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Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
Some are wrong. There's no metaphysical claim with "life emerges", rather, we're? just saying we don't know yet (and may never know). But not knowing the answer doesn't equate to evidence of magic or that the laws of physics were suspended this one time.MikeDamone said:
I didn’t assert you stressed. Just stated a fact. Yet some would suggest “life emerges” is a metaphysical claim.YellowSnow said:
I don’t stress about it much. The burden of proof is not on me after all. I don’t make any metaphysical claims.MikeDamone said:
The point is, you have faith.YellowSnow said:
Well, yeah, if I’m wrong, the consequences are dire. Eternal damnation sounds like a real bummer.MikeDamone said:
Some say it takes more faith not to believe than to believe.YellowSnow said:My basic elevator speech hasn't changed much since HS...
Earth = 4.5 billion years old
Simple life emerges 600 million years ago
Dinosaurs for like 200 millions years
Early modern homo sapiens don't arrive until 200,000 years ago
Then 2,000 years ago in the most bass akwards part of the world (not Rome or China mind you) amongst a bunch of bronze age goat herders, the most important even in the history of the planet occurs, followed by a Roman Emperor needing a new state religion three centuries later.
I need more evidence guys and can't take on faith. But that's just me, and believing that we're simply worm dirt when we die ain't for everyone.
Mrs. Snow is a confirmed papist, but more of a deist these days. I told her she can take on a new boyfriend in heaven if I don't get in.
ATBSJBS, I'm thankful for the Protestant Reformation and the good that it did in creating the modern world.
At the end of the day, I stand by Saint Chris Hitchens point, which is to say that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. -
Sermon Seeker - TRUE believer in REAL God (protestant division)The goat herders understood that what is seen is made from what is unseen
We can see back to the big bang which is cool. We can't see what banged
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Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
The goat herders responded logically to what they could see, which wasn't much.RaceBannon said:The goat herders understood that what is seen is made from what is unseen
We can see back to the big bang which is cool. We can't see what banged
They did have a decent understanding of human nature and laid down some good rules. I try to follow about 60% of them. -
Yes… it can be. Which is why “life emerges” 600 million years ago requires faith. Because it can be dismissed without evidence.YellowSnow said:
Some are wrong. There's no metaphysical claim with "life emerges", rather, we're? just saying we don't know yet (and may never know). But not knowing the answer doesn't equate to evidence of magic or that the laws of physics were suspended this one time.MikeDamone said:
I didn’t assert you stressed. Just stated a fact. Yet some would suggest “life emerges” is a metaphysical claim.YellowSnow said:
I don’t stress about it much. The burden of proof is not on me after all. I don’t make any metaphysical claims.MikeDamone said:
The point is, you have faith.YellowSnow said:
Well, yeah, if I’m wrong, the consequences are dire. Eternal damnation sounds like a real bummer.MikeDamone said:
Some say it takes more faith not to believe than to believe.YellowSnow said:My basic elevator speech hasn't changed much since HS...
Earth = 4.5 billion years old
Simple life emerges 600 million years ago
Dinosaurs for like 200 millions years
Early modern homo sapiens don't arrive until 200,000 years ago
Then 2,000 years ago in the most bass akwards part of the world (not Rome or China mind you) amongst a bunch of bronze age goat herders, the most important even in the history of the planet occurs, followed by a Roman Emperor needing a new state religion three centuries later.
I need more evidence guys and can't take on faith. But that's just me, and believing that we're simply worm dirt when we die ain't for everyone.
Mrs. Snow is a confirmed papist, but more of a deist these days. I told her she can take on a new boyfriend in heaven if I don't get in.
ATBSJBS, I'm thankful for the Protestant Reformation and the good that it did in creating the modern world.
At the end of the day, I stand by Saint Chris Hitchens point, which is to say that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
My bro in law has a PHD in chemistry. From UW in the mid 90s. He runs a big department of about 200 people doing top secret shit. His journey to Christianity was chinteresting (or not). The deeper he got into science and his field, he could no longer ignore that God exists. Until he then accepted Christ. He’s not the only scientist I know who went through this. It doesn’t prove or disprove anything. I just find it compelling when people deep into chemistry, biology, archaeology, astronomy, etc either become Christian’s or their faith deepens. -
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It takes a whole lot more faith to believe the entirety of the universe came together by a series of unrelated cells, minerals, atoms and events than to accept that perhaps there is some master designer that built it.MikeDamone said:
Yes… it can be. Which is why “life emerges” 600 million years ago requires faith. Because it can be dismissed without evidence.YellowSnow said:
Some are wrong. There's no metaphysical claim with "life emerges", rather, we're? just saying we don't know yet (and may never know). But not knowing the answer doesn't equate to evidence of magic or that the laws of physics were suspended this one time.MikeDamone said:
I didn’t assert you stressed. Just stated a fact. Yet some would suggest “life emerges” is a metaphysical claim.YellowSnow said:
I don’t stress about it much. The burden of proof is not on me after all. I don’t make any metaphysical claims.MikeDamone said:
The point is, you have faith.YellowSnow said:
Well, yeah, if I’m wrong, the consequences are dire. Eternal damnation sounds like a real bummer.MikeDamone said:
Some say it takes more faith not to believe than to believe.YellowSnow said:My basic elevator speech hasn't changed much since HS...
Earth = 4.5 billion years old
Simple life emerges 600 million years ago
Dinosaurs for like 200 millions years
Early modern homo sapiens don't arrive until 200,000 years ago
Then 2,000 years ago in the most bass akwards part of the world (not Rome or China mind you) amongst a bunch of bronze age goat herders, the most important even in the history of the planet occurs, followed by a Roman Emperor needing a new state religion three centuries later.
I need more evidence guys and can't take on faith. But that's just me, and believing that we're simply worm dirt when we die ain't for everyone.
Mrs. Snow is a confirmed papist, but more of a deist these days. I told her she can take on a new boyfriend in heaven if I don't get in.
ATBSJBS, I'm thankful for the Protestant Reformation and the good that it did in creating the modern world.
At the end of the day, I stand by Saint Chris Hitchens point, which is to say that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
My bro in law has a PHD in chemistry. From UW in the mid 90s. He runs a big department of about 200 people doing top secret shit. His journey to Christianity was chinteresting (or not). The deeper he got into science and his field, he could no longer ignore that God exists. Until he then accepted Christ. He’s not the only scientist I know who went through this. It doesn’t prove or disprove anything. I just find it compelling when people deep into chemistry, biology, archaeology, astronomy, etc either become Christian’s or their faith deepens.
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Deist - some God of some sort is out there, somewhere
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Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiotI gotta meet this unseen being that has been designing 200 billion galaxies for the past 10+ billion years.
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Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
How do you figure? That we haven't unraveled the mysteries of the Big Bang doesn't make it more likely that there was/is a master designer than not. And furthermore, it's big leap to get from "the origins of the Universe are complicated" to the Nicaean Creed.PurpleThrobber said:
It takes a whole lot more faith to believe the entirety of the universe came together by a series of unrelated cells, minerals, atoms and events than to accept that perhaps there is some master designer that built it.MikeDamone said:
Yes… it can be. Which is why “life emerges” 600 million years ago requires faith. Because it can be dismissed without evidence.YellowSnow said:
Some are wrong. There's no metaphysical claim with "life emerges", rather, we're? just saying we don't know yet (and may never know). But not knowing the answer doesn't equate to evidence of magic or that the laws of physics were suspended this one time.MikeDamone said:
I didn’t assert you stressed. Just stated a fact. Yet some would suggest “life emerges” is a metaphysical claim.YellowSnow said:
I don’t stress about it much. The burden of proof is not on me after all. I don’t make any metaphysical claims.MikeDamone said:
The point is, you have faith.YellowSnow said:
Well, yeah, if I’m wrong, the consequences are dire. Eternal damnation sounds like a real bummer.MikeDamone said:
Some say it takes more faith not to believe than to believe.YellowSnow said:My basic elevator speech hasn't changed much since HS...
Earth = 4.5 billion years old
Simple life emerges 600 million years ago
Dinosaurs for like 200 millions years
Early modern homo sapiens don't arrive until 200,000 years ago
Then 2,000 years ago in the most bass akwards part of the world (not Rome or China mind you) amongst a bunch of bronze age goat herders, the most important even in the history of the planet occurs, followed by a Roman Emperor needing a new state religion three centuries later.
I need more evidence guys and can't take on faith. But that's just me, and believing that we're simply worm dirt when we die ain't for everyone.
Mrs. Snow is a confirmed papist, but more of a deist these days. I told her she can take on a new boyfriend in heaven if I don't get in.
ATBSJBS, I'm thankful for the Protestant Reformation and the good that it did in creating the modern world.
At the end of the day, I stand by Saint Chris Hitchens point, which is to say that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
My bro in law has a PHD in chemistry. From UW in the mid 90s. He runs a big department of about 200 people doing top secret shit. His journey to Christianity was chinteresting (or not). The deeper he got into science and his field, he could no longer ignore that God exists. Until he then accepted Christ. He’s not the only scientist I know who went through this. It doesn’t prove or disprove anything. I just find it compelling when people deep into chemistry, biology, archaeology, astronomy, etc either become Christian’s or their faith deepens.
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Sermon Seeker - TRUE believer in REAL God (protestant division)
A guy has to do something to pass the eternal timewhlinder said:I gotta meet this unseen being that has been designing 200 billion galaxies for the past 10+ billion years.
Was there ever a beginning? Is there an end? Our shit will blow up eventually but there are lots of replacements
A noted atheist said he thinks aliens may have seeded earth
Not out of the question. Ancient Aliens is a guilty pleasure
But I'm not here to tell anyone what to believe
I love science and Jesus
