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Those needles littering the streets? Yeah, the city handed them out - religious left strikes again

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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited May 2019
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    It's not a disease on all accounts. It's a narrow minded cop out. Different substances effect different people different ways. To consider that and then believe that ALL who have become addicted to a substance, behaviour or what have you, is lazy, dense and disingenuous.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Always with the bullshit excuses for a lack of personal responsibility. Weird how I never used any opiates. I could be one of those easily addicted people but I'll never find out because I never used them.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

    But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Always with the bullshit excuses for a lack of personal responsibility. Weird how I never used any opiates. I could be one of those easily addicted people but I'll never find out because I never used them.
    Lucky you. I’ve had surgery. I’ve had opiates. I’m just not afflicted with the predisposition to be addicted to them.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    edited May 2019

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

    But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.
    The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    You can't catch heroine form a sneeze. You have to willfully use it.

    Daft.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

    But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.
    The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.
    Do you recognize the circularity of your argument where the exception becomes the rule? Some evidence points to that for some people. Your proverbial “one-hit, that’s it” physically addicted addict is extremely rare.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

    Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

    But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.
    The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.
    Do you recognize the circularity of your argument where the exception becomes the rule? Some evidence points to that for some people. Your proverbial “one-hit, that’s it” physically addicted addict is extremely rare.
    Not what I said, of course. The first hit does usually identify the person with the predisposition though. I've got an addiction medicine specialist in the family.

    You'll have to ask Rush how he became a junkie. He's been pretty quiet about it.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    SFGbob said:

    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

    Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.
    HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from evidence.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    You can't catch heroine form a sneeze. You have to willfully use it.

    Daft.
    You'd have to act willfully to educate yourself. But you won't. 'Cuz you've got will power!
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    Clearly we need to bring back smoking in public places

    Its a disease to be addicted to tobacco. Why are we discriminating against smokers?

  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

    But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.
    The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.
    Do you recognize the circularity of your argument where the exception becomes the rule? Some evidence points to that for some people. Your proverbial “one-hit, that’s it” physically addicted addict is extremely rare.
    Not what I said, of course. The first hit does usually identify the person with the predisposition though. I've got an addiction medicine specialist in the family.

    You'll have to ask Rush how he became a junkie. He's been pretty quiet about it.
    Classic. Presume I'm Right-Wing because I disagree with you. Sad little lefty.

    I'll bet that "addiction specialist" in your family is a real sharp-shooter, too.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

    Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.
    HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from self-serving evidence I cherry-pick to suit my beliefs.
    Fixed it for ya.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

    Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.
    HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from evidence.
    Another problem created by the religious left. If you've contracted AIDs on account of the fact that you're a fucking junkie you're on your own. But thanks to the religious left, we now all get the joy of paying for this deadbeat's health care.


    We used to have a belief about the deserving and undeserving poor back before the existence of the Welfare state.
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