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Systemic racism
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I have a 19 year old black son that is about 6'2'' and 215 pounds. I've seen the reaction he gets from some people when we're out in public. He has actually told me about how his presence can intimidate some white people.GreenRiverGatorz said:
That, and a laundry list of other factors. Anyone telling you it's one thing and not the other is either uninformed or dishonest. If it could fit on a Herman Cain pizza box it'd be fixed by now.SFGbob said:Could it be that the crime rate and affirmative action have anything to do with any of those feelings?
At the end of the day, these are unique problems that a large number of black teenagers (and adults) have to deal with, through no fault of their own. And that's tragic.
But I've also dealt with white teachers who have held him to lower academic and behavioral standards also because of his black skin. -
Have a "Rock You Like A Herman Cain" campaign shirt, then pop off.GreenRiverGatorz said:
That, and a laundry list of other factors. Anyone telling you it's one thing and not the other is either uninformed or dishonest. If it could fit on a Herman Cain pizza box it'd be fixed by now.SFGbob said:Could it be that the crime rate and affirmative action have anything to do with any of those feelings?
At the end of the day, these are unique problems that a large number of black teenagers (and adults) have to deal with, through no fault of their own. And that's tragic. -
Here is some more systemic racism. I blame white republicans. This is where I have trouble with the people who tell me Black Lives Matter. They are pretty damn selective about which black lives matter. Great last weekend in Chicago.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weekend-shootings-most-violent-weekend-2020-may-29-june-1
Nineteen people were killed and at least 63 others were wounded by gun violence in Chicago’s most violent weekend of the year so far, which also saw widespread protests, riots and looting throughout the city in the wake of the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd.
More than half of the weekend’s victims were shot on Sunday as the city reeled from violent protests Saturday night that led to hundreds of arrests and the implementation of a curfew.
The weekend’s toll surpasses the tally from the same weekend in 2019, when 52 people were wounded — 8 fatally — in citywide gun violence. -
And those white teachers did him no favors.SFGbob said:
I have a 19 year old black son that is about 6'2'' and 215 pounds. I've seen the reaction he gets from some people when we're out in public. He has actually told me about how his presence can intimidate some white people.GreenRiverGatorz said:
That, and a laundry list of other factors. Anyone telling you it's one thing and not the other is either uninformed or dishonest. If it could fit on a Herman Cain pizza box it'd be fixed by now.SFGbob said:Could it be that the crime rate and affirmative action have anything to do with any of those feelings?
At the end of the day, these are unique problems that a large number of black teenagers (and adults) have to deal with, through no fault of their own. And that's tragic.
But I've also dealt with white teachers who have held him to lower academic and behavioral standards also because of his black skin. -
Well he told you how. You're free to not believe him.WestlinnDuck said:So, if your store was having a shoplifting problem that was caused by young black men, is your following a young black man systemic racism? You know who plays the knockout game? I'd be watchful around young black men on a public street. A young black recruit at a Pac 12 school has a lot going for him. Tough to see how systemic racism has hurt him.
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Thats a good thing and at least addressing getting people out, but if its based on the original sentence there is still some built in disparity. Prison profiteering and corrupt judges are going to keep it all going.MikeDamone said:
Seems like that's starting to be addressed finally.WilburHooksHands said:Mass incarceration and disproportionately severe sentencing is a good example of systematic racism. The “criminal justice system,” as absolutely everyone refers to it by, is a prime example.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/3100-inmates-to-be-released-as-trump-administration-implements-criminal-justice-reform/2019/07/19/7ed0daf6-a9a4-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html?outputType=amp
Biden and Clinton did a lot of damage with the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that is taking a while to undo. -
I believe Savy. But the same genetics that gave him Black skin and the problems he described also gave him rare size and athletic talent that combined with his hard work gives him unlimited opportunity going forward.
Would he trade with a 5 foot 10 130 high school senior who is white?
I agree we try too many one size fits all fixes. Zero tolerance is lazy and stupid. Make calls based on the individual.
America actually discusses race quite a bit. Since I was a youngin. Sometimes its honest sometimes it is not. It is still tough to be a young black male and its better than ever. Everyone is a victim of something or they choose to be a victor. That crosses all races. -
No it's the right! They did it all!!!!!!!MikeDamone said:
Seems like that's starting to be addressed finally.WilburHooksHands said:Mass incarceration and disproportionately severe sentencing is a good example of systematic racism. The “criminal justice system,” as absolutely everyone refers to it by, is a prime example.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/3100-inmates-to-be-released-as-trump-administration-implements-criminal-justice-reform/2019/07/19/7ed0daf6-a9a4-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html?outputType=amp
Biden and Clinton did a lot of damage with the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that is taking a while to undo.
That and America has never had a black president because racism!!!!!!!!! -
I said it's a good start. The work is ongoing. That's almost 30 years of a bad law to unpack. But it's being addressed. It does morR than just get people out. How do most people not know about this bill?WilburHooksHands said:
Thats a good thing and at least addressing getting people out, but if its based on the original sentence there is still some built in disparity. Prison profiteering and corrupt judges are going to keep it all going.MikeDamone said:
Seems like that's starting to be addressed finally.WilburHooksHands said:Mass incarceration and disproportionately severe sentencing is a good example of systematic racism. The “criminal justice system,” as absolutely everyone refers to it by, is a prime example.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/3100-inmates-to-be-released-as-trump-administration-implements-criminal-justice-reform/2019/07/19/7ed0daf6-a9a4-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html?outputType=amp
Biden and Clinton did a lot of damage with the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that is taking a while to undo.
What the First Step Act does
Here are the major provisions of the
First Step Act:
The bill would make retroactive the reforms enacted by the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010, which reduced the disparity between crack and powder cocaine sentences at the federal level. This could affect nearly 2,600 federal inmates, according to the Marshall Project.
The bill would take several steps to ease mandatory minimum sentences under federal law. It would expand the “safety valve” that judges can use to avoid handing down mandatory minimum sentences. It would ease a “three strikes” rule so people with three or more convictions, including for drug offenses, automatically get 25 years instead of life, among other changes. It would restrict the current practice of stacking gun charges against drug offenders to add possibly decades to prison sentences. All of these changes would lead to shorter prison sentences in the future.
The bill would increase “good time credits” that inmates can earn. Inmates who avoid a disciplinary record can currently get credits of up to 47 days per year incarcerated. The bill increases the cap to 54, allowing well-behaved inmates to cut their prison sentence by an additional week for each year they’re incarcerated. The change applies retroactively, which could allow some prisoners — as many as 4,000 — to qualify for release the day that the bill goes into effect.
The bill would allow inmates to get “earned time credits” by participating in more vocational and rehabilitative programs. Those credits would allow them to be released early to halfway houses or home confinement. Not only could this mitigate prison overcrowding, but the hope is that the education programs will reduce the likelihood that an inmate will commit another crime once released and, as a result, reduce both crime and incarceration in the long term. (There’s research showing that education programs do reduce recidivism.)
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Blacks commit way over 40 perent of crime. I think it might be low 50s. I don't have time to look it up. I suppose it's somehow white people's fault though. Oppression and shit.WilburHooksHands said:Mass incarceration and disproportionately severe sentencing is a good example of systematic racism. The “criminal justice system,” as absolutely everyone refers to it by, is a prime example.
