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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    greenblood said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
    Then go live there and fuck off.
    love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

    You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

    So your solution would be a government monopoly on health care? If socialized medicine was so great you would see people lining up to move to Canada. In reality, Canadians wait in line for operations and get shitty service by comparison.

    Sorry, I don't want to live in a country where I'm forced to pay for other people's misdeeds and misfortunes. It's stealing to take someone's money and give it to someone else.

    By all means, argue based on statistics that you have no clue how to interpret. We spent billions on government-subsidized programs and costs went up. My grandma thanks you for her $400K surgery that didn't work out as planned.
    Then you should LEAVE. Now. If you pay for medical insurance right now, you are paying for other people's sickness. If you don't pay insurance and are paying cash, you are still paying for other people's sickness through inflated costs.

    It's almost like you don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    greenblood said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
    Then go live there and fuck off.
    love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

    You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

    So your solution would be a government monopoly on health care? If socialized medicine was so great you would see people lining up to move to Canada. In reality, Canadians wait in line for operations and get shitty service by comparison.

    Sorry, I don't want to live in a country where I'm forced to pay for other people's misdeeds and misfortunes. It's stealing to take someone's money and give it to someone else.

    By all means, argue based on statistics that you have no clue how to interpret. We spent billions on government-subsidized programs and costs went up. My grandma thanks you for her $400K surgery that didn't work out as planned.
    Then you should LEAVE. Now. If you pay for medical insurance right now, you are paying for other people's sickness. If you don't pay insurance and are paying cash, you are still paying for other people's sickness through inflated costs.

    It's almost like you don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
    @DerekJohnson it's times like these that we need to #freesigs
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,592 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    greenblood said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
    Then go live there and fuck off.
    love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

    You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

    So your solution would be a government monopoly on health care? If socialized medicine was so great you would see people lining up to move to Canada. In reality, Canadians wait in line for operations and get shitty service by comparison.

    Sorry, I don't want to live in a country where I'm forced to pay for other people's misdeeds and misfortunes. It's stealing to take someone's money and give it to someone else.

    By all means, argue based on statistics that you have no clue how to interpret. We spent billions on government-subsidized programs and costs went up. My grandma thanks you for her $400K surgery that didn't work out as planned.
    Then you should LEAVE. Now. If you pay for medical insurance right now, you are paying for other people's sickness. If you don't pay insurance and are paying cash, you are still paying for other people's sickness through inflated costs.

    It's almost like you don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
    The ones needing to leave are those wishing to live off the sweat of the productive. We do not wish to be Cuba. America or GTFO!
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    greenblood said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
    Then go live there and fuck off.
    love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

    You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

    So your solution would be a government monopoly on health care? If socialized medicine was so great you would see people lining up to move to Canada. In reality, Canadians wait in line for operations and get shitty service by comparison.

    Sorry, I don't want to live in a country where I'm forced to pay for other people's misdeeds and misfortunes. It's stealing to take someone's money and give it to someone else.

    By all means, argue based on statistics that you have no clue how to interpret. We spent billions on government-subsidized programs and costs went up. My grandma thanks you for her $400K surgery that didn't work out as planned.
    Then you should LEAVE. Now. If you pay for medical insurance right now, you are paying for other people's sickness. If you don't pay insurance and are paying cash, you are still paying for other people's sickness through inflated costs.

    It's almost like you don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
    The ones needing to leave are those wishing to live off the sweat of the productive. We do not wish to be Cuba. America or GTFO!
    You clearly missed the point.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,592 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    greenblood said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
    Then go live there and fuck off.
    love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

    You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

    So your solution would be a government monopoly on health care? If socialized medicine was so great you would see people lining up to move to Canada. In reality, Canadians wait in line for operations and get shitty service by comparison.

    Sorry, I don't want to live in a country where I'm forced to pay for other people's misdeeds and misfortunes. It's stealing to take someone's money and give it to someone else.

    By all means, argue based on statistics that you have no clue how to interpret. We spent billions on government-subsidized programs and costs went up. My grandma thanks you for her $400K surgery that didn't work out as planned.
    Then you should LEAVE. Now. If you pay for medical insurance right now, you are paying for other people's sickness. If you don't pay insurance and are paying cash, you are still paying for other people's sickness through inflated costs.

    It's almost like you don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
    The ones needing to leave are those wishing to live off the sweat of the productive. We do not wish to be Cuba. America or GTFO!
    You clearly missed the point.
    What part of the point did I miss besides you wanting us to pay for lazy ass peoples health care?

    I'm not talking about those that can't work I'm talking about those who won't work.
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,354 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    greenblood said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
    Then go live there and fuck off.
    love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

    You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

    So your solution would be a government monopoly on health care? If socialized medicine was so great you would see people lining up to move to Canada. In reality, Canadians wait in line for operations and get shitty service by comparison.

    Sorry, I don't want to live in a country where I'm forced to pay for other people's misdeeds and misfortunes. It's stealing to take someone's money and give it to someone else.

    By all means, argue based on statistics that you have no clue how to interpret. We spent billions on government-subsidized programs and costs went up. My grandma thanks you for her $400K surgery that didn't work out as planned.
    Then you should LEAVE. Now. If you pay for medical insurance right now, you are paying for other people's sickness. If you don't pay insurance and are paying cash, you are still paying for other people's sickness through inflated costs.

    It's almost like you don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
    The ones needing to leave are those wishing to live off the sweat of the productive. We do not wish to be Cuba. America or GTFO!
    You clearly missed the point.
    You clearly don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    greenblood said:

    This was the plan from the get go. The administration knew they couldn't get a single payer system passed, so they came up with a system that would be sure to fail. Once it fails, single payer will be the only option. Pretty sick if you ask me.

    Pretty much every other advanced country has single payer or some kind of similar "evil" socialized medicine
    Then go live there and fuck off.
    love it or leave it response from the pothead. No surprise.

    You do know that healthcare is about 18% of GDP vs. about 8-12 in the other countries and people are charged 400 times as much for pills as in those countries.

    So your solution would be a government monopoly on health care? If socialized medicine was so great you would see people lining up to move to Canada. In reality, Canadians wait in line for operations and get shitty service by comparison.

    Sorry, I don't want to live in a country where I'm forced to pay for other people's misdeeds and misfortunes. It's stealing to take someone's money and give it to someone else.

    By all means, argue based on statistics that you have no clue how to interpret. We spent billions on government-subsidized programs and costs went up. My grandma thanks you for her $400K surgery that didn't work out as planned.
    Then you should LEAVE. Now. If you pay for medical insurance right now, you are paying for other people's sickness. If you don't pay insurance and are paying cash, you are still paying for other people's sickness through inflated costs.

    It's almost like you don't understand basic concepts of insurance and health care costs.
    The ones needing to leave are those wishing to live off the sweat of the producnot wish to be Cuba. America or GTFO!
    You clearly missed the point.
    What part of the point did I miss besides you wanting us to pay for lazy ass peoples health care?

    I'm not talking about those that can't work I'm talking about those who won't work.
    What world do you live in? You pay for lazy ass people's health care every time you or your employer pay medical insurance or any time you pay a medical bill.

    Holy fuck.
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