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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    TheHB said:

    PAC-12 on Amazon.

    And the nation laughs.

    If we think the rest of the country is clueless about college football out west now, just wait until this happens. Fans in the west won’t even give a shit.

    Besides the new order being an easier path to the new playoff system, I’m not seeing why UW shouldn’t do everything it can to go B1G.

    They already laugh at the Pac-12, who gives a shit?

    Take the Amazon money AND fucking win a big game for once. None of us should give a shit about viewership....Fox thinks truck racing is more important

    all the bigtime games will still be on fox or abc anyways

    bunch of midwest loser dick suckers should root for fucking Minnesota
    This is fucking retarded and why the Pac sucks

    Stay here with your coogs and beavs

    UW should go with the real football
    I thought UW should LEAVE because they weren't going to get money.

    Now, UW could get the money, but the viewership might dip for Colorado at Oregon State...

    Looks like the goalposts are moving for the Midwest dick suckers.

    Take the money, win the games, and win a fucking big bowl game for the first time in 20 years or DIAFF
    It’s almost like viewership correlates with future tv deals and money that pours into the university.

    Take the Amazon money now, watch the ratings plummet, profit.

    What could possibly go wrong?
    Yeah, and the first year in a new model (like streaming) is going to correlate to streaming numbers 10 years from now?

    Jesus
    This sounds like a pitch from Larry Scott.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158

    Race really finds pleasure in being Ohio State's cornfed bitch

    The voices in your head bro

    Stick to the coogs and the Pac 5

    UW wants the big leagues so they can get the guys to win the big games

    You're small time
    UW has had guys to win the big games. They did with James, they did with Rick, they did with Petersen.

    Petersen's problem was that he didn't have the coaching aptitude to win against the big boys.

    It's early for DeBoer, but it's looking promising so far.

    Keep moving the goalposts dipshit. First it was the money. Oh wait, maybe the money will be there. Now lets move on to viewership in a new model that is literally in its inception.

    Talk to me when Amazon throws in the towel on Thursday Night Football. I personally will not bet against Amazon when it comes to how they run their business. Go right ahead and try it, right after swallowing some cheese curd cum.

    The current B1G is a fucking nightmare
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club
    James

    JFC

    Speaking of ancient shit

    The Pac 12 started sucking when Larry fucked the pooch last time on TV

    I haven't moved any goalposts

    The two best conferences don't give a shit about Amazon

    If Amazon wanted to burn money it would be on them

    Yeah two teams in the playoffs is a real nightmare you dumb fucking coog

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    This is all mute. When Paul Finebaum is proclaimimg that UW and Oregon are leaving then it's happening sooner rather than later.

    Going into 2023 and still no TV deal.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158
    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,332

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    And the P12 ?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158
    EwaDawg said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    And the P12 ?
    Both suck. Its the SEC and everyone else
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457

    Race really finds pleasure in being Ohio State's cornfed bitch

    The voices in your head bro

    Stick to the coogs and the Pac 5

    UW wants the big leagues so they can get the guys to win the big games

    You're small time
    UW has had guys to win the big games. They did with James, they did with Rick, they did with Petersen.

    Petersen's problem was that he didn't have the coaching aptitude to win against the big boys.

    It's early for DeBoer, but it's looking promising so far.

    Keep moving the goalposts dipshit. First it was the money. Oh wait, maybe the money will be there. Now lets move on to viewership in a new model that is literally in its inception.

    Talk to me when Amazon throws in the towel on Thursday Night Football. I personally will not bet against Amazon when it comes to how they run their business. Go right ahead and try it, right after swallowing some cheese curd cum.

    The current B1G is a fucking nightmare
    So the bet is that the brilliant business minds at Amazon will be successful marketing west coast college football to the nation.

    Because everything Amazon does turns to gold. (Good luck with that.)

    Washington shouldn’t be a guinea pig in this experiment.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    The flipping back and forth between games is a huge component. Can you imagine calling into a bar to see if they're streaming Amazon on TV to watch the Huskies play San Diego State?


    There's probably a middle ground somewhere, but the last streaming visionary (Larry Scott) just got laughed out of town. You might be right eventually, but like California demanding you drive a tesla by 2030 you're probably jumping the gun.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158
    Ill root for my DAWGS no matter what.

    Wuff!
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,264
    Races coked out frat boy argument has some good points but I definitely don't think the PAC 10 is in a position to directly compete against the P2. The PAC will have to be creative if it wants to make more money.

    The issue is that Race is assuming jumping ship and joining the B1G is risk free. Why do we think Clemson hasn't joined the SEC? Is it possible they don't need a few extra million when they can run the ACC as is? They got natties with pennies in a worse league than the PAC.

    Keep screaming alpha male nonsense. Maybe we can be Nebraska west.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158
    dnc said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
    Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
    Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??
    2002 Ohio State
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,158
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
    Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??
    2002 Ohio State
    Thought they were 2001. Was that Miami?

    Butt still...lets not act like the B1G is some juggernaut. They struggle.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
    Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??
    2002 Ohio State
    Thought they were 2001. Was that Miami?

    Butt still...lets not act like the B1G is some juggernaut. They struggle.
    Definitely hate the B1G.

    But die Utah/Cuog/Beav, fucking die...
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
    Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??
    2002 Ohio State
    Thought they were 2001. Was that Miami?

    Butt still...lets not act like the B1G is some juggernaut. They struggle.
    2000 we beat Miami
    2001 nobody beat Miami
    2002 tOSU beat Miami in the natty

    I think they won something like 32 straight games and had one ring to show for it thanks to the schools Lincoln Keinholz's committed to.

    @creepycoug
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club
    Even gramps knows you can stream college football on networks on any device. You don't need to bury your product to do so on an app
    Canadawg said:

    Races coked out frat boy argument has some good points but I definitely don't think the PAC 10 is in a position to directly compete against the P2. The PAC will have to be creative if it wants to make more money.

    The issue is that Race is assuming jumping ship and joining the B1G is risk free. Why do we think Clemson hasn't joined the SEC? Is it possible they don't need a few extra million when they can run the ACC as is? They got natties with pennies in a worse league than the PAC.

    Keep screaming alpha male nonsense. Maybe we can be Nebraska west.

    This is UW

    Soft fucking losers

    Larry Scott already tried to be innovative and killed the conference

    Leave or die with it you bunch of pussies

    There have always been coogs here trashing the SEC and B1G while pimping this loser Pac 12. Why We Suck
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,264
    Just take a higher percentage from the PAC and run the West
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,264
    haie said:

    Canadawg said:

    Just take a higher percentage from the PAC and run the West

    If the Pac gets an auto bid and UW gets a high enough percentage to be in the ballpark with the B1G, maybe.

    But the other schools are fucking retarded, like Utah, and think they deserve an equal share.

    Plus, if (when) UW goes to the B1G they get to play both the LA schools every year like how it fucking should be. This play Arizona and Colorado and get SC twice a decade stuff is fucking bullshit. Fuck this conference.
    Agreed. The fact that Furd and Cal got to play the LA schools every year was an atrocity in hindsight. What were they going to do, go independent?
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    If Amazon wants a sports channel on TV, the Pac-12 has all the infrastructure to do that, especially since the Pac-12 can do multiple sports simultaneously

    Getting people on Prime is good, but if they want to disrupt the market and play with FOX or ESPN, they'll need to get in the ring with them on TV

    Amazon went big getting a piece of the NFL, so we know they're interested. They're not starting with something like Omega Ball, and I imagine they want in all the major US sports within 5 years
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,332

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
    Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??
    2002 Ohio State
    Thought they were 2001. Was that Miami?

    Butt still...lets not act like the B1G is some juggernaut. They struggle.
    2000 we beat Miami
    2001 nobody beat Miami
    2002 tOSU beat Miami in the natty

    I think they won something like 32 straight games and had one ring to show for it thanks to the schools Lincoln Keinholz's committed to.

    @creepycoug
    PI my ass.
    Is that what they are calling in these days?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    EwaDawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    That dumbass B1G team couldn't even beat TCU

    The B1G has won 1 title in 20 fucking years

    Fuck off loser LOL

    They have two of the past 20 champions and a representative in this year's title game.

    The Pac has one or two titles in that time frame depending on what you consider a title. And both of those are headed to the B1G.

    So the new B1G will have 20-25% of the past 20 titles. The Pac will have 0% of them.

    I see why you brought this up.
    Who was the other champ besides 2014 Ohio State??
    2002 Ohio State
    Thought they were 2001. Was that Miami?

    Butt still...lets not act like the B1G is some juggernaut. They struggle.
    2000 we beat Miami
    2001 nobody beat Miami
    2002 tOSU beat Miami in the natty

    I think they won something like 32 straight games and had one ring to show for it thanks to the schools Lincoln Keinholz's committed to.

    @creepycoug
    PI my ass.
    Is that what they are calling in these days?
    Yes
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I'm always willing to take the gloves off against Gramps Race ... except when he's right

    The Prime numbers this year for the NFL are disastrous ... you can come up with a number of reasons for that ranging from Amazon getting a lot of really crappy Thursday games this year combined with one of the biggest challenges of watching sports on Prime being that you can't flip around channels (something the streaming people haven't caught onto how ingrained people are with this when it comes to watching sports). For Amazon, I suspect that they are able to rationalize the deal with lower levels of infrastructure vs a network and the upsell to Prime that they are getting with new subscribers and eventually as they uptick the annual cost of Prime by $10-20/yr per subscriber.

    What should be terrifying to any P10 member school with a potential Amazon deal is YoY viewership decline for what is generally considered a "must watch" weekly event in the NFL. Those % declines for the NFL will only be worse for the P10. It's really hard to rationally argue around it.

    While it may be a short-term money maker for the schools involved, it's going to further erode the brand and reputation of the P12 schools. Moreover, with no tie ins to any of the major national networks, you're almost assuredly going to be out of sight and out of mind in any of the national conversation, highlights, etc.

    My personal opinion is that the P10 will never sign another media rights deal ... my projections are as follows:

    Big12 comes in and aggressively tries to round their conference out to 16 programs ... the Corner schools will see the Big 12 as offering comparable money and additional stability that the P10 can't offer because ...

    Everybody knows that UW and Oregon are off to the Big 10 as soon as they get an invite (timing of which is TBD) ...

    Assuming the Corner schools act first, could see both UW and Oregon contemplate independence for a few years until the Big10 eventually comes calling ... an added benefit by going independent is being able to sell the value of the program as a national brand (would require playing more of a national schedule - net net that's a positive for UW all the way around) ...

    Corner schools leaving first will limit any noise around UW or Oregon leaving behind their in-state rivals ...

    I would expect that Oregon St and Wazzu in such a scenario would look towards joining up with the Mountain West for probably all other sports but football while perhaps trying to play the independent game to buy time ...

    Cal and Stanford have long-term decisions to make regarding their role in college sports and I could completely see them bowing out of the high end of football game

    There's really no value in the P10 remaining as one conference as there just aren't programs and rivalries that resonate nationally with the exception of a few games ...

    It all just comes down to which school(s) bail first
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025
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    Will the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel be doing any sideline reporting for Prime Pac after dark?

    Her perkies are legit.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,721 Founders Club
    What should be terrifying to any P10 member school with a potential Amazon deal is YoY viewership decline for what is generally considered a "must watch" weekly event in the NFL. Those % declines for the NFL will only be worse for the P10. It's really hard to rationally argue around it.


    If it is a great deal the SEC would have done it. You have to assume the Pac was third choice at best for Amazon and they won't need to over pay

    The TV idea mentioned is of interest but keeping the Pac isn't