I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No? *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard. Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No? *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
And further, part of why I like to use the historical numbers, is because you can see how sharply spending (both public and private) took off exactly when the government entered the market in 1965. There's also sharp increases with the various passages of each version of medicare.If your argument is that our current system is inefficient, there is strong correlated evidence that government spending, and the crowding out it causes the private sector, is what is driving those inefficiencies. Keep blaming the private sector for the increasing failings of an increasingly socialist system. It's the socialist playbook. I'd like to see the chart through 2017. I'd also like to see GDP through 2017 as well. komo4buttfucker, it's not hard. I believe government spending exceeded private in the last few years but I could be wrong.
And further, part of why I like to use the historical numbers, is because you can see how sharply spending (both public and private) took off exactly when the government entered the market in 1965. There's also sharp increases with the various passages of each version of medicare.If your argument is that our current system is inefficient, there is strong correlated evidence that government spending, and the crowding out it causes the private sector, is what is driving those inefficiencies. Keep blaming the private sector for the increasing failings of an increasingly socialist system. It's the socialist playbook. I'd like to see the chart through 2017. I'd also like to see GDP through 2017 as well.
And further, part of why I like to use the historical numbers, is because you can see how sharply spending (both public and private) took off exactly when the government entered the market in 1965. There's also sharp increases with the various passages of each version of medicare.If your argument is that our current system is inefficient, there is strong correlated evidence that government spending, and the crowding out it causes the private sector, is what is driving those inefficiencies. Keep blaming the private sector for the increasing failings of an increasingly socialist system. It's the socialist playbook.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No? *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard. Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran. Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that! Socialist playbook.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No? *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard. Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran. Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that! Socialist playbook. Better spend hundreds of billions to fight imaginary enemies at the end of the earth. Much better use of our wealth than social programs that literally prevent people from dying!
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.What a twat.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.What a twat. Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No? *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard. Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran. Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that! Socialist playbook. Better spend hundreds of billions to fight imaginary enemies at the end of the earth. Much better use of our wealth than social programs that literally prevent people from dying! This is why arguing with a liberal is pointless.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.What a twat. Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get. Thanks Obama!The last "fix" fucked affordable insuranceCan't wait for the next one!
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare. You do understand the difference between the VA and a single payer system right? I doubt it so I'll explain it.You see, a single payer system still relies on the same doctors and hospitals, which are not government ran and owned.
JFC who the fuck is going to do anything without a profit?There is a big need to changeThe devil remains firmly ensconced in the details
JFC who the fuck is going to do anything without a profit?There is a big need to changeThe devil remains firmly ensconced in the details Get rid of government healthcare. Create medical savings accounts that people pay into just like they do with SS over the course of their entire working life and create catastrophic health insurance to cover extra ordinary expenses life cancer and heart surgery. Let people shop for their everyday healthcare needs just like they do with every other consumer product. Build an incentive into the system for people to save money. Treat the money accumulated in the MSA as an asset that people can pass onto their heirs when they die. Why do people spend the greatest percentage of all their healthcare cost in the last two years of their lives? Because for the most part they ain't paying for it.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.What a twat. Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get. Thanks Obama!The last "fix" fucked affordable insuranceCan't wait for the next one! The shitty part of Obamacare was the exchanges that allowed the insurance and pharma vultures continued windfalls.The good part was medicaid expansion.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No? *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard. Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran. Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that! Socialist playbook. Better spend hundreds of billions to fight imaginary enemies at the end of the earth. Much better use of our wealth than social programs that literally prevent people from dying! This is why arguing with a liberal is pointless. Your daily routine is arguing with liberals on an online message board so what does that say
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.What a twat. Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get. Thanks Obama!The last "fix" fucked affordable insuranceCan't wait for the next one! The shitty part of Obamacare was the exchanges that allowed the insurance and pharma vultures continued windfalls.The good part was medicaid expansion. Dipshit, their profits were controlled and prices were fixed based on that under obamacare.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.What a twat. Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get. Why is it $800? Oh right, because of market intervention the last time.Socialist playbook.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare. The VA! Venezuela! Bill Ayers!
JFC who the fuck is going to do anything without a profit?There is a big need to changeThe devil remains firmly ensconced in the details Get rid of government healthcare. Create medical savings accounts that people pay into just like they do with SS over the course of their entire working life and create catastrophic health insurance to cover extra ordinary expenses life cancer and heart surgery. Let people shop for their everyday healthcare needs just like they do with every other consumer product. Build an incentive into the system for people to save money. Treat the money accumulated in the MSA as an asset that people can pass onto their heirs when they die. Why do people spend the greatest percentage of all their healthcare cost in the last two years of their lives? Because for the most part they ain't paying for it. When you get cancer or a life threatening disease. Let me know how shopping works out.You do know there's a difference between buying a car and cancer care, right?
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.What a twat. Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get. Thanks Obama!The last "fix" fucked affordable insuranceCan't wait for the next one! The shitty part of Obamacare was the exchanges that allowed the insurance and pharma vultures continued windfalls.The good part was medicaid expansion. Dipshit, their profits were controlled and prices were fixed based on that under obamacare. Except insurance companies were given 30 million new customers. Did you hear of one that complained about their supposed controlled profits?And with more people covered, how much more do you think big pharma made?I thought you were an economics smart guy too.
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart. Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change! There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare. The VA! Venezuela! Bill Ayers! Yes, yes how dare anyone point out real world examples of the system you're advocating for sucking ass. We should only focus on the socialist utopia that's in your mind.
JFC who the fuck is going to do anything without a profit?There is a big need to changeThe devil remains firmly ensconced in the details Get rid of government healthcare. Create medical savings accounts that people pay into just like they do with SS over the course of their entire working life and create catastrophic health insurance to cover extra ordinary expenses life cancer and heart surgery. Let people shop for their everyday healthcare needs just like they do with every other consumer product. Build an incentive into the system for people to save money. Treat the money accumulated in the MSA as an asset that people can pass onto their heirs when they die. Why do people spend the greatest percentage of all their healthcare cost in the last two years of their lives? Because for the most part they ain't paying for it. When you get cancer or a life threatening disease. Let me know how shopping works out.You do know there's a difference between buying a car and cancer care, right? What's the difference Hondo?Cue the Kunt act.
