Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
If Medicare for all is such a slick no brainer
Comments
-
There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. -
The VA! Venezuela! Bill Ayers!SFGbob said:
There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat. -
Thanks Obama!HardlyClothed said:
Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get.UW_Doog_Bot said:
What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
What a twat.
The last "fix" fucked affordable insurance
Can't wait for the next one! -
Your daily routine is arguing with liberals on an online message board so what does that saySFGbob said:
This is why arguing with a liberal is pointless.HardlyClothed said:
Better spend hundreds of billions to fight imaginary enemies at the end of the earth. Much better use of our wealth than social programs that literally prevent people from dying!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yeah, the government is doing such a knock out job with their socialist utopia programs that are driving up skyrocketing spending! We should definitely increase that!2001400ex said:
Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran.UW_Doog_Bot said:
*sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.2001400ex said:
I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard.
Socialist playbook. -
You do understand the difference between the VA and a single payer system right? I doubt it so I'll explain it.SFGbob said:
There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
You see, a single payer system still relies on the same doctors and hospitals, which are not government ran and owned. -
The shitty part of Obamacare was the exchanges that allowed the insurance and pharma vultures continued windfalls.RaceBannon said:
Thanks Obama!HardlyClothed said:
Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get.UW_Doog_Bot said:
What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
What a twat.
The last "fix" fucked affordable insurance
Can't wait for the next one!
The good part was medicaid expansion. -
Only they don't get to PROFIT I assume2001400ex said:
You do understand the difference between the VA and a single payer system right? I doubt it so I'll explain it.SFGbob said:
There's a not for profit healthcare system operating right now. It's called the VA and we can all see how wonderfully they provide healthcare.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
You see, a single payer system still relies on the same doctors and hospitals, which are not government ran and owned.
Death camps for Doctors
Work is freedom!
Edit to point out the usual hondo bullshit. He who pays has the say. They don't have to run the hospital they just set the rates and say what is covered and what isn't
But they aren't running it!!!!!1111!!!!! -
Get rid of government healthcare. Create medical savings accounts that people pay into just like they do with SS over the course of their entire working life and create catastrophic health insurance to cover extra ordinary expenses life cancer and heart surgery.RaceBannon said:JFC who the fuck is going to do anything without a profit?
There is a big need to change
The devil remains firmly ensconced in the details
Let people shop for their everyday healthcare needs just like they do with every other consumer product. Build an incentive into the system for people to save money. Treat the money accumulated in the MSA as an asset that people can pass onto their heirs when they die. Why do people spend the greatest percentage of all their healthcare cost in the last two years of their lives? Because for the most part they ain't paying for it. -
Why is it $800? Oh right, because of market intervention the last time.HardlyClothed said:
Awesome idea! I’m going to put the $50 I have available after I pay my $800 monthly premium into Pfizer stock next chance I get.UW_Doog_Bot said:
What percentage of profit do you think health insurance and pharmaceuticals are making? Most of the majors are public companies so we should all probably invest in them if they are making a killing.HardlyClothed said:
It’s the profit motive of health insurance and pharmaceuticals that are bleeding us dry. Capitalism is working folks no need to change!UW_Doog_Bot said:
Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?Rubberfist said:
I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.
Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
What a twat.
Socialist playbook. -
When you get cancer or a life threatening disease. Let me know how shopping works out.SFGbob said:
Get rid of government healthcare. Create medical savings accounts that people pay into just like they do with SS over the course of their entire working life and create catastrophic health insurance to cover extra ordinary expenses life cancer and heart surgery.RaceBannon said:JFC who the fuck is going to do anything without a profit?
There is a big need to change
The devil remains firmly ensconced in the details
Let people shop for their everyday healthcare needs just like they do with every other consumer product. Build an incentive into the system for people to save money. Treat the money accumulated in the MSA as an asset that people can pass onto their heirs when they die. Why do people spend the greatest percentage of all their healthcare cost in the last two years of their lives? Because for the most part they ain't paying for it.
You do know there's a difference between buying a car and cancer care, right?
