Systemic racism
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Well, it doesn't. Neighborhood was suffering thefts and break-ins. You think it was the retired Jewish folks or primarily young black males. In this case, Trayvon was an unstable thief. It bothers me that anyone would want to beat up the neighborhood watch guy. Tough to watch from your basement. Zimmerman had no prior evidence of being racially biased.
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Well he was an Obama supporter. Could have been possible that he hated whitey.WestlinnDuck said:Well, it doesn't. Neighborhood was suffering thefts and break-ins. You think it was the retired Jewish folks or primarily young black males. In this case, Trayvon was an unstable thief. It bothers me that anyone would want to beat up the neighborhood watch guy. Tough to watch from your basement. Zimmerman had no prior evidence of being racially biased.
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Anyone on these boreds would've handled the situation better than Zimmerman. Zimmerman was a social retard, with a gun, complete inept at his volunteer job and lacked any and all social skills for dealing with the situation at hand. Ignorant Prejudiced Racist Goon though he was, his communication skills obviously sucked ass to the point he couldn't even converse with Martin, but instead creepily followed him around without saying a word. Who on these boreds wouldn't have said, "Hey. Where you headed?" Or "Hey, do you live here?" Not Zimmerman, because he was a fucking retard. With a gun. And that's why Retards shouldn't have Guns.
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We're in the making shit up and pulling it out of your ass phase of this conversation.TurdBomber said:Anyone on these boreds would've handled the situation better than Zimmerman. Zimmerman was a social retard, with a gun, complete inept at his volunteer job and lacked any and all social skills for dealing with the situation at hand. Ignorant Prejudiced Racist Goon though he was, his communication skills obviously sucked ass to the point he couldn't even converse with Martin, but instead creepily followed him around without saying a word. Who on these boreds wouldn't have said, "Hey. Where you headed?" Or "Hey, do you live here?" Not Zimmerman, because he was a fucking retard. With a gun. And that's why Retards shouldn't have Guns.
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So, heavy breathing. Everything else follows I guess. Got it.SFGbob said:
I've never cited Martin's teenage run ins with authority to not give him the benefit of the doubt but I hope that strawman's asshole was nice and tight for ya.creepycoug said:
How do we know this? Do we know where he was positioned when he 'broke off'? I've never read anything in this case supporting that version of the story. My understanding was that the eye witnesses (both the made-up and real ones) came upon the scene after hearing the struggle, and only then showed up and thus only able to say what happened at that point, which was the end. I don't recall any version of the incident involving an eye witness that watched Zimmerman make the call, follow, and then "break off". That all happened in the dark. Maybe Martin went after a stationary George who had "broken off" as you say. Maybe he was hiding and jumped George, which would suggest George kept going "somewhere". Maybe George followed him all the way to the scene of the fight. The latter is the most probable unless somebody, other than impugned-credibility George, testified otherwise. It's not a rhetorical question: what is the evidence, other than what Zimmerman said, that establishes that Zimmerman broke off his chase? And his "Ok" on the call transcript isn't sufficient.SFGbob said:
Non-emergency phone operator isn't the "cops" and doesn't have the authority of the "cops" which was the reason why you brought it up in the first place. You also conveniently omit that Zimmerman did stop running after Trademark after the phone call. How many times would you allow me to smash your head against the sidewalk before you responded with lethal force?TurdBomber said:
Dispatcher works for and in tandem with, the cops, Ass-Hair-Splitter.SFGbob said:
Dispatcher isn't a cop. The "cops" never told him to do shit. And he actually did "break off" after the "cop" told him he didn't need to follow.TurdBomber said:Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Okay.
Then keeps following him.
Call Transcript. Facts Bobby. Not Bullshit.
Is it bullshit that Zimmerman is a fucking loser lunatic? Difference of opinions? Maybe. Bullshit? Uh, no.
You're pulling claims out of your ass.
Zimmerman provoked the entire thing. I'd have wanted to kick that pudgy faggots ass, too.
The thing that has bothered me about your take, and the take of a few others, is that you gratuitously point out Martin's teen-age run-ins with authority as reason to not give him the benefit of the doubt. But you don't seem to ever question Zimmerman, who himself was a giant lying POS as an adult, as demonstrated before, during and after the incident.
On the phone call to the "police" who never ordered him to stop pursing Trademark you can hear George breathing heavy as he runs after the young astronaut wannabe. During that same phone call, George stops running and his breathing returns to normal. He had already "broken off" the chase when Trademark sucker punched him. Which we all now know is cool as long as you're skeeeered. -
What am I "making up" Bob?SFGbob said:
We're in the making shit up and pulling it out of your ass phase of this conversation.TurdBomber said:Anyone on these boreds would've handled the situation better than Zimmerman. Zimmerman was a social retard, with a gun, complete inept at his volunteer job and lacked any and all social skills for dealing with the situation at hand. Ignorant Prejudiced Racist Goon though he was, his communication skills obviously sucked ass to the point he couldn't even converse with Martin, but instead creepily followed him around without saying a word. Who on these boreds wouldn't have said, "Hey. Where you headed?" Or "Hey, do you live here?" Not Zimmerman, because he was a fucking retard. With a gun. And that's why Retards shouldn't have Guns.
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Everything, all if it is just your baseless opinion, many of which are contrary to established fact. It's pointless continuing this, you're emoting you're not arguing.
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Bob: Is it a new idea to you that people don't like being followed? That it makes them anxious? Nervous? Feel unsafe or threatened? Increasingly so the longer it goes on, in time and distance?
Ever heard of the internal "fight or flight" mechanism? Ever heard or read anything about it? Ever heard why these conflicts occur near a person's home but not in the driveway or in front of the home because people don't want stalkers to know exactly where they live?
Are you this New to life, Bob? -
So you got nothing. Zip. Zilch. As expected.SFGbob said:Everything, all if it is just your baseless opinion, many of which are contrary to established fact. It's pointless continuing this, you're emoting you're not arguing.
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Yes, yes he was so skeered that instead of returning to the house where he was staying, which he was only a few feet away from, long after he lost Zimmerman, he returned in the direction in which he last saw Zimmerman and sucker punched him, breaking his nose and knocking him to the ground, but it's okay because he was skeeered. And then he was so afraid that he got on top of Zimmerman while he was on the ground and proceeded to go "MMA style" on him and smash his head into the sidewalk repeatedly.TurdBomber said:Bob: Is it a new idea to you that people don't like being followed? That it makes them anxious? Nervous? Feel unsafe or threatened? Increasingly so the longer it goes on, in time and distance?
Ever heard of the internal "fight or flight" mechanism? Ever heard or read anything about it? Ever heard why these conflicts occur near a person's home but not in the driveway or in front of the home because people don't want stalkers to know exactly where they live?
Are you this New to life, Bob?
Which again is perfectly cool if your skeered. -
You've not cited a single fact. In fact, nearly everything you've said has either been baseless opinion, what you "feel" might have happened, and statements that are directly contradicted by the established facts.TurdBomber said:
So you got nothing. Zip. Zilch. As expected.SFGbob said:Everything, all if it is just your baseless opinion, many of which are contrary to established fact. It's pointless continuing this, you're emoting you're not arguing.
Who's emoting, Bob? Run away now.
I know you don't give a fuck. You have really, really strong feelings about this, and that's what is important. -
Right Bob. Who would ever be "skeered" of some stranger following them in a car then chasing them on foot for no reason? Who would be "skeered" of that, Bob? Again, perfectly normal behavior by Zimmerman.
Still waiting to hear what I'm "making up," Bob. Gonna answer? Or Chicken out? -
Bob. Bobby. Bobster. Bubbly Bobby. Yo, Bob: How about just answering the question you've ducked for what, 15 minutes now?
What am I making up, Bob? Since you're the authority on all things "Trademark," I'd really like to know what I've "made up." -
What's the over and under on the number of times I can get on top of you and smash your head into the sidewalk? 2, 3, 4, 5 times?TurdBomber said:Right Bob. Who would ever be "skeered" of some stranger following them in a car then chasing them on foot for no reason? Who would be "skeered" of that, Bob? Again, perfectly normal behavior by Zimmerman.
Still waiting to hear what I'm "making up," Bob. Gonna answer? Or Chicken out?
I'll make it easier for you list for me the claims you've made that aren't entirely based upon your opinion or what you "feel" Trademark was thinking or what you "feel" Zimmerman was doing. -
You fight like a Girl.SFGbob said:
What's the over and under on the number of times I can get on top of you and smash your head into the sidewalk? 2, 3, 4, 5 times?TurdBomber said:Right Bob. Who would ever be "skeered" of some stranger following them in a car then chasing them on foot for no reason? Who would be "skeered" of that, Bob? Again, perfectly normal behavior by Zimmerman.
Still waiting to hear what I'm "making up," Bob. Gonna answer? Or Chicken out?
I'll make it easier for you list for me the claims you've made that aren't entirely based upon your opinion or what you "feel" Trademark was thinking or what you "feel" Zimmerman was doing. -
Shocking, he dodged the questions.TurdBomber said:
You fight like a Girl.SFGbob said:
What's the over and under on the number of times I can get on top of you and smash your head into the sidewalk? 2, 3, 4, 5 times?TurdBomber said:Right Bob. Who would ever be "skeered" of some stranger following them in a car then chasing them on foot for no reason? Who would be "skeered" of that, Bob? Again, perfectly normal behavior by Zimmerman.
Still waiting to hear what I'm "making up," Bob. Gonna answer? Or Chicken out?
I'll make it easier for you list for me the claims you've made that aren't entirely based upon your opinion or what you "feel" Trademark was thinking or what you "feel" Zimmerman was doing. -
I fucking love assholes like @SFGBob who take these hard positions on "facts" then wither and wimp out when asked to present any of their own.
Hilarious and Pathetic at the same time.
Keep enjoying life, @SFGBob. You should go fishing with fishboy @dflea and I'll host a betting pool of who goes into the water first. -
And this, right here, ladies and gentlemen, is called "Projection." (And Hypocrisy, but pay no mind to that.)SFGbob said:
Shocking, he dodged the questions.TurdBomber said:
You fight like a Girl.SFGbob said:
What's the over and under on the number of times I can get on top of you and smash your head into the sidewalk? 2, 3, 4, 5 times?TurdBomber said:Right Bob. Who would ever be "skeered" of some stranger following them in a car then chasing them on foot for no reason? Who would be "skeered" of that, Bob? Again, perfectly normal behavior by Zimmerman.
Still waiting to hear what I'm "making up," Bob. Gonna answer? Or Chicken out?
I'll make it easier for you list for me the claims you've made that aren't entirely based upon your opinion or what you "feel" Trademark was thinking or what you "feel" Zimmerman was doing.
Thank you for that stunningly awesome example, @SFGBob.
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I've presented a number of facts and I've directly refuted multiple claims of pure bullshit that you've stated. Fuck off. Just because you ignore them doesn't mean it didn't happen.TurdBomber said:I fucking love assholes like @SFGBob who take these hard positions on "facts" then wither and wimp out when asked to present any of their own.
Hilarious and Pathetic at the same time.
Keep enjoying life, @SFGBob. You should go fishing with fishboy @dflea and I'll host a betting pool of who goes into the water first.
Question still stands. Cite for me a single claim you made that is anything other than your feelings or your opinion. -
No fucking way I'm reading through this entire thread.
Black people get pulled over for doing nothing wrong far more often than white people do.
Black people get followed far more often than white people do.
Black people get watched far more closely than white people do.
Black people get charged more quickly and sentenced more harshly than white people do.
Not every time. Not every situation. It doesn't mean nothing bad ever happens to white people.
But by and large, as a whole, when speaking in generalities the system is skewed against black people.
Here in Memphis I know of multiple business who flat out will not even interview a black person for a job.
In the last decade I've sat down with a number of black and mixed friends, people who are educated, people who are upstanding members of society, people who by and large don't even vote blue, and asked them for their personal experiences with law enforcement and the justice system.
It's ugly. UGLY.
Some of that is because the part of the country that I live in.
Some of it is because the superiority of white people has been ingrained into a lot of our systems nationwide.
I would encourage anyone who legitimately cares to have these same types of conversations with those you know who fit these descriptions. Don't talk, just listen. Save your personal opinion for a little and just hear them out.
And if you don't know anyone who fits that description, that should tell you a whole lot about yourself.
There is progress and things are getting better. As Will Smith said racism isn't getting worse, it's just getting filmed.
We are moving in the right direction.
We still have a long ass way to go.
Sincerely,
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You're really confused Bob. You've cited irrelevant facts that don't even approach contradicting anything I've stated, theorized about, given a real or hypothetical example of, or anything. See, Bobby, it goes like this: If I state a "fact" and get it wrong, then you can "correct" that with another "fact" that's actually established or proven. But, BobbyBoy, you haven't done that. I didn't say fuck all about Zimmerman's head, but you played the little game of inapposites where you say, "The Capital of Oregon is Salem, and therefore Texas is the smallest state in the Union." Um, gee, Bob, that's a big No-no, factually speaking, because the Capital or Oregon has no bearing on the size of Texas. But irrelevancy seems to be your strength, BobbyBoy, so carry on.SFGbob said:
I've presented a number of facts and I've directly refuted multiple claims of pure bullshit that you've stated. Fuck off. Just because you ignore them doesn't mean it didn't happen.TurdBomber said:I fucking love assholes like @SFGBob who take these hard positions on "facts" then wither and wimp out when asked to present any of their own.
Hilarious and Pathetic at the same time.
Keep enjoying life, @SFGBob. You should go fishing with fishboy @dflea and I'll host a betting pool of who goes into the water first.
Question still stands. Cite for me a single claim you made that is anything other than your feelings or your opinion. -
Jesus, BobbyBoy: You're in @GDS Territory here. Trust me. You don't want to be there, unless you like being speed-bagged and tea-bagged like I've done to @GDS for 7 months straight.SFGbob said:
I've presented a number of facts and I've directly refuted multiple claims of pure bullshit that you've stated. Fuck off. Just because you ignore them doesn't mean it didn't happen.TurdBomber said:I fucking love assholes like @SFGBob who take these hard positions on "facts" then wither and wimp out when asked to present any of their own.
Hilarious and Pathetic at the same time.
Keep enjoying life, @SFGBob. You should go fishing with fishboy @dflea and I'll host a betting pool of who goes into the water first.
Question still stands. Cite for me a single claim you made that is anything other than your feelings or your opinion. -
Still can't cite a single thing you claimed that wasn't based entirely on your feelings. Sad.TurdBomber said:
You're really confused Bob. You've cited irrelevant facts that don't even approach contradicting anything I've stated, theorized about, given a real or hypothetical example of, or anything. See, Bobby, it goes like this: If I state a "fact" and get it wrong, then you can "correct" that with another "fact" that's actually established or proven. But, BobbyBoy, you haven't done that. I didn't say fuck all about Zimmerman's head, but you played the little game of inapposites where you say, "The Capital of Oregon is Salem, and therefore Texas is the smallest state in the Union." Um, gee, Bob, that's a big No-no, factually speaking, because the Capital or Oregon has no bearing on the size of Texas. But irrelevancy seems to be your strength, BobbyBoy, so carry on.SFGbob said:
I've presented a number of facts and I've directly refuted multiple claims of pure bullshit that you've stated. Fuck off. Just because you ignore them doesn't mean it didn't happen.TurdBomber said:I fucking love assholes like @SFGBob who take these hard positions on "facts" then wither and wimp out when asked to present any of their own.
Hilarious and Pathetic at the same time.
Keep enjoying life, @SFGBob. You should go fishing with fishboy @dflea and I'll host a betting pool of who goes into the water first.
Question still stands. Cite for me a single claim you made that is anything other than your feelings or your opinion. -
I asked you first, BobbyBoy. And I'm still waiting. Will it be 7 months or more, like with @GDS?SFGbob said:
Still can't cite a single thing you claimed that wasn't based entirely on your feelings. Sad.TurdBomber said:
You're really confused Bob. You've cited irrelevant facts that don't even approach contradicting anything I've stated, theorized about, given a real or hypothetical example of, or anything. See, Bobby, it goes like this: If I state a "fact" and get it wrong, then you can "correct" that with another "fact" that's actually established or proven. But, BobbyBoy, you haven't done that. I didn't say fuck all about Zimmerman's head, but you played the little game of inapposites where you say, "The Capital of Oregon is Salem, and therefore Texas is the smallest state in the Union." Um, gee, Bob, that's a big No-no, factually speaking, because the Capital or Oregon has no bearing on the size of Texas. But irrelevancy seems to be your strength, BobbyBoy, so carry on.SFGbob said:
I've presented a number of facts and I've directly refuted multiple claims of pure bullshit that you've stated. Fuck off. Just because you ignore them doesn't mean it didn't happen.TurdBomber said:I fucking love assholes like @SFGBob who take these hard positions on "facts" then wither and wimp out when asked to present any of their own.
Hilarious and Pathetic at the same time.
Keep enjoying life, @SFGBob. You should go fishing with fishboy @dflea and I'll host a betting pool of who goes into the water first.
Question still stands. Cite for me a single claim you made that is anything other than your feelings or your opinion.
