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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,237
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    edited January 2023
    chuck said:

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    Canadawg said:

    I just feel like money has diminished return. The most successful teams aren't necessarily the richest. Don't get me wrong you need a certain level but once you have that then putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage for more money seems dumb.

    As far as where the rights go I just want whatever makes it easiest to access north of the border. I hope Kliavkoff keeps me in mind

    It's not just the immediate $ payoff that matters. All of the blue bloods are consolidating into two super conferences. If UW wants to be one, they have to join. The west is already bleeding talent and relevance eastward. Imagine how bad that's going to be when the two relevant LA schools leave the west as well?

    I don't want to fight for tallest midget status with an outside shot at upsetting someone in the playoffs with our scrappy band of 3* recruits and portal castoffs from the super leagues. That sounds pretty lame.
    Couldn't have said it better myself. Those are my exact concerns.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,237
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

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    Canadawg said:

    I just feel like money has diminished return. The most successful teams aren't necessarily the richest. Don't get me wrong you need a certain level but once you have that then putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage for more money seems dumb.

    As far as where the rights go I just want whatever makes it easiest to access north of the border. I hope Kliavkoff keeps me in mind

    It's not just the immediate $ payoff that matters. All of the blue bloods are consolidating into two super conferences. If UW wants to be one, they have to join. The west is already bleeding talent and relevance eastward. Imagine how bad that's going to be when the two relevant LA schools leave the west as well?

    I don't want to fight for tallest midget status with an outside shot at upsetting someone in the playoffs with our scrappy band of 3* recruits and portal castoffs from the super leagues. That sounds pretty lame.
    If Clemson, FSU, and Miami join the SEC everything is fucked and UW should sell its soul to get into the B1G.

    But that hasn't happened yet, and the ACC has more titles recently than the B1G does.

    If the ACC survives, so does the PAC. We are still a long ways off from two super conferences.

    This scenario is the central assumption for me. I'm not sure I'd change my mind if it were taken away but I'd reevaluate.
    I just don't see it. Both FSU and Clemson proved they can go head to head with the SEC on the biggest stage and win natties.

    Why would they give up an easier path to consistent playoffs for a few extra millions? I don't think they will
    FSU and Clemson are situated in much more fertile recruiting territory
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,726
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    Clemson is no longer a playoff team
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,237
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    Clemson is no longer a playoff team

    Has the game passed Dabo by?
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

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    Canadawg said:

    I just feel like money has diminished return. The most successful teams aren't necessarily the richest. Don't get me wrong you need a certain level but once you have that then putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage for more money seems dumb.

    As far as where the rights go I just want whatever makes it easiest to access north of the border. I hope Kliavkoff keeps me in mind

    It's not just the immediate $ payoff that matters. All of the blue bloods are consolidating into two super conferences. If UW wants to be one, they have to join. The west is already bleeding talent and relevance eastward. Imagine how bad that's going to be when the two relevant LA schools leave the west as well?

    I don't want to fight for tallest midget status with an outside shot at upsetting someone in the playoffs with our scrappy band of 3* recruits and portal castoffs from the super leagues. That sounds pretty lame.
    If Clemson, FSU, and Miami join the SEC everything is fucked and UW should sell its soul to get into the B1G.

    But that hasn't happened yet, and the ACC has more titles recently than the B1G does.

    If the ACC survives, so does the PAC. We are still a long ways off from two super conferences.

    This scenario is the central assumption for me. I'm not sure I'd change my mind if it were taken away but I'd reevaluate.
    I just don't see it. Both FSU and Clemson proved they can go head to head with the SEC on the biggest stage and win natties.

    Why would they give up an easier path to consistent playoffs for a few extra millions? I don't think they will
    FSU and Clemson are situated in much more fertile recruiting territory
    Won't matter if we continue to kick ass in the portal. It's not like we are taking scrubs. We are taking proven players.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    Clemson is no longer a playoff team

    Maybe, but they have a coach that has played in 4 title games and won two of them.

    No one in the B1G compares.

    FSU also beat a tuff SEC team for the title.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,726
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    It's not 2012 anymore

    That was 3 or 4 coaches ago

    And it's not 2018 Clemson

    In 2022 the B1G had 2 teams in

    Not a coincidence
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    It's not 2012 anymore

    That was 3 or 4 coaches ago

    And it's not 2018 Clemson

    In 2022 the B1G had 2 teams in

    Not a coincidence

    Clemson was a QB away this year.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,726
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    Excuses

    It's what's for losers
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    Excuses

    It's what's for losers

    Posts that dont actually say anything

    It's for Race

    Your beloved B1G teams cant even beat TCU
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,476
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    Imagine having two teams in the playoff and not reaching the title game.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    Doogles said:

    Imagine having two teams in the playoff and not reaching the title game.

    The B1G has performed even worse than the Pac in semifinal games...

    2014 OSU probably got lucky the first two QBs got hurt and Big Dick Jones clapped Bama and Oregon
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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    "Team" is done for because they missed the playoff one year is the lowest form of CFB discussion
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    ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,517
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    Canadawg said:

    I think there is a big niche of players that don't want to play in the Midwest in October and November. Alot of players also aren't thinking about conferences as much as fans are. They commit and to play for coaches and schools. There's a world where the B10 isn't stealing a dramatic net difference in west coast talent because all those players from NorCal, Arizona and Washington have parents that just won't fly.

    Adding SDSU covers SoCal. Add them at a reduced rate and try it for 5 years.

    SDSU brings nothing to the table. No one cares about San Diego, not even people that live there. Definitely not people in LA

    You're right though that a lot of West Coast talent will still want to stay on the West Coast.
    I’d add unlv before sdsu. At least one of their 2 major programs has a history of winning at an elite level. Vegas also cares a lot more about unlv (when they’re winning) than sd about sdsu.
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    ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,517
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    Clemson is no longer a playoff team

    Has the game passed Dabo by?
    Church tent preacher Dabo has entered the “I want to play unathletic white dudes over more talented players and also get my talentless son some reps” stage of his career
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    Doogles said:

    Imagine having two teams in the playoff and not reaching the title game.

    The B1G has performed even worse than the Pac in semifinal games...

    2014 OSU probably got lucky the first two QBs got hurt and Big Dick Jones clapped Bama and Oregon
    Gotta enter to win.
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    ntxduck said:

    Clemson is no longer a playoff team

    Has the game passed Dabo by?
    Church tent preacher Dabo has entered the “I want to play unathletic white dudes over more talented players and also get my talentless son some reps” stage of his career
    There might be some truth to this, LIPO but his track record speaks for itself
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,237
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    Church tent preacher Dabo has entered the “I want to play unathletic white dudes over more talented players and also get my talentless son some reps” stage of his career


    Is that a direct quote?
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    edited January 2023
    ntxduck said:

    Clemson is no longer a playoff team

    Has the game passed Dabo by?
    Church tent preacher Dabo has entered the “I want to play unathletic white dudes over more talented players and also get my talentless son some reps” stage of his career
    I saw the Tennessee game too

    Shocking regression
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