The whys and how’s of scattering used needles or shitting on the sidewalk don’t merit debate. But there’s always some enabling dunce who’ll pick up the shitters’ cause anyway, and they are why West Coast cities suck now.
The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure
Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist
Nor do they need enablers like you
My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.
Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
Congrats @HHusky. You’ve successfully fagged out another thread with SJW Bullshit. Take a bow.
SJW? It’s a fucking cost saving argument. Addicts gonna addict unless they get help. If they get HIV or hepatitis first, it’s a costlier problem than cleaning the streets. It’s not even debatable.
The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure
Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist
Nor do they need enablers like you
My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.
Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
Addicts are going to addicts even if they get help and you want to know what increases the number of addicts? Giving them free access to open shooting galleries where they know they won't be arrested. Providing them with "free" needles and refusing to prosecute them for the crimes they commit in order to feed their habits. San Francisco has all but rolled out the red carpet the drug addicts. They know here they are safe and won't face much hassle from the police and they'll receive about $500 a month in cash from the county not to mention food stamps that they'll sell. And shockingly, the number of addicts and other assorted dirt-bags has exploded in the city.
San Francisco — where drug addicts outnumber high school students
Addicts are going to addicts even if they get help and you want to know what increases the number of addicts? Giving them free access to open shooting galleries where they know they won't be arrested. Providing them with "free" needles and refusing to prosecute them for the crimes they commit in order to feed their habits. San Francisco has all but rolled out the red carpet the drug addicts. They know here they are safe and won't face much hassle from the police and they'll receive about $500 a month in cash from the county not to mention food stamps that they'll sell. And shockingly, the number of addicts and other assorted dirt-bags has exploded in the city.
San Francisco — where drug addicts outnumber high school students
Addicts are going to addicts even if they get help and you want to know what increases the number of addicts? Giving them free access to open shooting galleries where they know they won't be arrested. Providing them with "free" needles and refusing to prosecute them for the crimes they commit in order to feed their habits. San Francisco has all but rolled out the red carpet the drug addicts. They know here they are safe and won't face much hassle from the police and they'll receive about $500 a month in cash from the county not to mention food stamps that they'll sell. And shockingly, the number of addicts and other assorted dirt-bags has exploded in the city.
San Francisco — where drug addicts outnumber high school students
imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!
Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?
Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
Always with the bullshit excuses for a lack of personal responsibility. Weird how I never used any opiates. I could be one of those easily addicted people but I'll never find out because I never used them.
Lucky you. I’ve had surgery. I’ve had opiates. I’m just not afflicted with the predisposition to be addicted to them.
They gave me the strongest opiates available for my sports injury and surgery. My addiction to alcohol saved me from being a junkie. I wanted beer more than pills.
Congrats @HHusky. You’ve successfully fagged out another thread with SJW Bullshit. Take a bow.
SJW? It’s a fucking cost saving argument. Addicts gonna addict unless they get help. If they get HIV or hepatitis first, it’s a costlier problem than cleaning the streets. It’s not even debatable.
No costs saved. They get every disease known to man. Nothing like large open puss oozing sores. Hep A thru Z etc. Maybe you don't realize these people aren't very smart to begin with and a fried brain doesn't help. They'll still use dirty shit and still get sick.
Hell they spend most of their life just trying to take a shit.
Congrats @HHusky. You’ve successfully fagged out another thread with SJW Bullshit. Take a bow.
SJW? It’s a fucking cost saving argument. Addicts gonna addict unless they get help. If they get HIV or hepatitis first, it’s a costlier problem than cleaning the streets. It’s not even debatable.
No costs saved. They get every disease known to man. Nothing like large open puss oozing sores. Hep A thru Z etc. Maybe you don't realize these people aren't very smart to begin with and a fried brain doesn't help. They'll still use dirty shit and still get sick.
Hell they spend most of their life just trying to take a shit.
Truth. I couldn’t shit for almost two weeks on the heavy duty hydromorphine opioids.
Congrats @HHusky. You’ve successfully fagged out another thread with SJW Bullshit. Take a bow.
SJW? It’s a fucking cost saving argument. Addicts gonna addict unless they get help. If they get HIV or hepatitis first, it’s a costlier problem than cleaning the streets. It’s not even debatable.
No costs saved. They get every disease known to man. Nothing like large open puss oozing sores. Hep A thru Z etc. Maybe you don't realize these people aren't very smart to begin with and a fried brain doesn't help. They'll still use dirty shit and still get sick.
Hell they spend most of their life just trying to take a shit.
Truth. I couldn’t shit for almost two weeks on the heavy duty hydromorphine opioids.
Why do you think they cut it with baby laxative? It doesn't seem to help.
Congrats @HHusky. You’ve successfully fagged out another thread with SJW Bullshit. Take a bow.
SJW? It’s a fucking cost saving argument. Addicts gonna addict unless they get help. If they get HIV or hepatitis first, it’s a costlier problem than cleaning the streets. It’s not even debatable.
Horseshit. Per capita costs are bullshit when the number of addicts has quintupled in a given area, with the costs born by the taxpayers throughout an entire area. Fuck off with that 1st grade analysis, pea-brain.
Add in the lost business and tax revenue in a retail and restaurant core that nobody patronizes anymore because of the overwhelming presence of sidewalk-shitting addicts, and you’re talking millions of dollars per month in revenue losses. Fuck Off Twice, you ignoramus.
Add in the lost business and tax revenue in a retail and restaurant core that nobody patronizes anymore because of the overwhelming presence of sidewalk-shitting addicts, and you’re talking millions of dollars per month in revenue losses. Fuck Off Twice, you ignoramus.
Tax revenue thought experiment: do people headed out to dinner who decide not to go to a restaurant in a particular location simply decide to stay home and spend no money instead?
If you want to sympathize with business owners affected, I'm with you, but your claims about tax revenues are a little ridiculous.
Needle exchanges save money overall and prevent epidemics. The Veep finally relented in Indiana, though his considerable, evidence free delay is blamed for a lot of deaths.
Even things that work can be improved. But you and blob are on the wrong side of this. Race is going to shoot up regardless. Do you really want him contracting HIV as a consequence?
Add in the lost business and tax revenue in a retail and restaurant core that nobody patronizes anymore because of the overwhelming presence of sidewalk-shitting addicts, and you’re talking millions of dollars per month in revenue losses. Fuck Off Twice, you ignoramus.
Tax revenue thought experiment: do people headed out to dinner who decide not to go to a restaurant in a particular location simply decide to stay home and spend no money instead?
If you want to sympathize with business owners affected, I'm with you, but your claims about tax revenues are a little ridiculous.
Needle exchanges save money overall and prevent epidemics. The Veep finally relented in Indiana, though his considerable, evidence free delay is blamed for a lot of deaths.
Even things that work can be improved. But you and blob are on the wrong side of this. Race is going to shoot up regardless. Do you really want him contracting HIV as a consequence?
Look, you lefties want to keep riding the free needles is good bullshit, go ahead. It's not - you're enabling lawless behavior. But for the sake of argument, let's play that it's a "good" thing.
If you're going to die on that sword, at least has the common sense to put the free needles where the rest of us law-abiding citizens can enjoy our law-abiding lives in peace without constantly getting fucked with by your 'must-have-free-needles to avoid the FBA" crowd shitting on the sidewalks, passing out in front of businesses and otherwise turning decent places into shitholes.
Fence off a designated area, pass out the free needles and let them shoot the fuck up all they want. Cordone off the lawless zone and don't let them out. Like taking away teenagers car keys at a house kegger so they don't hurt themselves or others.
Instead you want the zombies to roam around disrupting civilized society. Fuck that.
Addicts are going to addicts even if they get help and you want to know what increases the number of addicts? Giving them free access to open shooting galleries where they know they won't be arrested. Providing them with "free" needles and refusing to prosecute them for the crimes they commit in order to feed their habits. San Francisco has all but rolled out the red carpet the drug addicts. They know here they are safe and won't face much hassle from the police and they'll receive about $500 a month in cash from the county not to mention food stamps that they'll sell. And shockingly, the number of addicts and other assorted dirt-bags has exploded in the city.
San Francisco — where drug addicts outnumber high school students
You also have to factor in the social chaos and resulting increasing lawlessness that arises when a city just cedes an area to open criminal activity. As the broken window theory of policing showed, if there is a perception in the community that laws aren't being enforced and that social order has broken down that will result in increased criminal activity from those people who would have been deterred from committing crimes in the first place. Allowing an open air shooting gallery to exist, and refusing to prosecute people for property crimes and public deification has increased the amount of other criminal activity in the city, thus decreasing the quality of life and negatively impacting commerce in those areas. AIDs isn't the only disease these degenerates contract and the city is on the hook for all of their afflictions.
SF is now attracting junkies on account of their refusal to enforce their laws. the increase in criminal activity and social disorder also costs money and negative impact on the quality of life for law abiding citizens.
You also have to factor in the social chaos and resulting increasing lawlessness that arises when a city just cedes an area to open criminal activity. As the broken window theory of policing showed, if there is a perception in the community that laws aren't being enforced and that social order has broken down that will result in increased criminal activity from those people who would have been deterred from committing crimes in the first place. Allowing an open air shooting gallery to exist, and refusing to prosecute people for property crimes and public deification has increased the amount of other criminal activity in the city, thus decreasing the quality of life and negatively impacting commerce in those areas. AIDs isn't the only disease these degenerates contract and the city is on the hook for all of their afflictions.
SF is now attracting junkies on account of their refusal to enforce their laws. the increase in criminal activity and social disorder also costs money and negative impact on the quality of life for law abiding citizens.
But I’m not arguing you’re wrong about the property crime and the like. I’m arguing that you’re better off financially—I know how much that appeals to you—giving junkies a place to shoot up and clean needles. Whether SF administers that program or any of its programs well is a separate issue.
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SJW? It’s a fucking cost saving argument. Addicts gonna addict unless they get help. If they get HIV or hepatitis first, it’s a costlier problem than cleaning the streets. It’s not even debatable.
San Francisco — where drug addicts outnumber high school students
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/article/San-Francisco-where-street-addicts-outnumber-13571702.php
Hell they spend most of their life just trying to take a shit.
If you want to sympathize with business owners affected, I'm with you, but your claims about tax revenues are a little ridiculous.
Needle exchanges save money overall and prevent epidemics. The Veep finally relented in Indiana, though his considerable, evidence free delay is blamed for a lot of deaths.
Even things that work can be improved. But you and blob are on the wrong side of this. Race is going to shoot up regardless. Do you really want him contracting HIV as a consequence?
If you're going to die on that sword, at least has the common sense to put the free needles where the rest of us law-abiding citizens can enjoy our law-abiding lives in peace without constantly getting fucked with by your 'must-have-free-needles to avoid the FBA" crowd shitting on the sidewalks, passing out in front of businesses and otherwise turning decent places into shitholes.
Fence off a designated area, pass out the free needles and let them shoot the fuck up all they want. Cordone off the lawless zone and don't let them out. Like taking away teenagers car keys at a house kegger so they don't hurt themselves or others.
Instead you want the zombies to roam around disrupting civilized society. Fuck that.
SF is now attracting junkies on account of their refusal to enforce their laws. the increase in criminal activity and social disorder also costs money and negative impact on the quality of life for law abiding citizens.