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  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,735
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    Deist - some God of some sort is out there, somewhere
    pawz said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    My basic elevator speech hasn't changed much since HS...

    Earth = 4.5 billion years old

    Simple life emerges 600 million years ago

    Dinosaurs for like 200 millions years

    Early modern homo sapiens don't arrive until 200,000 years ago

    Then 2,000 years ago in the most bass akwards part of the world (not Rome or China mind you) amongst a bunch of bronze age goat herders, the most important even in the history of the planet occurs, followed by a Roman Emperor needing a new state religion three centuries later.

    I need more evidence guys and can't take on faith. But that's just me, and believing that we're simply worm dirt when we die ain't for everyone.

    Mrs. Snow is a confirmed papist, but more of a deist these days. I told her she can take on a new boyfriend in heaven if I don't get in.

    ATBSJBS, I'm thankful for the Protestant Reformation and the good that it did in creating the modern world.

    Some say it takes more faith not to believe than to believe.
    Well, yeah, if I’m wrong, the consequences are dire. Eternal damnation sounds like a real bummer.
    The point is, you have faith.
    I don’t stress about it much. The burden of proof is not on me after all. I don’t make any metaphysical claims.
    I didn’t assert you stressed. Just stated a fact. Yet some would suggest “life emerges” is a metaphysical claim.
    Some are wrong. There's no metaphysical claim with "life emerges", rather, we're? just saying we don't know yet (and may never know). But not knowing the answer doesn't equate to evidence of magic or that the laws of physics were suspended this one time.

    At the end of the day, I stand by Saint Chris Hitchens point, which is to say that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
    Yes… it can be. Which is why “life emerges” 600 million years ago requires faith. Because it can be dismissed without evidence.

    My bro in law has a PHD in chemistry. From UW in the mid 90s. He runs a big department of about 200 people doing top secret shit. His journey to Christianity was chinteresting (or not). The deeper he got into science and his field, he could no longer ignore that God exists. Until he then accepted Christ. He’s not the only scientist I know who went through this. It doesn’t prove or disprove anything. I just find it compelling when people deep into chemistry, biology, archaeology, astronomy, etc either become Christian’s or their faith deepens.
    It takes a whole lot more faith to believe the entirety of the universe came together by a series of unrelated cells, minerals, atoms and events than to accept that perhaps there is some master designer that built it.


    That’s my point. Im an atheist though. But I understand the benefit religion has in organization and maintaining a civil society throughout history and today. I’m not anti religion. Atheists who lose their shit over religion are fucking annoying. They are usually arrogant smug pricks as well. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a stupid schtick. Some very intelligent and enlightened people throughout history aren’t so dismissive and flippant about it. Calling people of faith idiots show inability to think abstractly and see a picture.
    I remember my calling non-atheists idiots stage phase .
    Hopefully you’re more enlightened now.

    Oops did I put stage?

    I wouldn't say enlightened. I did stop calling people idiots over their faith though. My gf of many years is serious about Christianity. It's not an issue for us.
    YKWYWF

    ? I don't know that one. I'll assume it's a compliment though.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 53,878
    50000 Comments 10,000 Awesomes 10,000 Up Votes Ninth Anniversary
    Sermon Seeker - TRUE believer in REAL God (protestant division)
    chuck said:

    pawz said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    My basic elevator speech hasn't changed much since HS...

    Earth = 4.5 billion years old

    Simple life emerges 600 million years ago

    Dinosaurs for like 200 millions years

    Early modern homo sapiens don't arrive until 200,000 years ago

    Then 2,000 years ago in the most bass akwards part of the world (not Rome or China mind you) amongst a bunch of bronze age goat herders, the most important even in the history of the planet occurs, followed by a Roman Emperor needing a new state religion three centuries later.

    I need more evidence guys and can't take on faith. But that's just me, and believing that we're simply worm dirt when we die ain't for everyone.

    Mrs. Snow is a confirmed papist, but more of a deist these days. I told her she can take on a new boyfriend in heaven if I don't get in.

    ATBSJBS, I'm thankful for the Protestant Reformation and the good that it did in creating the modern world.

    Some say it takes more faith not to believe than to believe.
    Well, yeah, if I’m wrong, the consequences are dire. Eternal damnation sounds like a real bummer.
    The point is, you have faith.
    I don’t stress about it much. The burden of proof is not on me after all. I don’t make any metaphysical claims.
    I didn’t assert you stressed. Just stated a fact. Yet some would suggest “life emerges” is a metaphysical claim.
    Some are wrong. There's no metaphysical claim with "life emerges", rather, we're? just saying we don't know yet (and may never know). But not knowing the answer doesn't equate to evidence of magic or that the laws of physics were suspended this one time.

    At the end of the day, I stand by Saint Chris Hitchens point, which is to say that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
    Yes… it can be. Which is why “life emerges” 600 million years ago requires faith. Because it can be dismissed without evidence.

    My bro in law has a PHD in chemistry. From UW in the mid 90s. He runs a big department of about 200 people doing top secret shit. His journey to Christianity was chinteresting (or not). The deeper he got into science and his field, he could no longer ignore that God exists. Until he then accepted Christ. He’s not the only scientist I know who went through this. It doesn’t prove or disprove anything. I just find it compelling when people deep into chemistry, biology, archaeology, astronomy, etc either become Christian’s or their faith deepens.
    It takes a whole lot more faith to believe the entirety of the universe came together by a series of unrelated cells, minerals, atoms and events than to accept that perhaps there is some master designer that built it.


    That’s my point. Im an atheist though. But I understand the benefit religion has in organization and maintaining a civil society throughout history and today. I’m not anti religion. Atheists who lose their shit over religion are fucking annoying. They are usually arrogant smug pricks as well. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a stupid schtick. Some very intelligent and enlightened people throughout history aren’t so dismissive and flippant about it. Calling people of faith idiots show inability to think abstractly and see a picture.
    I remember my calling non-atheists idiots stage phase .
    Hopefully you’re more enlightened now.

    Oops did I put stage?

    I wouldn't say enlightened. I did stop calling people idiots over their faith though. My gf of many years is serious about Christianity. It's not an issue for us.
    YKWYWF

    ? I don't know that one. I'll assume it's a compliment though.
    you know why you were flagged
    pawz
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 7,121
    Standard Supporter 10,000 Awesomes 2,500 Up Votes Seventh Anniversary
    Deist - some God of some sort is out there, somewhere
    I paid $35 for my official papers and became a priest in the Universal Life Church. I held communion daily, sometimes 3-4 times a day - to hell waiting for Sundays. None of my friends would let me perform the wedding ceremonies. Assholes.

    I was down and out when I paid the $35 - otherwise I would have paid the $100 for the advanced degree and name or my choice. My wife at the time did not approve of me doing that as I wanted to name myself Mother Superior.
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