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Should you expect to be able to raise a family on a minimum wage job?

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,335
    Now, now. Where’s that fabulous sense of humor?

    No, I don’t think private employers should be required to pay a Seattle or San Francisco living wage to low skill labor.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HHusky said:

    Now, now. Where’s that fabulous sense of humor?

    No, I don’t think private employers should be required to pay a Seattle or San Francisco living wage to low skill labor.

    Exactly. And even $15 an hour isn't close to a living wage in either City.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    HHusky said:

    Now, now. Where’s that fabulous sense of humor?

    No, I don’t think private employers should be required to pay a Seattle or San Francisco living wage to low skill labor.

    Got it, you just vote for people who do think that.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,522 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Not as long as H and hondo are cheating on their taxes

    Race, what's the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?
    But but but but

    Pay your fair share and then some

    Or STFU about what others pay
    Race. I'll say this once. I'm not into income bashing or gloating. But I'm pretty sure I pay more into federal income than you.

    State and local tho you probably get fucked. I'd never live in California under the current tax structure. And if you make over $150k, you get fucked by the state and local tax being topped out at $10k under Trump's tax cuts. It's possible your property taxes are close to that alone.
    What does this have to do with you being a hypocrite?

    Stop trying to pretend you know shit about me and stop cheating on your taxes
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,335
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Now, now. Where’s that fabulous sense of humor?

    No, I don’t think private employers should be required to pay a Seattle or San Francisco living wage to low skill labor.

    Got it, you just vote for people who do think that.
    I don’t actually have any meaningful choice if you’re talking about Seattle.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Not as long as H and hondo are cheating on their taxes

    Race, what's the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?
    But but but but

    Pay your fair share and then some

    Or STFU about what others pay
    Race. I'll say this once. I'm not into income bashing or gloating. But I'm pretty sure I pay more into federal income than you.

    State and local tho you probably get fucked. I'd never live in California under the current tax structure. And if you make over $150k, you get fucked by the state and local tax being topped out at $10k under Trump's tax cuts. It's possible your property taxes are close to that alone.
    What does this have to do with you being a hypocrite?

    Stop trying to pretend you know shit about me and stop cheating on your taxes
    You told me to pay my fair share. I do pay my fair share.

    That being said, when you pay sales tax to the state of California on your own for an online purchase where they didn't collect sales tax (see Wayfair decision). Then I'll move my stuff from Montana and pay sales tax on it. Fair?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,522 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Not as long as H and hondo are cheating on their taxes

    Race, what's the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?
    But but but but

    Pay your fair share and then some

    Or STFU about what others pay
    Race. I'll say this once. I'm not into income bashing or gloating. But I'm pretty sure I pay more into federal income than you.

    State and local tho you probably get fucked. I'd never live in California under the current tax structure. And if you make over $150k, you get fucked by the state and local tax being topped out at $10k under Trump's tax cuts. It's possible your property taxes are close to that alone.
    What does this have to do with you being a hypocrite?

    Stop trying to pretend you know shit about me and stop cheating on your taxes
    You told me to pay my fair share. I do pay my fair share.

    That being said, when you pay sales tax to the state of California on your own for an online purchase where they didn't collect sales tax (see Wayfair decision). Then I'll move my stuff from Montana and pay sales tax on it. Fair?
    But but but

    Hypocrite and a cheat

    Not a good look

    You not only don't pay your fair share you don't even pay what you owe
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    RaceBannon said:

    This is what is wrong with the democrats. They run like hell from their own ideas. No guts or brains

    That's always been the problem with limousine liberals. They insulate themselves from having to deal with the policies they advocate for. Oppose vouchers and send their own kids to private schools. Favor illegal immigration, live in communities that aren't impacted by illegal immigrants. Favor weaken criminal punishment while living behinds gates and walls patrolled by private security.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Not as long as H and hondo are cheating on their taxes

    Race, what's the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance?
    But but but but

    Pay your fair share and then some

    Or STFU about what others pay
    Race. I'll say this once. I'm not into income bashing or gloating. But I'm pretty sure I pay more into federal income than you.

    State and local tho you probably get fucked. I'd never live in California under the current tax structure. And if you make over $150k, you get fucked by the state and local tax being topped out at $10k under Trump's tax cuts. It's possible your property taxes are close to that alone.
    What does this have to do with you being a hypocrite?

    Stop trying to pretend you know shit about me and stop cheating on your taxes
    You told me to pay my fair share. I do pay my fair share.

    That being said, when you pay sales tax to the state of California on your own for an online purchase where they didn't collect sales tax (see Wayfair decision). Then I'll move my stuff from Montana and pay sales tax on it. Fair?
    But but but

    Hypocrite and a cheat

    Not a good look

    You not only don't pay your fair share you don't even pay what you owe
    Pressing. Where's your check to the state for online purchases Race?

    The best part of you arguing....I do have a residence in Montana and so it's perfectly legal to do what I'm doing.

    But carry on.
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