If Medicare for all is such a slick no brainer

2001400ex

creepycoug said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

HardlyClothed said:

creepycoug said:

Some things I don't do:

I don't surf in water that I can't see through

I don't fuck around with the DOJ

I don't tell my wife what I really think ... about much of anything

I don't joke about hijacking anything at the airport

I don't argue music, rowboat, history or tall person trivia with Yella hi @YellowSnow

I don't argue the pros and cons of belonging to AARP with @RaceBannon

I don't argue vintage porn trivia with @PurpleThrobber (Christy Canyon damn it!!)

I don't debate the most effective means of pest control with @Swaye,

AND

I don't argue the economis with @UW_Doog_Bot

I just don't!

The synthesis of his economic beliefs is when the government does something it’s socialism. Any market intervetion is the “socialist playbook”. What a fraud.

I'm trying to be balanced here, because I am a default free market person. I do not think that is an accurate description of @UW_Doog_Bot 's political-economic philosophy. The government does some things well, and by "well", I don't mean that there are goods and services that they produce and deliver with any economic efficiency, but rather that they are the actor in the best position to reasonably offer the good or service. But to deny that the government fucks things up on the norm is to be intellectually dishonest. Again, that doesn't mean I don't see a role for the guv. For example, I'm a supporter of public education, but it's as flawed as all get-out. Still, we need it, in my view. I don't think @UW_Doog_Bot is necessarily antagonistic to that view all the way around.

@UW_Doog_Bot is what you call a lower case "L" libertarian as opposed to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarian. Funny enough, my first exposure to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarianism came from one of my parents best fren's who lives about 5 mins down the road from Mr. Bot. The guy's daughter basically runs the home schooling community in the OC.

I'm not even really a lower case libertarian. I believe in too many radical concepts like the EPA, education vouchers, the FED and economic policy, National Parks, the supremacy of federal law guaranteeing civil rights, the universality of human rights and our responsibility to help support them around the world, national borders, etc.

I'm more like the forgotten part of the GOP when they were still into environmentalism but also limited government. Or the forgotten part of the 90's Dems when Bill started crossing the isle maybe? Not sure, I don't really fit too many places easily. Very few economists do. Maybe I can fill out a questionnaire for you and with your superior historical knowledge you can tell me what party of what era I belong to.

I can tell you I'm on opposite axis from communists and fascists!

I feel the same, even though I've been tagged with bob's dreaded "gang of liberal Hondo interventionists", whatever that means.

Bob thinks if you aren't far right. Then you are left and everyone on the left is a Communist bent on destroying America. And therefore we all think the same.

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

creepycoug said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

HardlyClothed said:

creepycoug said:

Some things I don't do:

I don't surf in water that I can't see through

I don't fuck around with the DOJ

I don't tell my wife what I really think ... about much of anything

I don't joke about hijacking anything at the airport

I don't argue music, rowboat, history or tall person trivia with Yella hi @YellowSnow

I don't argue the pros and cons of belonging to AARP with @RaceBannon

I don't argue vintage porn trivia with @PurpleThrobber (Christy Canyon damn it!!)

I don't debate the most effective means of pest control with @Swaye,

AND

I don't argue the economis with @UW_Doog_Bot

I just don't!

The synthesis of his economic beliefs is when the government does something it’s socialism. Any market intervetion is the “socialist playbook”. What a fraud.

I'm trying to be balanced here, because I am a default free market person. I do not think that is an accurate description of @UW_Doog_Bot 's political-economic philosophy. The government does some things well, and by "well", I don't mean that there are goods and services that they produce and deliver with any economic efficiency, but rather that they are the actor in the best position to reasonably offer the good or service. But to deny that the government fucks things up on the norm is to be intellectually dishonest. Again, that doesn't mean I don't see a role for the guv. For example, I'm a supporter of public education, but it's as flawed as all get-out. Still, we need it, in my view. I don't think @UW_Doog_Bot is necessarily antagonistic to that view all the way around.

@UW_Doog_Bot is what you call a lower case "L" libertarian as opposed to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarian. Funny enough, my first exposure to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarianism came from one of my parents best fren's who lives about 5 mins down the road from Mr. Bot. The guy's daughter basically runs the home schooling community in the OC.

I'm not even really a lower case libertarian. I believe in too many radical concepts like the EPA, education vouchers, the FED and economic policy, National Parks, the supremacy of federal law guaranteeing civil rights, the universality of human rights and our responsibility to help support them around the world, national borders, etc.

I'm more like the forgotten part of the GOP when they were still into environmentalism but also limited government. Or the forgotten part of the 90's Dems when Bill started crossing the isle maybe? Not sure, I don't really fit too many places easily. Very few economists do. Maybe I can fill out a questionnaire for you and with your superior historical knowledge you can tell me what party of what era I belong to.

I can tell you I'm on opposite axis from communists and fascists!

I feel the same, even though I've been tagged with bob's dreaded "gang of liberal Hondo interventionists", whatever that means.

Bob thinks if you aren't far right. Then you are left and everyone on the left is a Communist bent on destroying America. And therefore we all think the same.

I challenge to go 24 hours without fucking even one strawman's ass Hondo.

UW_Doog_Bot

creepycoug said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

HardlyClothed said:

creepycoug said:

Some things I don't do:

I don't surf in water that I can't see through

I don't fuck around with the DOJ

I don't tell my wife what I really think ... about much of anything

I don't joke about hijacking anything at the airport

I don't argue music, rowboat, history or tall person trivia with Yella hi @YellowSnow

I don't argue the pros and cons of belonging to AARP with @RaceBannon

I don't argue vintage porn trivia with @PurpleThrobber (Christy Canyon damn it!!)

I don't debate the most effective means of pest control with @Swaye,

AND

I don't argue the economis with @UW_Doog_Bot

I just don't!

The synthesis of his economic beliefs is when the government does something it’s socialism. Any market intervetion is the “socialist playbook”. What a fraud.

I'm trying to be balanced here, because I am a default free market person. I do not think that is an accurate description of @UW_Doog_Bot 's political-economic philosophy. The government does some things well, and by "well", I don't mean that there are goods and services that they produce and deliver with any economic efficiency, but rather that they are the actor in the best position to reasonably offer the good or service. But to deny that the government fucks things up on the norm is to be intellectually dishonest. Again, that doesn't mean I don't see a role for the guv. For example, I'm a supporter of public education, but it's as flawed as all get-out. Still, we need it, in my view. I don't think @UW_Doog_Bot is necessarily antagonistic to that view all the way around.

@UW_Doog_Bot is what you call a lower case "L" libertarian as opposed to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarian. Funny enough, my first exposure to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarianism came from one of my parents best fren's who lives about 5 mins down the road from Mr. Bot. The guy's daughter basically runs the home schooling community in the OC.

I'm not even really a lower case libertarian. I believe in too many radical concepts like the EPA, education vouchers, the FED and economic policy, National Parks, the supremacy of federal law guaranteeing civil rights, the universality of human rights and our responsibility to help support them around the world, national borders, etc.

I'm more like the forgotten part of the GOP when they were still into environmentalism but also limited government. Or the forgotten part of the 90's Dems when Bill started crossing the isle maybe? Not sure, I don't really fit too many places easily. Very few economists do. Maybe I can fill out a questionnaire for you and with your superior historical knowledge you can tell me what party of what era I belong to.

I can tell you I'm on opposite axis from communists and fascists!

I feel the same, even though I've been tagged with bob's dreaded "gang of liberal Hondo interventionists", whatever that means.

Reasonable and tolerant people can disagree. I think it's pretty clear who is who in the Tug.

creepycoug

UW_Doog_Bot said:

creepycoug said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

HardlyClothed said:

creepycoug said:

Some things I don't do:

I don't surf in water that I can't see through

I don't fuck around with the DOJ

I don't tell my wife what I really think ... about much of anything

I don't joke about hijacking anything at the airport

I don't argue music, rowboat, history or tall person trivia with Yella hi @YellowSnow

I don't argue the pros and cons of belonging to AARP with @RaceBannon

I don't argue vintage porn trivia with @PurpleThrobber (Christy Canyon damn it!!)

I don't debate the most effective means of pest control with @Swaye,

AND

I don't argue the economis with @UW_Doog_Bot

I just don't!

The synthesis of his economic beliefs is when the government does something it’s socialism. Any market intervetion is the “socialist playbook”. What a fraud.

I'm trying to be balanced here, because I am a default free market person. I do not think that is an accurate description of @UW_Doog_Bot 's political-economic philosophy. The government does some things well, and by "well", I don't mean that there are goods and services that they produce and deliver with any economic efficiency, but rather that they are the actor in the best position to reasonably offer the good or service. But to deny that the government fucks things up on the norm is to be intellectually dishonest. Again, that doesn't mean I don't see a role for the guv. For example, I'm a supporter of public education, but it's as flawed as all get-out. Still, we need it, in my view. I don't think @UW_Doog_Bot is necessarily antagonistic to that view all the way around.

@UW_Doog_Bot is what you call a lower case "L" libertarian as opposed to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarian. Funny enough, my first exposure to 2 silver dollar, crack pot Libertarianism came from one of my parents best fren's who lives about 5 mins down the road from Mr. Bot. The guy's daughter basically runs the home schooling community in the OC.

I'm not even really a lower case libertarian. I believe in too many radical concepts like the EPA, education vouchers, the FED and economic policy, National Parks, the supremacy of federal law guaranteeing civil rights, the universality of human rights and our responsibility to help support them around the world, national borders, etc.

I'm more like the forgotten part of the GOP when they were still into environmentalism but also limited government. Or the forgotten part of the 90's Dems when Bill started crossing the isle maybe? Not sure, I don't really fit too many places easily. Very few economists do. Maybe I can fill out a questionnaire for you and with your superior historical knowledge you can tell me what party of what era I belong to.

I can tell you I'm on opposite axis from communists and fascists!

I feel the same, even though I've been tagged with bob's dreaded "gang of liberal Hondo interventionists", whatever that means.

Reasonable and tolerant people can disagree. I think it's pretty clear who is who in the Tug.

Indeed it is.

Get ready for it .... 1, 2, tres ....