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If Medicare for all is such a slick no brainer
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Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that!2001400ex said:
Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran.UW_Doog_Bot said:
*sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.2001400ex said:
I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard.
Socialist playbook. -
It's not hard but you won't post it?UW_Doog_Bot said:
komo4buttfucker, it's not hard. I believe government spending exceeded private in the last few years but I could be wrong.2001400ex said:UW_Doog_Bot said:And further, part of why I like to use the historical numbers, is because you can see how sharply spending (both public and private) took off exactly when the government entered the market in 1965. There's also sharp increases with the various passages of each version of medicare.
If your argument is that our current system is inefficient, there is strong correlated evidence that government spending, and the crowding out it causes the private sector, is what is driving those inefficiencies. Keep blaming the private sector for the increasing failings of an increasingly socialist system. It's the socialist playbook.
I'd like to see the chart through 2017.
I'd also like to see GDP through 2017 as well.
And with the expansion of Medicare and baby boomers, I'm not surprised if public exceeded private. -
So I am in the strip mall blood sucking diagnostic place this morning to get several blood tests per my doctor
I said I am cash and want the discount. She says the Dr needed to stamp the order for her to be able to do that.
No you don't, I wittily replied, I'm paying not the Dr.
But I need that stamp.
No, you don't
I can call my boss
Yes, you can
Boss is a dick and says she needs the stamp
She gloats that she needs the stamp.
I ask what the difference is. 240$ cash, 700$ insurance
I say you really think I'm paying 500 more because of a stamp? Go fuck yourself
Have a nice day she says sarcastically
Fuck you I note while leaving
I hate healthcare. With a burning passion. Fuck them all -
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. -
Better spend hundreds of billions to fight imaginary enemies at the end of the earth. Much better use of our wealth than social programs that literally prevent people from dying!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that!2001400ex said:
Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran.UW_Doog_Bot said:
*sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.2001400ex said:
I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard.
Socialist playbook. -
What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
What a twat. -
Sweet Geezus what a dumbfuck.2001400ex said:
Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran.UW_Doog_Bot said:
*sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.2001400ex said:
I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard. -
JFC who the fuck is going to do anything without a profit?
There is a big need to change
The devil remains firmly ensconced in the details
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This is why arguing with a liberal is pointless.HardlyClothed said:
Better spend hundreds of billions to fight imaginary enemies at the end of the earth. Much better use of our wealth than social programs that literally prevent people from dying!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that!2001400ex said:
Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran.UW_Doog_Bot said:
*sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.2001400ex said:
I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard.
Socialist playbook. -
Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get.UW_Doog_Bot said:
What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
What a twat.
