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I agree. Trump screwed that up. The leftists and media will and have pounced, and most people don't know much about the PB and take dumb social media posts and the feckless media's takes on them seriously.creepycoug said:
I don't think they are neo-nazi or KKK and said as much pretty early on. But the group was founded by a guy with those tendencies and he hasn't been gone long. They may well have cleaned themselves up. Don't know. I do know it's not a group that the Pres. should affiliate or align himself with. If you disagree with that then fine.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
There are racists in the group. There are racist Antifa members. Anything that's not lock step with the SJW agenda is suspect to these sheep.creepycoug said:
Their founder has certainly danced on the line of white nationalism.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They aren't white supremacist.Houhusky said:
I know very little about the proud boys other than it was founded by former Vice media founder and its now run by a Enrique Tarrio, an AfroCuban guy.creepycoug said:
The worst part about it was that the question was SO OBBIOUSLY canned and served up for him as a test. And while he was in the process of failing the test, the moderator kept nudging him and making it clear that this was a statement question and gave him a couple of chances to get it right and he just kept fucking it up. You could tell the gears were spinning and he made a calculated move. He just calculated badly. Very, very, very badly.thechatch said:I still can’t believe how badly Trump fucked up the condemning hate groups question.
“I condemn racism and hate groups of all kinds, unlike my opponent, who calls black people street predators, and is worried about white kids having to grow up in a racial jungle. My opponent, who supported race riots for months and encouraged domestic terrorists to attack the police and residents of our cities.”
That is low hanging fruit, and Trump fucked up royally with the “stand down and stand by” comment. He basically made himself the commanding officer of the Proud Boys.
We call those unforced errors, imo
I have a sense for the line on which he is dancing. There are plenty of people, both in and outside of his base, who speak plainly and directly about race relations and have politically incorrect views on race according to the left; but those people are not racists. The Tug, for example, is full of those people. I think perhaps Trump and his advisors don't sufficiently appreciate the difference between those people and people like the Proud Boys. If I'm right about that, then that's on him and his people.
In any event, whatever the reason, he wasn't good on his feet on that point and he may have really screwed the pooch. I don't think this one just goes away because of our? short attention span. If I'm on the left, I hammer this point until it's done.
Here the mini Dateline documentary done by Dateline from a couple years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7f4b1o6BKM&app=desktop
Are they actually a white supremacist group or are they just labeled that by the media at large?
The media is lazy and/or disingenuous.
In 2002 he stated that he was glad that Brooklyn hipsters were predominantly white. In a separate interview he said, ''I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of.
“I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life.''
Sounds like OBK if I say so myself.
There are some interesting articles out there about the increased enrollment of afro-hispanics with the organization. Not sure I understand the group entirely myself. I would expect you'd find a decent amount of racist people among their ranks despite the membership of afro-hispanics.
Media acts like it's neo-Nazis and it's not. They carry water for slow Joe, Dems, and China. We all see it.
As for Gavin, he's a provocateur and comedian. He loves to hear himself talk. I haven't seen his YouTube stuff much for six months or so. Maybe he's racist. But to the left everything is so the cynical question is how much. -
The Nation of Islam is explicitly anti-white and anti-Semitic. Spike Lee loves himself some interracial relationships. If we played reverse the races, both Farrakhan and Spike Lee would be nobodies with no influence at all on the body politic and be broke ass. Official BLM is anti-white, anti-American, anti-family and pro communist and violent. Having the entire MSM and a big swath of Fox News focusing on white supremacists while ignoring the real danger to the US is beyond pathetic.
PS Lebron just to save himself from being hunted down by the police just bought a $37.5 million dollar mansion in LA. Imagine if the US was really the land of opportunity, he may have made something of himself. -
McInnis is an English born Canadian shit-talking provocateur with a terminal case of short man's disease. NOGAF about him and the Proud Boys actually gained notoriety after he left the group.creepycoug said:
Agree with most of that. My jury is still out on Proud Boys. Some interesting stuff out there about why black hispanics have joined and how that works ... kind of.Swaye said:
Public mea culpa. I had believed they were at least passively racist. Got some interesting private comments today and did a little research. They do not appear to be racist upon review. Do they have some members who are probably racist? sure.gifcreepycoug said:
Their founder has certainly danced on the line of white nationalism.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They aren't white supremacist.Houhusky said:
I know very little about the proud boys other than it was founded by former Vice media founder and its now run by a Enrique Tarrio, an AfroCuban guy.creepycoug said:
The worst part about it was that the question was SO OBBIOUSLY canned and served up for him as a test. And while he was in the process of failing the test, the moderator kept nudging him and making it clear that this was a statement question and gave him a couple of chances to get it right and he just kept fucking it up. You could tell the gears were spinning and he made a calculated move. He just calculated badly. Very, very, very badly.thechatch said:I still can’t believe how badly Trump fucked up the condemning hate groups question.
“I condemn racism and hate groups of all kinds, unlike my opponent, who calls black people street predators, and is worried about white kids having to grow up in a racial jungle. My opponent, who supported race riots for months and encouraged domestic terrorists to attack the police and residents of our cities.”
That is low hanging fruit, and Trump fucked up royally with the “stand down and stand by” comment. He basically made himself the commanding officer of the Proud Boys.
We call those unforced errors, imo
I have a sense for the line on which he is dancing. There are plenty of people, both in and outside of his base, who speak plainly and directly about race relations and have politically incorrect views on race according to the left; but those people are not racists. The Tug, for example, is full of those people. I think perhaps Trump and his advisors don't sufficiently appreciate the difference between those people and people like the Proud Boys. If I'm right about that, then that's on him and his people.
In any event, whatever the reason, he wasn't good on his feet on that point and he may have really screwed the pooch. I don't think this one just goes away because of our? short attention span. If I'm on the left, I hammer this point until it's done.
Here the mini Dateline documentary done by Dateline from a couple years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7f4b1o6BKM&app=desktop
Are they actually a white supremacist group or are they just labeled that by the media at large?
The media is lazy and/or disingenuous.
In 2002 he stated that he was glad that Brooklyn hipsters were predominantly white. In a separate interview he said, ''I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of.
“I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life.''
Sounds like OBK if I say so myself.
There are some interesting articles out there about the increased enrollment of afro-hispanics with the organization. Not sure I understand the group entirely myself. I would expect you'd find a decent amount of racist people among their ranks despite the membership of afro-hispanics.
But as an organization, I think there is leftist smear bullshit at work. Trump still could have handled the question better. Does bring up an interesting point though. If you are an organization that espouses violence but are black, it's totally cool. If you are an organization that is far right politically, you are automatically racist and everyone including Wikipedia will label you as racist whether it is true or not.
Pretty cool.
Also a lot of shit out there on the founder, Gavin McInnes, who's had his own radio show and has walked in alt-right circles forever. There's a lot to suggest he's a white nationalist and isn't fond of the Jews. Now, that's the founder and he left in 2018. So there's that. What they really are now is anybody's guess.
Is it racist to support and defend Western Civilization? I don't think so.
Are their racists, sexists, psychos and queers in their ranks? Certainly. Those folks are everywhere these days.
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Yeah - but we still let the Dazzler and @insinceredawg hang around here.TurdBomber said:
McInnis is an English born Canadian shit-talking provocateur with a terminal case of short man's disease. NOGAF about him and the Proud Boys actually gained notoriety after he left the group.creepycoug said:
Agree with most of that. My jury is still out on Proud Boys. Some interesting stuff out there about why black hispanics have joined and how that works ... kind of.Swaye said:
Public mea culpa. I had believed they were at least passively racist. Got some interesting private comments today and did a little research. They do not appear to be racist upon review. Do they have some members who are probably racist? sure.gifcreepycoug said:
Their founder has certainly danced on the line of white nationalism.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They aren't white supremacist.Houhusky said:
I know very little about the proud boys other than it was founded by former Vice media founder and its now run by a Enrique Tarrio, an AfroCuban guy.creepycoug said:
The worst part about it was that the question was SO OBBIOUSLY canned and served up for him as a test. And while he was in the process of failing the test, the moderator kept nudging him and making it clear that this was a statement question and gave him a couple of chances to get it right and he just kept fucking it up. You could tell the gears were spinning and he made a calculated move. He just calculated badly. Very, very, very badly.thechatch said:I still can’t believe how badly Trump fucked up the condemning hate groups question.
“I condemn racism and hate groups of all kinds, unlike my opponent, who calls black people street predators, and is worried about white kids having to grow up in a racial jungle. My opponent, who supported race riots for months and encouraged domestic terrorists to attack the police and residents of our cities.”
That is low hanging fruit, and Trump fucked up royally with the “stand down and stand by” comment. He basically made himself the commanding officer of the Proud Boys.
We call those unforced errors, imo
I have a sense for the line on which he is dancing. There are plenty of people, both in and outside of his base, who speak plainly and directly about race relations and have politically incorrect views on race according to the left; but those people are not racists. The Tug, for example, is full of those people. I think perhaps Trump and his advisors don't sufficiently appreciate the difference between those people and people like the Proud Boys. If I'm right about that, then that's on him and his people.
In any event, whatever the reason, he wasn't good on his feet on that point and he may have really screwed the pooch. I don't think this one just goes away because of our? short attention span. If I'm on the left, I hammer this point until it's done.
Here the mini Dateline documentary done by Dateline from a couple years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7f4b1o6BKM&app=desktop
Are they actually a white supremacist group or are they just labeled that by the media at large?
The media is lazy and/or disingenuous.
In 2002 he stated that he was glad that Brooklyn hipsters were predominantly white. In a separate interview he said, ''I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of.
“I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life.''
Sounds like OBK if I say so myself.
There are some interesting articles out there about the increased enrollment of afro-hispanics with the organization. Not sure I understand the group entirely myself. I would expect you'd find a decent amount of racist people among their ranks despite the membership of afro-hispanics.
But as an organization, I think there is leftist smear bullshit at work. Trump still could have handled the question better. Does bring up an interesting point though. If you are an organization that espouses violence but are black, it's totally cool. If you are an organization that is far right politically, you are automatically racist and everyone including Wikipedia will label you as racist whether it is true or not.
Pretty cool.
Also a lot of shit out there on the founder, Gavin McInnes, who's had his own radio show and has walked in alt-right circles forever. There's a lot to suggest he's a white nationalist and isn't fond of the Jews. Now, that's the founder and he left in 2018. So there's that. What they really are now is anybody's guess.
Is it racist to support and defend Western Civilization? I don't think so.
Are their racists, sexists, psychos and queers in their ranks? Certainly. Those folks are everywhere these days.
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Yes.NorthwestFresh said:
Is “Duck” supposed to be an insult?creepycoug said:
Yeah, I already said that Duck.NorthwestFresh said:
McIness is no longer a part of the group. What’s your point? The group now is clearly integrated and their leader is a Black* Cubano.creepycoug said:
Yes.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Didn't watch/didn't read, but is the "founder's quote" there from Gavin McInness?creepycoug said:
Their founder has certainly danced on the line of white nationalism.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They aren't white supremacist.Houhusky said:
I know very little about the proud boys other than it was founded by former Vice media founder and its now run by a Enrique Tarrio, an AfroCuban guy.creepycoug said:
The worst part about it was that the question was SO OBBIOUSLY canned and served up for him as a test. And while he was in the process of failing the test, the moderator kept nudging him and making it clear that this was a statement question and gave him a couple of chances to get it right and he just kept fucking it up. You could tell the gears were spinning and he made a calculated move. He just calculated badly. Very, very, very badly.thechatch said:I still can’t believe how badly Trump fucked up the condemning hate groups question.
“I condemn racism and hate groups of all kinds, unlike my opponent, who calls black people street predators, and is worried about white kids having to grow up in a racial jungle. My opponent, who supported race riots for months and encouraged domestic terrorists to attack the police and residents of our cities.”
That is low hanging fruit, and Trump fucked up royally with the “stand down and stand by” comment. He basically made himself the commanding officer of the Proud Boys.
We call those unforced errors, imo
I have a sense for the line on which he is dancing. There are plenty of people, both in and outside of his base, who speak plainly and directly about race relations and have politically incorrect views on race according to the left; but those people are not racists. The Tug, for example, is full of those people. I think perhaps Trump and his advisors don't sufficiently appreciate the difference between those people and people like the Proud Boys. If I'm right about that, then that's on him and his people.
In any event, whatever the reason, he wasn't good on his feet on that point and he may have really screwed the pooch. I don't think this one just goes away because of our? short attention span. If I'm on the left, I hammer this point until it's done.
Here the mini Dateline documentary done by Dateline from a couple years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7f4b1o6BKM&app=desktop
Are they actually a white supremacist group or are they just labeled that by the media at large?
The media is lazy and/or disingenuous.
In 2002 he stated that he was glad that Brooklyn hipsters were predominantly white. In a separate interview he said, ''I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of.
“I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life.''
Sounds like OBK if I say so myself.
There are some interesting articles out there about the increased enrollment of afro-hispanics with the organization. Not sure I understand the group entirely myself. I would expect you'd find a decent amount of racist people among their ranks despite the membership of afro-hispanics.
The Democrats were originally founded by slave owners and were segregationists into the 1970s. Joe Biden was pro-segregation as recently as 1977. They filibustered the Civil Rights Act.
Does the mean every Democrat today believes in racism and Jim Crow?
And we know how you feel about the Dixiecrats and partyswitch theory, so not a great comparison to make a point. And McInnes left in late 2018, so yeah, he been gone long tim.
Nobody said everybody in PB was anything. You made that up.
My point was that it was founded by a racist and anti-semitic kook who only left the group to help some of his bros beat the rap. Did I write too many words again?
And yes, you wrote too many words again.
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So, then, joking.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Jokester. Go to 1:50creepycoug said:
Malarkey - meaning he's joking? Or a slightly more credible Alex Jones?GrundleStiltzkin said:
McInnes is well-documented for his malarkey.creepycoug said:
Yes.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Didn't watch/didn't read, but is the "founder's quote" there from Gavin McInness?creepycoug said:
Their founder has certainly danced on the line of white nationalism.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They aren't white supremacist.Houhusky said:
I know very little about the proud boys other than it was founded by former Vice media founder and its now run by a Enrique Tarrio, an AfroCuban guy.creepycoug said:
The worst part about it was that the question was SO OBBIOUSLY canned and served up for him as a test. And while he was in the process of failing the test, the moderator kept nudging him and making it clear that this was a statement question and gave him a couple of chances to get it right and he just kept fucking it up. You could tell the gears were spinning and he made a calculated move. He just calculated badly. Very, very, very badly.thechatch said:I still can’t believe how badly Trump fucked up the condemning hate groups question.
“I condemn racism and hate groups of all kinds, unlike my opponent, who calls black people street predators, and is worried about white kids having to grow up in a racial jungle. My opponent, who supported race riots for months and encouraged domestic terrorists to attack the police and residents of our cities.”
That is low hanging fruit, and Trump fucked up royally with the “stand down and stand by” comment. He basically made himself the commanding officer of the Proud Boys.
We call those unforced errors, imo
I have a sense for the line on which he is dancing. There are plenty of people, both in and outside of his base, who speak plainly and directly about race relations and have politically incorrect views on race according to the left; but those people are not racists. The Tug, for example, is full of those people. I think perhaps Trump and his advisors don't sufficiently appreciate the difference between those people and people like the Proud Boys. If I'm right about that, then that's on him and his people.
In any event, whatever the reason, he wasn't good on his feet on that point and he may have really screwed the pooch. I don't think this one just goes away because of our? short attention span. If I'm on the left, I hammer this point until it's done.
Here the mini Dateline documentary done by Dateline from a couple years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7f4b1o6BKM&app=desktop
Are they actually a white supremacist group or are they just labeled that by the media at large?
The media is lazy and/or disingenuous.
In 2002 he stated that he was glad that Brooklyn hipsters were predominantly white. In a separate interview he said, ''I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of.
“I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life.''
Sounds like OBK if I say so myself.
There are some interesting articles out there about the increased enrollment of afro-hispanics with the organization. Not sure I understand the group entirely myself. I would expect you'd find a decent amount of racist people among their ranks despite the membership of afro-hispanics.
Supposedly there is a video he made, that has since been taken down, entitled "10 Things I hate about the Jews" that he filmed on location in Israel. I couldn't find it or any summary of the content. The OKB quote about "white America" though is out there. There's even a video of him reading his own quote.
I knew nothing about him, but he doesn't seem like a guy who's going to make it to one of Creep's big-time filler-brief-writing corporate lawyer cocktail parties. Seems like a fellow who enjoys fist fighting just a little too much for me.
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Turd, we went down this path with OBK. You were there. When his extreme xenophobia ascribes to an entire ethnic group a inherent tendency toward communism and a bunch of other negative shit and he finally blurts out that having more than reasonable amounts of those people are going to fuck up the culture, we decided he finally showed it and sent it back to the basement for about a year or so before showing up with the new clown show. With this Canadian buffoon, he's laced that "preserve Western culture" schtick with being white. Apparently he was joking. I don't know these people and probably never will. We can just leave it at your last sentence. That's a good place to stop for me.TurdBomber said:
McInnis is an English born Canadian shit-talking provocateur with a terminal case of short man's disease. NOGAF about him and the Proud Boys actually gained notoriety after he left the group.creepycoug said:
Agree with most of that. My jury is still out on Proud Boys. Some interesting stuff out there about why black hispanics have joined and how that works ... kind of.Swaye said:
Public mea culpa. I had believed they were at least passively racist. Got some interesting private comments today and did a little research. They do not appear to be racist upon review. Do they have some members who are probably racist? sure.gifcreepycoug said:
Their founder has certainly danced on the line of white nationalism.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They aren't white supremacist.Houhusky said:
I know very little about the proud boys other than it was founded by former Vice media founder and its now run by a Enrique Tarrio, an AfroCuban guy.creepycoug said:
The worst part about it was that the question was SO OBBIOUSLY canned and served up for him as a test. And while he was in the process of failing the test, the moderator kept nudging him and making it clear that this was a statement question and gave him a couple of chances to get it right and he just kept fucking it up. You could tell the gears were spinning and he made a calculated move. He just calculated badly. Very, very, very badly.thechatch said:I still can’t believe how badly Trump fucked up the condemning hate groups question.
“I condemn racism and hate groups of all kinds, unlike my opponent, who calls black people street predators, and is worried about white kids having to grow up in a racial jungle. My opponent, who supported race riots for months and encouraged domestic terrorists to attack the police and residents of our cities.”
That is low hanging fruit, and Trump fucked up royally with the “stand down and stand by” comment. He basically made himself the commanding officer of the Proud Boys.
We call those unforced errors, imo
I have a sense for the line on which he is dancing. There are plenty of people, both in and outside of his base, who speak plainly and directly about race relations and have politically incorrect views on race according to the left; but those people are not racists. The Tug, for example, is full of those people. I think perhaps Trump and his advisors don't sufficiently appreciate the difference between those people and people like the Proud Boys. If I'm right about that, then that's on him and his people.
In any event, whatever the reason, he wasn't good on his feet on that point and he may have really screwed the pooch. I don't think this one just goes away because of our? short attention span. If I'm on the left, I hammer this point until it's done.
Here the mini Dateline documentary done by Dateline from a couple years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7f4b1o6BKM&app=desktop
Are they actually a white supremacist group or are they just labeled that by the media at large?
The media is lazy and/or disingenuous.
In 2002 he stated that he was glad that Brooklyn hipsters were predominantly white. In a separate interview he said, ''I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of.
“I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life.''
Sounds like OBK if I say so myself.
There are some interesting articles out there about the increased enrollment of afro-hispanics with the organization. Not sure I understand the group entirely myself. I would expect you'd find a decent amount of racist people among their ranks despite the membership of afro-hispanics.
But as an organization, I think there is leftist smear bullshit at work. Trump still could have handled the question better. Does bring up an interesting point though. If you are an organization that espouses violence but are black, it's totally cool. If you are an organization that is far right politically, you are automatically racist and everyone including Wikipedia will label you as racist whether it is true or not.
Pretty cool.
Also a lot of shit out there on the founder, Gavin McInnes, who's had his own radio show and has walked in alt-right circles forever. There's a lot to suggest he's a white nationalist and isn't fond of the Jews. Now, that's the founder and he left in 2018. So there's that. What they really are now is anybody's guess.
Is it racist to support and defend Western Civilization? I don't think so.
Are their racists, sexists, psychos and queers in their ranks? Certainly. Those folks are everywhere these days. -
Lie after lie after lie from The News. Obviously FoxNews has changed and give their hairdo “reporters” a narrative.
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I really just come here for the cuog/bannon back and forth.creepycoug said:
*You're"RaceBannon said:Your lucky I went into carpet laying instead of the Law like my mom wanted
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I like Gavin's "brother" Miles a lot - the PLO loving leftard cuck who's a compilation of pretty much every soy boy on the West Coast
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Derek only has like 2 rules
1. No calls for genocide, etc
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Substitute any one of MI, WI, Arizona, or Georgia, and Ibwas right.thechatch said:Biden team taking a big risk bu agreeing to more debates. That was as good as he’s going to do against Trump. He should hide in his basement and hope the ballot harvesting in Florida and Pennsylvania carry his water.
Trump kicked Biden’s ass in rd 2, so Joe had to lean on dirty ballots.
So far, looks good for him. Our new president is an octogenarian pussy who almost flunked out of law school at Syracuse. Seems bad. Meanwhile, woke millennials and Gen Z(worst generation ever) are celebrating in the streets, because they’re convinced an evil dictator was overthrown, due to their Instagram activism.
What a time to be alive.
Can’t wait to see what kind of bullshit goes down in Georgia over the next two months. -
If the establishment fix was in, they’ll let GOP have the senate.thechatch said:
Substitute any one of MI, WI, Arizona, or Georgia, and Ibwas right.thechatch said:Biden team taking a big risk bu agreeing to more debates. That was as good as he’s going to do against Trump. He should hide in his basement and hope the ballot harvesting in Florida and Pennsylvania carry his water.
Trump kicked Biden’s ass in rd 2, so Joe had to lean on dirty ballots.
So far, looks good for him. Our new president is an octogenarian pussy who almost flunked out of law school at Syracuse. Seems bad. Meanwhile, woke millennials and Gen Z(worst generation ever) are celebrating in the streets, because they’re convinced an evil dictator was overthrown, due to their Instagram activism.
What a time to be alive.
Can’t wait to see what kind of bullshit goes down in Georgia over the next two months.
They want everyone to calm the fuck down so they can get back to grifting -
Nah the DNC is already recruiting out of state people to come in and help “get out the vote”.
Major boots on the ground headed to GA mid-sized cities like Athens, Macon, Savannah, and Columbus. Dems will control both chambers of congress and the WH. I tried to warn you guys what was coming; a political revenge ass-fucking of the highest order.
Schumer gets to go back to sucking wall st dick and Nancy gets to focus her attention on any one of the 30-something squad members that are gunning for her speakership. Biden sits and pees in the corner while Queen Kamala shouts “who’s in the jungle now, Joe?!”
Crenshaw/Harris 2024 -
I don’t think that’s the plan, but the progressives could fuck it upthechatch said:Nah the DNC is already recruiting out of state people to come in and help “get out the vote”.
Major boots on the ground headed to GA mid-sized cities like Athens, Macon, Savannah, and Columbus. Dems will control both chambers of congress and the WH. I tried to warn you guys what was coming; a political revenge ass-fucking of the highest order.
Schumer gets to go back to sucking wall st dick and Nancy gets to focus her attention on any one of the 30-something squad members that are gunning for her speakership. Biden sits and pees in the corner while Queen Kamala shouts “who’s in the jungle now, Joe?!”
Crenshaw/Harris 2024 -
The proper method of judgment is of behavior, whether individually or as a group. By that measure, how awful are the PBs compared to dozens of high profile Leftist or Anarchist groups?creepycoug said:
Yeah, I already said that Duck.NorthwestFresh said:
McIness is no longer a part of the group. What’s your point? The group now is clearly integrated and their leader is a Black* Cubano.creepycoug said:
Yes.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Didn't watch/didn't read, but is the "founder's quote" there from Gavin McInness?creepycoug said:
Their founder has certainly danced on the line of white nationalism.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
They aren't white supremacist.Houhusky said:
I know very little about the proud boys other than it was founded by former Vice media founder and its now run by a Enrique Tarrio, an AfroCuban guy.creepycoug said:
The worst part about it was that the question was SO OBBIOUSLY canned and served up for him as a test. And while he was in the process of failing the test, the moderator kept nudging him and making it clear that this was a statement question and gave him a couple of chances to get it right and he just kept fucking it up. You could tell the gears were spinning and he made a calculated move. He just calculated badly. Very, very, very badly.thechatch said:I still can’t believe how badly Trump fucked up the condemning hate groups question.
“I condemn racism and hate groups of all kinds, unlike my opponent, who calls black people street predators, and is worried about white kids having to grow up in a racial jungle. My opponent, who supported race riots for months and encouraged domestic terrorists to attack the police and residents of our cities.”
That is low hanging fruit, and Trump fucked up royally with the “stand down and stand by” comment. He basically made himself the commanding officer of the Proud Boys.
We call those unforced errors, imo
I have a sense for the line on which he is dancing. There are plenty of people, both in and outside of his base, who speak plainly and directly about race relations and have politically incorrect views on race according to the left; but those people are not racists. The Tug, for example, is full of those people. I think perhaps Trump and his advisors don't sufficiently appreciate the difference between those people and people like the Proud Boys. If I'm right about that, then that's on him and his people.
In any event, whatever the reason, he wasn't good on his feet on that point and he may have really screwed the pooch. I don't think this one just goes away because of our? short attention span. If I'm on the left, I hammer this point until it's done.
Here the mini Dateline documentary done by Dateline from a couple years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7f4b1o6BKM&app=desktop
Are they actually a white supremacist group or are they just labeled that by the media at large?
The media is lazy and/or disingenuous.
In 2002 he stated that he was glad that Brooklyn hipsters were predominantly white. In a separate interview he said, ''I love being white and I think it's something to be very proud of.
“I don't want our culture diluted. We need to close the borders now and let everyone assimilate to a Western, white, English-speaking way of life.''
Sounds like OBK if I say so myself.
There are some interesting articles out there about the increased enrollment of afro-hispanics with the organization. Not sure I understand the group entirely myself. I would expect you'd find a decent amount of racist people among their ranks despite the membership of afro-hispanics.
The Democrats were originally founded by slave owners and were segregationists into the 1970s. Joe Biden was pro-segregation as recently as 1977. They filibustered the Civil Rights Act.
Does the mean every Democrat today believes in racism and Jim Crow?
And we know how you feel about the Dixiecrats and partyswitch theory, so not a great comparison to make a point. And McInnes left in late 2018, so yeah, he been gone long tim.
Nobody said everybody in PB was anything. You made that up.
My point was that it was founded by a racist and anti-semitic kook who only left the group to help some of his bros beat the rap. Did I write too many words again?
And the larger question is this: Why do they get so much attention from the Left and the MSM? Could it be that the demand for hate crimes and such far outstrips the supply?
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Oh screw EB White and his Elements of Style!creepycoug said:
*You're"RaceBannon said:Your lucky I went into carpet laying instead of the Law like my mom wanted
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As OBK says, Trumps re-election has been assured.
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You mixed up Gorsuch with Roberts. Roberts is a closet Dem.doogie said:As OBK says, Trumps re-election has been assured.
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All three of these were GWB nominees to Court of Appeals.
Roberts votes how he’s told.
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You did call this. I remember.thechatch said:
Substitute any one of MI, WI, Arizona, or Georgia, and Ibwas right.thechatch said:Biden team taking a big risk bu agreeing to more debates. That was as good as he’s going to do against Trump. He should hide in his basement and hope the ballot harvesting in Florida and Pennsylvania carry his water.
Trump kicked Biden’s ass in rd 2, so Joe had to lean on dirty ballots.
So far, looks good for him. Our new president is an octogenarian pussy who almost flunked out of law school at Syracuse. Seems bad. Meanwhile, woke millennials and Gen Z(worst generation ever) are celebrating in the streets, because they’re convinced an evil dictator was overthrown, due to their Instagram activism.
What a time to be alive.
Can’t wait to see what kind of bullshit goes down in Georgia over the next two months.
