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Those needles littering the streets? Yeah, the city handed them out - religious left strikes again

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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    SFGbob said:

    Clearly we need to bring back smoking in public places

    Its a disease to be addicted to tobacco. Why are we discriminating against smokers?

    If you lit up a cigarette in a public bar or restaurant here in SF you'd have a number of people in that bar or restaurant yelling at you to put it out and if you insisted on smoking you'd be cited for your behavior. Go out onto the sidewalk drop your pants and take a shit or shoot up and no one will say anything in fact that city will provide you with the needle.
    Pussification of West Coast Urban America is Complete.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

    Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.
    HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from evidence.
    Another problem created by the religious left. If you've contracted AIDs on account of the fact that you're a fucking junkie you're on your own. But thanks to the religious left, we now all get the joy of paying for this deadbeat's health care.


    We used to have a belief about the deserving and undeserving poor back before the existence of the Welfare state.
    blob’s quality of life isn’t affected by stepping over corpses. Retirement in India?
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    So people have no free will. And yes, being a fucking junkie is a personal failure. No one forced you to start and continue using drugs.
    Always the binary response. Do you have a black and white television?

    Most people weren’t forced to abuse drugs. But there is a readily identifiable portion of the population who will easily become addicted even if the first use of opiates was legal and prescribed.
    Yes, some people are more susceptible to becoming addicted than others. Who the fuck doesn't know that or have friends or family that bear that out? You think that's some big "medical science" breakthrough?

    But your type makes stupid, blanket statements like "Addiction is Genetic" and other bullshit like that. Just because someone is more susceptible to an affliction doesn't mean it's genetic. It can also be social, psychological, drug-induced, escapism, and a host of other causes, factors and reasons. But keep on with your "It's a disease" bullshit, when anyone with half a brain and a little life experience knows that's rarely the diagnosis or case. Fucking mush brain.
    The opiate addict is identifiable to doctors who treat addiction. While most of us have either no particular reaction to opiates or are even sickened by them, the addict remembers his first, intensely pleasurable use and chases that high. The fact they are energized by opiates already makes them unusual. I really don’t care if it’s genetic or not, although the evidence points to that.
    Do you recognize the circularity of your argument where the exception becomes the rule? Some evidence points to that for some people. Your proverbial “one-hit, that’s it” physically addicted addict is extremely rare.
    Not what I said, of course. The first hit does usually identify the person with the predisposition though. I've got an addiction medicine specialist in the family.

    You'll have to ask Rush how he became a junkie. He's been pretty quiet about it.
    Classic. Presume I'm Right-Wing because I disagree with you. Sad little lefty.

    I'll bet that "addiction specialist" in your family is a real sharp-shooter, too.
    He’s an MD with 30 years in the field. I’m sure you know more about this than he does.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,341
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    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    SFGbob said:

    Clearly we need to bring back smoking in public places

    Its a disease to be addicted to tobacco. Why are we discriminating against smokers?

    If you lit up a cigarette in a public bar or restaurant here in SF you'd have a number of people in that bar or restaurant yelling at you to put it out and if you insisted on smoking you'd be cited for your behavior. Go out onto the sidewalk drop your pants and take a shit or shoot up and no one will say anything in fact that city will provide you with the needle.

    There are public safe spaces for smokers too. No one is proposing that junkies inject in your favorite restaurant.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,341
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Clearly we need to bring back smoking in public places

    Its a disease to be addicted to tobacco. Why are we discriminating against smokers?

    If you lit up a cigarette in a public bar or restaurant here in SF you'd have a number of people in that bar or restaurant yelling at you to put it out and if you insisted on smoking you'd be cited for your behavior. Go out onto the sidewalk drop your pants and take a shit or shoot up and no one will say anything in fact that city will provide you with the needle.

    There are public safe spaces for smokers too. No one is proposing that junkies inject in your favorite restaurant.
    Just outside the front door. And you better let them use the rest room too
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Clearly we need to bring back smoking in public places

    Its a disease to be addicted to tobacco. Why are we discriminating against smokers?

    If you lit up a cigarette in a public bar or restaurant here in SF you'd have a number of people in that bar or restaurant yelling at you to put it out and if you insisted on smoking you'd be cited for your behavior. Go out onto the sidewalk drop your pants and take a shit or shoot up and no one will say anything in fact that city will provide you with the needle.

    There are public safe spaces for smokers too. No one is proposing that junkies inject in your favorite restaurant.
    Just outside the front door. And you better let them use the rest room too
    The "safe space" for people to shit and shoot up here in SF appears to be most any public sidewalk.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

    Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.
    HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from evidence.
    Another problem created by the religious left. If you've contracted AIDs on account of the fact that you're a fucking junkie you're on your own. But thanks to the religious left, we now all get the joy of paying for this deadbeat's health care.


    We used to have a belief about the deserving and undeserving poor back before the existence of the Welfare state.
    blob’s quality of life isn’t affected by stepping over corpses. Retirement in India?
    You'd be amazed at how quickly the problem would take care of itself.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Clearly we need to bring back smoking in public places

    Its a disease to be addicted to tobacco. Why are we discriminating against smokers?

    If you lit up a cigarette in a public bar or restaurant here in SF you'd have a number of people in that bar or restaurant yelling at you to put it out and if you insisted on smoking you'd be cited for your behavior. Go out onto the sidewalk drop your pants and take a shit or shoot up and no one will say anything in fact that city will provide you with the needle.

    There are public safe spaces for smokers too. No one is proposing that junkies inject in your favorite restaurant.
    Just outside the front door. And you better let them use the rest room too
    The "safe space" for people to shit and shoot up here in SF appears to be most any public sidewalk.
    You see them out there when you’re having a smoke?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,341
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    HHusky said:

    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
    And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist

    Nor do they need enablers like you
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    HHusky said:

    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
    And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist

    Nor do they need enablers like you
    My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.

    Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,341
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
    And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist

    Nor do they need enablers like you
    My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.

    Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
    I'm a fucking addict

    That's why I work so hard

    There is no medical care
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
    And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist

    Nor do they need enablers like you
    My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.

    Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
    I'm a fucking addict

    That's why I work so hard

    There is no medical care
    So self-loathing. Maybe it’s appropriate.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,138
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Wasn’t this thread about needle “exchanges” that aren’t “exchanges” at all, but dispensaries that lead to dirty used needles all over the city?

    Yes, and according to O"keefed this saves the city all kinds of money.
    HIV is pretty expensive to treat. There are studies on this, you know, for those of us who like to argue from evidence.
    Another problem created by the religious left. If you've contracted AIDs on account of the fact that you're a fucking junkie you're on your own. But thanks to the religious left, we now all get the joy of paying for this deadbeat's health care.


    We used to have a belief about the deserving and undeserving poor back before the existence of the Welfare state.
    blob’s quality of life isn’t affected by stepping over corpses. Retirement in India?
    You'd be amazed at how quickly the problem would take care of itself.
    What problem? Just pick up your feet.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,341
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
    And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist

    Nor do they need enablers like you
    My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.

    Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
    I'm a fucking addict

    That's why I work so hard

    There is no medical care
    So self-reliant. Maybe it’s appropriate.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,762
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    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    imagine building safe spaces for illegal activity and that they are popular! Build it and they will come!

    Imagine treating addiction as a disease rather than a failure of the will.
    You can't catch heroine form a sneeze. You have to willfully use it.

    Daft.
    You'd have to act willfully to educate yourself. But you won't. 'Cuz you've got will power!
    I know a wee bit on this subject.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
    And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist

    Nor do they need enablers like you
    My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.

    Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
    Now who’s being binary?
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    The best thing about being an addiction specialist is that there is no cure and you get easily addicted people to get addicted to giving you money for the non cure



    Whether it can be “cured” or not, people can recover and manage their disease. For profit grifters often set up bullshit “treatment centers”. Sometimes they set up bullshit “universities” too.
    And those people don't need fake help like you get from an addiction specialist

    Nor do they need enablers like you
    My relative practices medicine in a healthcare system. He doesn’t run a spa for junkies.

    Is it your deep seeded faith that compels you to argue against providing addicts with medical care?
    Now who’s being binary?
    Yes, but when he is more binary, he is much more nuanced about it. Unlike you black and white crazy right wingers.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    Congrats @HHusky. You’ve successfully fagged out another thread with SJW Bullshit. Take a bow.
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