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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,407
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
    I could also go with Agnostic, I guess, I mean there is no evidence of a theoretical thing NOT being true...

    I appreciate religion. It's interwoven with human history and is the driver of many of the societal norms we accept today. Humans needed something to explain events they could not explain: death, illness, weather, natural disasters. What are those lights in the sky? What's this sun and moon thing? How to explain? God did it! Of course it became abused to benefit certain people. If you don't show up at church and give me 10% of your money you're gonna end up in hell has been a very effective sales pitch.

    However, we know shit now, have the ability to communicate globally and share information, have a scientific process and can explain things which were previously unexplainable. Except for death. So it continues to give us something to look forward to after we die. Pick your flavor of ice cream on what you have to do to enjoy whatever awaits in the great beyond.

    I was raised a Christian Scientist, married a Catholic, been to Methodist and Lutheran church (other relatives), have a former mormon brother in law, visited mosques in Egypt, been to mass at JP2's church in Krakow, work with plenty of Hindus & Muslims and know plenty of MadSon's chosen ones. It's cool, y'all do you, until you cross the line to evil.

    I just don't think any of them are right. The images and data being retrieved by the Webb Telescope has reinforced this with me even more. There is no possible way to contextualize how large and old the universe is. The number of events that have occurred in the universe is beyond our ability to comprehend. And when there are that many events, galaxies forming and dying, matter smashing into other matter, at some point you get the combination of the right shit smashing together and forming our galaxy to get what we have on this planet.

    We're just atoms. It's not that fucking complicated.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,051 Founders Club
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    whlinder said:

    I could also go with Agnostic, I guess, I mean there is no evidence of a theoretical thing NOT being true...

    I appreciate religion. It's interwoven with human history and is the driver of many of the societal norms we accept today. Humans needed something to explain events they could not explain: death, illness, weather, natural disasters. What are those lights in the sky? What's this sun and moon thing? How to explain? God did it! Of course it became abused to benefit certain people. If you don't show up at church and give me 10% of your money you're gonna end up in hell has been a very effective sales pitch.

    However, we know shit now, have the ability to communicate globally and share information, have a scientific process and can explain things which were previously unexplainable. Except for death. So it continues to give us something to look forward to after we die. Pick your flavor of ice cream on what you have to do to enjoy whatever awaits in the great beyond.

    I was raised a Christian Scientist, married a Catholic, been to Methodist and Lutheran church (other relatives), have a former mormon brother in law, visited mosques in Egypt, been to mass at JP2's church in Krakow, work with plenty of Hindus & Muslims and know plenty of MadSon's chosen ones. It's cool, y'all do you, until you cross the line to evil.

    I just don't think any of them are right. The images and data being retrieved by the Webb Telescope has reinforced this with me even more. There is no possible way to contextualize how large and old the universe is. The number of events that have occurred in the universe is beyond our ability to comprehend. And when there are that many events, galaxies forming and dying, matter smashing into other matter, at some point you get the combination of the right shit smashing together and forming our galaxy to get what we have on this planet.

    We're just atoms. It's not that fucking complicated.

    It's extraordinarily complicated, regardless of belief.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,836 Founders Club
    edited September 2022
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
    whlinder said:

    I could also go with Agnostic, I guess, I mean there is no evidence of a theoretical thing NOT being true...

    I appreciate religion. It's interwoven with human history and is the driver of many of the societal norms we accept today. Humans needed something to explain events they could not explain: death, illness, weather, natural disasters. What are those lights in the sky? What's this sun and moon thing? How to explain? God did it! Of course it became abused to benefit certain people. If you don't show up at church and give me 10% of your money you're gonna end up in hell has been a very effective sales pitch.

    However, we know shit now, have the ability to communicate globally and share information, have a scientific process and can explain things which were previously unexplainable. Except for death. So it continues to give us something to look forward to after we die. Pick your flavor of ice cream on what you have to do to enjoy whatever awaits in the great beyond.

    I was raised a Christian Scientist, married a Catholic, been to Methodist and Lutheran church (other relatives), have a former mormon brother in law, visited mosques in Egypt, been to mass at JP2's church in Krakow, work with plenty of Hindus & Muslims and know plenty of MadSon's chosen ones. It's cool, y'all do you, until you cross the line to evil.

    I just don't think any of them are right. The images and data being retrieved by the Webb Telescope has reinforced this with me even more. There is no possible way to contextualize how large and old the universe is. The number of events that have occurred in the universe is beyond our ability to comprehend. And when there are that many events, galaxies forming and dying, matter smashing into other matter, at some point you get the combination of the right shit smashing together and forming our galaxy to get what we have on this planet.

    We're just atoms. It's not that fucking complicated.

    Superior row peter puffer logic.

    I concur.

    I suspect more than a few of us tall Vikings oarsmen never truly accepted the Christian God. And Thor is just for comic book movies.
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,772 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2022
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
    No militant atheist?

    edit: oic, praise FSM.
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  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
    Left off a pole option:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,836 Founders Club
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
    MikeDamone said:

    You left of those who claim to be atheist but have the government as their lord and savior and are more fanatical about it than any religion or cult.

    That said, I find militant atheists way more annoying than evangelicals

    What does this thread have to do with politics? You either believe in God or you don’t.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    YellowSnow said:

    MikeDamone said:

    You left of those who claim to be atheist but have the government as their lord and savior and are more fanatical about it than any religion or cult.

    That said, I find militant atheists way more annoying than evangelicals

    What does this thread have to do with politics? You either believe in God or you don’t.
    Nothing. Just missing a pole option that applies to a large part of the population. I’m just trying to be inclusive of ALL religions.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    YellowSnow said:

    My basic elevator speech hasn't changed much since HS...

    Earth = 4.5 billion years old

    Simple life emerges 600 million years ago

    Dinosaurs for like 200 millions years

    Early modern homo sapiens don't arrive until 200,000 years ago

    Then 2,000 years ago in the most bass akwards part of the world (not Rome or China mind you) amongst a bunch of bronze age goat herders, the most important even in the history of the planet occurs, followed by a Roman Emperor needing a new state religion three centuries later.

    I need more evidence guys and can't take on faith. But that's just me, and believing that we're simply worm dirt when we die ain't for everyone.

    Mrs. Snow is a confirmed papist, but more of a deist these days. I told her she can take on a new boyfriend in heaven if I don't get in.

    ATBSJBS, I'm thankful for the Protestant Reformation and the good that it did in creating the modern world.

    Some say it takes more faith not to believe than to believe.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,968 Founders Club
    Sermon Seeker - TRUE believer in REAL God (protestant division)
    YellowSnow said:

    MikeDamone said:

    You left of those who claim to be atheist but have the government as their lord and savior and are more fanatical about it than any religion or cult.

    That said, I find militant atheists way more annoying than evangelicals

    What does this thread have to do with politics? You either believe in God or you don’t.
    People tend to believe in something or anything



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