault.
Many Antifa are simply social retards living out (larping) their video game fantasies of conducting some fictitious war against some fictitious enemy on the streets, all in hopes of eventually getting laid. It's not that complicated.
I've never fully understood the origins of the wide-spread issue with the Jews. So many groups take issue with them and I don't get it.
80% - 90% of Biden voters simply hate Trump while being stunningly unaware of what a duplicitous prick Biden has been for decades, accomplishing astonishingly little in his 47 years on Capitol Hill while riding the Catholic vote to repeated election victories.
The same group probably can't list 5 things Trump has done - good or bad - that would justify a vote in favor or against, but they'll almost universally tell you what an asshole, jerk, or racist Trump is.
Meanwhile, Biden is just "the other guy" representing the "anyone but Trump" contingent.
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"I want to open it up, he wants to close it down."thechatch said:The election is about the economy.
Everything else is soup and salad.
Protests and coronabro "cases" and climate change wrt shit environmental management is just a giant fucking distraction at this point. -
Yeah but dude. Brazil man. We got to give them money.haie said:
"I want to open it up, he wants to close it down."thechatch said:The election is about the economy.
Everything else is soup and salad.
Protests and coronabro "cases" and climate change wrt shit environmental management is just a giant fucking distraction at this point.
Or do you hate trees? -
I really hate trees. Worst moments in my husky fandom caused by trees. Burn em all down. Ban em from the conference. 6k undergrad student body? Fuck outta MY conference.Pitchfork51 said:
Yeah but dude. Brazil man. We got to give them money.haie said:
"I want to open it up, he wants to close it down."thechatch said:The election is about the economy.
Everything else is soup and salad.
Protests and coronabro "cases" and climate change wrt shit environmental management is just a giant fucking distraction at this point.
Or do you hate trees? -
DuckDan wouldn’t rent to Section 8 recipients and @HHusky was his biggest fan.RaceBannon said:
You mean grandpa dumbassHHusky said:
Riiiggght. Daddy was framed by Nixon's Justice Department, I'm sure.RaceBannon said:
Since they rented it to me when I was alone I don't think soHHusky said:
Maybe you were the issue.RaceBannon said:HHusky said:
You seem to have entirely forgotten that your kids aren't good enough to rent in one of Daddy's shitty buildings.RaceBannon said:HHusky said:
Bull fucking shit!RaceBannon said:
"Stand down . . but, but, but the problem is the left!" Equivocating motherfucker.
I know Race, real racism is knowing what the "N-word" stands for.
Shut up crackerHHusky said:
Bull fucking shit!RaceBannon said:
"Stand down . . but, but, but the problem is the left!" Equivocating motherfucker.
I know Race, real racism is knowing what the "N-word" stands for.
Joe Biden said my kids aren't good enough to go to school with his kids in the jungle
No one in our house is confused as to the racist is
Take your white bread racist ass and go fuck yourself
Tuff liberal lawyer must be ashamed.
Now I did have to threaten a condo in Democrat Seattle when they tried to renege on a rental agreement when they saw the family
Your continuing defense of racism is noted
Not renting to welfare recipients equals not renting to Blacks. If you're racist
Meanwhile Joe Biden didn't want his kids going to school with our kids
Cracker
