Looks like I am right again
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Just take a higher percentage from the PAC and run the West
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If the Pac gets an auto bid and UW gets a high enough percentage to be in the ballpark with the B1G, maybe.Canadawg said:Just take a higher percentage from the PAC and run the West
But the other schools are fucking retarded, like Utah, and think they deserve an equal share.
Plus, if (when) UW goes to the B1G they get to play both the LA schools every year like how it fucking should be. This play Arizona and Colorado and get SC twice a decade stuff is fucking bullshit. Fuck this conference. -
Agreed. The fact that Furd and Cal got to play the LA schools every year was an atrocity in hindsight. What were they going to do, go independent?haie said:
If the Pac gets an auto bid and UW gets a high enough percentage to be in the ballpark with the B1G, maybe.Canadawg said:Just take a higher percentage from the PAC and run the West
But the other schools are fucking retarded, like Utah, and think they deserve an equal share.
Plus, if (when) UW goes to the B1G they get to play both the LA schools every year like how it fucking should be. This play Arizona and Colorado and get SC twice a decade stuff is fucking bullshit. Fuck this conference. -
If Amazon wants a sports channel on TV, the Pac-12 has all the infrastructure to do that, especially since the Pac-12 can do multiple sports simultaneously
Getting people on Prime is good, but if they want to disrupt the market and play with FOX or ESPN, they'll need to get in the ring with them on TV
Amazon went big getting a piece of the NFL, so we know they're interested. They're not starting with something like Omega Ball, and I imagine they want in all the major US sports within 5 years -
Is that what they are calling in these days?creepycoug said:
PI my ass.dnc said:
2000 we beat MiamiPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Thought they were 2001. Was that Miami?dnc said:
2002 Ohio StatePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??dnc said:
They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.PostGameOrangeSlices said:That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU
The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years
Fuck off loser LOL
The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.
So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.
I see why you brought this up.
Butt still...lets not act like the B1G is some juggernaut. They struggle.
2001 nobody beat Miami
2002 tOSU beat Miami in the natty
I think they won something like 32 straight games and had one ring to show for it thanks to the schools Lincoln Keinholz's committed to.
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YesEwaDawg said:
Is that what they are calling in these days?creepycoug said:
PI my ass.dnc said:
2000 we beat MiamiPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Thought they were 2001. Was that Miami?dnc said:
2002 Ohio StatePostGameOrangeSlices said:
Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??dnc said:
They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.PostGameOrangeSlices said:That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU
The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years
Fuck off loser LOL
The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.
So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.
I see why you brought this up.
Butt still...lets not act like the B1G is some juggernaut. They struggle.
2001 nobody beat Miami
2002 tOSU beat Miami in the natty
I think they won something like 32 straight games and had one ring to show for it thanks to the schools Lincoln Keinholz's committed to.
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I'm always willing to take the gloves off against Gramps Race ... except when he's right
The Prime numbers this year for the NFL are disastrous ... you can come up with a number of reasons for that ranging from Amazon getting a lot of really crappy Thursday games this year combined with one of the biggest challenges of watching sports on Prime being that you can't flip around channels (something the streaming people haven't caught onto how ingrained people are with this when it comes to watching sports). For Amazon, I suspect that they are able to rationalize the deal with lower levels of infrastructure vs a network and the upsell to Prime that they are getting with new subscribers and eventually as they uptick the annual cost of Prime by $10-20/yr per subscriber.
What should be terrifying to any P10 member school with a potential Amazon deal is YoY viewership decline for what is generally considered a "must watch" weekly event in the NFL. Those % declines for the NFL will only be worse for the P10. It's really hard to rationally argue around it.
While it may be a short-term money maker for the schools involved, it's going to further erode the brand and reputation of the P12 schools. Moreover, with no tie ins to any of the major national networks, you're almost assuredly going to be out of sight and out of mind in any of the national conversation, highlights, etc.
My personal opinion is that the P10 will never sign another media rights deal ... my projections are as follows:
Big12 comes in and aggressively tries to round their conference out to 16 programs ... the Corner schools will see the Big 12 as offering comparable money and additional stability that the P10 can't offer because ...
Everybody knows that UW and Oregon are off to the Big 10 as soon as they get an invite (timing of which is TBD) ...
Assuming the Corner schools act first, could see both UW and Oregon contemplate independence for a few years until the Big10 eventually comes calling ... an added benefit by going independent is being able to sell the value of the program as a national brand (would require playing more of a national schedule - net net that's a positive for UW all the way around) ...
Corner schools leaving first will limit any noise around UW or Oregon leaving behind their in-state rivals ...
I would expect that Oregon St and Wazzu in such a scenario would look towards joining up with the Mountain West for probably all other sports but football while perhaps trying to play the independent game to buy time ...
Cal and Stanford have long-term decisions to make regarding their role in college sports and I could completely see them bowing out of the high end of football game
There's really no value in the P10 remaining as one conference as there just aren't programs and rivalries that resonate nationally with the exception of a few games ...
It all just comes down to which school(s) bail first -
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Will the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel be doing any sideline reporting for Prime Pac after dark?
Her perkies are legit.
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Read itTequilla said:I'm always willing to take the gloves off against Gramps Race ... except when he's right
The Prime numbers this year for the NFL are disastrous ... you can come up with a number of reasons for that ranging from Amazon getting a lot of really crappy Thursday games this year combined with one of the biggest challenges of watching sports on Prime being that you can't flip around channels (something the streaming people haven't caught onto how ingrained people are with this when it comes to watching sports). For Amazon, I suspect that they are able to rationalize the deal with lower levels of infrastructure vs a network and the upsell to Prime that they are getting with new subscribers and eventually as they uptick the annual cost of Prime by $10-20/yr per subscriber.
What should be terrifying to any P10 member school with a potential Amazon deal is YoY viewership decline for what is generally considered a "must watch" weekly event in the NFL. Those % declines for the NFL will only be worse for the P10. It's really hard to rationally argue around it.
While it may be a short-term money maker for the schools involved, it's going to further erode the brand and reputation of the P12 schools. Moreover, with no tie ins to any of the major national networks, you're almost assuredly going to be out of sight and out of mind in any of the national conversation, highlights, etc.
My personal opinion is that the P10 will never sign another media rights deal ... my projections are as follows:
Big12 comes in and aggressively tries to round their conference out to 16 programs ... the Corner schools will see the Big 12 as offering comparable money and additional stability that the P10 can't offer because ...
Everybody knows that UW and Oregon are off to the Big 10 as soon as they get an invite (timing of which is TBD) ...
Assuming the Corner schools act first, could see both UW and Oregon contemplate independence for a few years until the Big10 eventually comes calling ... an added benefit by going independent is being able to sell the value of the program as a national brand (would require playing more of a national schedule - net net that's a positive for UW all the way around) ...
Corner schools leaving first will limit any noise around UW or Oregon leaving behind their in-state rivals ...
I would expect that Oregon St and Wazzu in such a scenario would look towards joining up with the Mountain West for probably all other sports but football while perhaps trying to play the independent game to buy time ...
Cal and Stanford have long-term decisions to make regarding their role in college sports and I could completely see them bowing out of the high end of football game
There's really no value in the P10 remaining as one conference as there just aren't programs and rivalries that resonate nationally with the exception of a few games ...
It all just comes down to which school(s) bail first
Gloves still on
@Tequilla gets it
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What should be terrifying to any P10 member school with a potential Amazon deal is YoY viewership decline for what is generally considered a "must watch" weekly event in the NFL. Those % declines for the NFL will only be worse for the P10. It's really hard to rationally argue around it.
If it is a great deal the SEC would have done it. You have to assume the Pac was third choice at best for Amazon and they won't need to over pay
The TV idea mentioned is of interest but keeping the Pac isn't






