USC/UCLA sell Pac 12 couch
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As long as we still have the yearly option of loosing to Cal. I’m in.
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greenblood said:
There’s rumors that the big 10 wants 24 teams. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and cal are basically locks
They also want Florida st and Miami. Miami and the sec don’t get along so big 10 is a better fit for Miami. They’ll want Florida st for the name and natural Miami rivalry.
That leaves 2. A lot of talk of Notre dame and Virginia. If Notre dame still says no. It’s Virginia and Virginia tech.
4 pods with six teams
Oregon
Washington
Cal
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Ohio state
Michigan
Michigan st
Penn st
Purdue
Indiana
Virginia
Virginia tech/Notre dame
Rutgers
Maryland
Miami
Florida st
That first pod would need to be tweaked though. That just seems brutal.
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i think thats largely the b10 west now.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
IMO the 2nd pod needs the most tweaks. That’s a pathetic grouping headlined by Wisconsin? Iowa?
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Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power -
If the coastal thing with the ACC can get around 85 cents on the dollar of a B1G deal I would rather do the coastal thing. Of course, it's way more complicated to arrange and ultimately likely to net less money so it won't happen.greenblood said:There’s rumors that the big 10 wants 24 teams. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and cal are basically locks
They also want Florida st and Miami. Miami and the sec don’t get along so big 10 is a better fit for Miami. They’ll want Florida st for the name and natural Miami rivalry.
That leaves 2. A lot of talk of Notre dame and Virginia. If Notre dame still says no. It’s Virginia and Virginia tech.
4 pods with six teams
Oregon
Washington
Cal
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Ohio state
Michigan
Michigan st
Penn st
Purdue
Indiana
Virginia
Virginia tech/Notre dame
Rutgers
Maryland
Miami
Florida st
That third pod would need to be tweaked though. That just seems brutal. -
That cakewalk hasn’t had any icing for years.rodmansrage said:if you're notre dame, it better be a metric fuckton of money to get you into the big 10 and out of that cakewalk to the playoff schedule.
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They get there thoughTheHB said:
That cakewalk hasn’t had any icing for years.rodmansrage said:if you're notre dame, it better be a metric fuckton of money to get you into the big 10 and out of that cakewalk to the playoff schedule.
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They should really look at hiring Brian Kelly. Or Brian Kelly.RaceBannon said:
They get there thoughTheHB said:
That cakewalk hasn’t had any icing for years.rodmansrage said:if you're notre dame, it better be a metric fuckton of money to get you into the big 10 and out of that cakewalk to the playoff schedule.
Killed by Bama in the 12 championship and two CFP appearances -
If Notre Dame joins it goes to the third pod with PSU to the eastern one.
And with that you could maybe mix up some of the 2nd and 3rd pods for more competitive balance.
UNC has to be in the mix for the eastern pod with UVA. -
Fucking Florida. I hate those guys. Loved Superior. Guy was born to be a Hurricane. But otherwise hate the Gates.whatshouldicareabout said:Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power
If I were doing it, I'd drop Penn State down into Pod #4 in exchange for Rutgers. Geographically they're both close enough, and that would alleviate some pressure from Pod 3 and add some beef to Pod 4. Plus, Miami and Penn State have a long-standing rivalry and dislike for one another. It was kind of a prelude to Catholics vs. Convicts, but for State College instead of the other pedos. "The Christians are going to do something!!" for Bob
And while I was at it, I'd kick Rutgers and Indiana (or Illinois ... take your pick IDGAF) out of the conference and bring in Clemson and North Carolina. If one of those won't or can't come, then you go to Boston College, Syracuse, or NC State. I'd take BC for the academis bros and a great gameday experience in the fall in Chestnut Hill, as fine a location and you'll find for a fall Saturday. -
Oh, and Notre Dame can't be in the same pod with Miami. They are anathema to one another and we? like it that way. If they played each other every year it would take a little shine off of the rivalry IMO. Periodic match-ups works better.creepycoug said:
Fucking Florida. I hate those guys. Loved Superior. Guy was born to be a Hurricane. But otherwise hate the Gates.whatshouldicareabout said:Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power
If I were doing it, I'd drop Penn State down into Pod #4 in exchange for Rutgers. Geographically they're both close enough, and that would alleviate some pressure from Pod 3 and add some beef to Pod 4. Plus, Miami and Penn State have a long-standing rivalry and dislike for one another. It was kind of a prelude to Catholics vs. Convicts, but for State College instead of the other pedos. "The Christians are going to do something!!" for Bob
And while I was at it, I'd kick Rutgers and Indiana (or Illinois ... take your pick IDGAF) out of the conference and bring in Clemson and North Carolina. If one of those won't or can't come, then you go to Boston College, Syracuse, or NC State. I'd take BC for the academis bros and a great gameday experience in the fall in Chestnut Hill, as fine a location and you'll find for a fall Saturday. -
I agree that time zone dominance should be the B1G goal. They would be crazy to open the door for the big 12 or sec to take Oregon, Washington, and stanford. UCLA and usc are not going to want to play every home game at 8pm. And even in games they do. Say Oregon and Washington go to the sec or big 12, USC/Iowa is going to pull the same numbers as Oregon/Ole Miss Oregon/okie st, or UW/Tenn or UW/Baylor. The B1G needs to put the late night window on lockdown. That time zone might not get a lot of viewers, but that’s made up for the lack of competition. I’d bet the Pac 12 after dark games on a game for game basis pull higher numbers than 80-90% of noon pacific time games.
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creepycoug said:
Oh, and Notre Dame can't be in the same pod with Miami. They are anathema to one another and we? like it that way. If they played each other every year it would take a little shine off of the rivalry IMO. Periodic match-ups works better.creepycoug said:
Fucking Florida. I hate those guys. Loved Superior. Guy was born to be a Hurricane. But otherwise hate the Gates.whatshouldicareabout said:Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power
If I were doing it, I'd drop Penn State down into Pod #4 in exchange for Rutgers. Geographically they're both close enough, and that would alleviate some pressure from Pod 3 and add some beef to Pod 4. Plus, Miami and Penn State have a long-standing rivalry and dislike for one another. It was kind of a prelude to Catholics vs. Convicts, but for State College instead of the other pedos. "The Christians are going to do something!!" for Bob
And while I was at it, I'd kick Rutgers and Indiana (or Illinois ... take your pick IDGAF) out of the conference and bring in Clemson and North Carolina. If one of those won't or can't come, then you go to Boston College, Syracuse, or NC State. I'd take BC for the academis bros and a great gameday experience in the fall in Chestnut Hill, as fine a location and you'll find for a fall Saturday.
wat? that's why they should play! I guess you're saying catholics vs convicts would be watered down? I say milk that shit! -
arguments can be made without question. there are the natural kind of rivalries like Washington/Oregon, Mich/OSU, Miam/FSU, Bamers/Auburn. Those can be played every year because the rivalry is permanent. Then there are the rivalries that stem from an accident of history ... a game or series of games and context that create the hate. Miami/ND has that. I fear if they played every year it would in fact water it down. They'd get used to each other somehow. As it stands, when they play it's still kind of a big deal.dtd said:creepycoug said:
Oh, and Notre Dame can't be in the same pod with Miami. They are anathema to one another and we? like it that way. If they played each other every year it would take a little shine off of the rivalry IMO. Periodic match-ups works better.creepycoug said:
Fucking Florida. I hate those guys. Loved Superior. Guy was born to be a Hurricane. But otherwise hate the Gates.whatshouldicareabout said:Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power
If I were doing it, I'd drop Penn State down into Pod #4 in exchange for Rutgers. Geographically they're both close enough, and that would alleviate some pressure from Pod 3 and add some beef to Pod 4. Plus, Miami and Penn State have a long-standing rivalry and dislike for one another. It was kind of a prelude to Catholics vs. Convicts, but for State College instead of the other pedos. "The Christians are going to do something!!" for Bob
And while I was at it, I'd kick Rutgers and Indiana (or Illinois ... take your pick IDGAF) out of the conference and bring in Clemson and North Carolina. If one of those won't or can't come, then you go to Boston College, Syracuse, or NC State. I'd take BC for the academis bros and a great gameday experience in the fall in Chestnut Hill, as fine a location and you'll find for a fall Saturday.
wat? that's why they should play! I guess you're saying catholics vs convicts would be watered down? I say milk that shit! -
Tend to agree. It would make for great TV if they had to make an elimination game to get to play one another. That way it only happens when each is relevant and all kinds of shit talk when one can't make that game.creepycoug said:
arguments can be made without question. there are the natural kind of rivalries like Washington/Oregon, Mich/OSU, Miam/FSU, Bamers/Auburn. Those can be played every year because the rivalry is permanent. Then there are the rivalries that stem from an accident of history ... a game or series of games and context that create the hate. Miami/ND has that. I fear if they played every year it would in fact water it down. They'd get used to each other somehow. As it stands, when they play it's still kind of a big deal.dtd said:creepycoug said:
Oh, and Notre Dame can't be in the same pod with Miami. They are anathema to one another and we? like it that way. If they played each other every year it would take a little shine off of the rivalry IMO. Periodic match-ups works better.creepycoug said:
Fucking Florida. I hate those guys. Loved Superior. Guy was born to be a Hurricane. But otherwise hate the Gates.whatshouldicareabout said:Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power
If I were doing it, I'd drop Penn State down into Pod #4 in exchange for Rutgers. Geographically they're both close enough, and that would alleviate some pressure from Pod 3 and add some beef to Pod 4. Plus, Miami and Penn State have a long-standing rivalry and dislike for one another. It was kind of a prelude to Catholics vs. Convicts, but for State College instead of the other pedos. "The Christians are going to do something!!" for Bob
And while I was at it, I'd kick Rutgers and Indiana (or Illinois ... take your pick IDGAF) out of the conference and bring in Clemson and North Carolina. If one of those won't or can't come, then you go to Boston College, Syracuse, or NC State. I'd take BC for the academis bros and a great gameday experience in the fall in Chestnut Hill, as fine a location and you'll find for a fall Saturday.
wat? that's why they should play! I guess you're saying catholics vs convicts would be watered down? I say milk that shit! -
Miami Notre Dame only was born because there was no BCS or playoffs
We've improved the game beyond that now -
dtd said:creepycoug said:
Oh, and Notre Dame can't be in the same pod with Miami. They are anathema to one another and we? like it that way. If they played each other every year it would take a little shine off of the rivalry IMO. Periodic match-ups works better.creepycoug said:
Fucking Florida. I hate those guys. Loved Superior. Guy was born to be a Hurricane. But otherwise hate the Gates.whatshouldicareabout said:Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power
If I were doing it, I'd drop Penn State down into Pod #4 in exchange for Rutgers. Geographically they're both close enough, and that would alleviate some pressure from Pod 3 and add some beef to Pod 4. Plus, Miami and Penn State have a long-standing rivalry and dislike for one another. It was kind of a prelude to Catholics vs. Convicts, but for State College instead of the other pedos. "The Christians are going to do something!!" for Bob
And while I was at it, I'd kick Rutgers and Indiana (or Illinois ... take your pick IDGAF) out of the conference and bring in Clemson and North Carolina. If one of those won't or can't come, then you go to Boston College, Syracuse, or NC State. I'd take BC for the academis bros and a great gameday experience in the fall in Chestnut Hill, as fine a location and you'll find for a fall Saturday.
wat? that's why they should play! I guess you're saying catholics vs convicts would be watered down? I say milk that shit!
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Miami/Notre Dame was born because Miami had the temerity to let their equipment manager division score on poor Gerry Foust and lay a 58-7 lumber stick up the butter beans of the other pedos. ND whined like a little bitch about that on a national scale, actual crocodile tears, and the media and Brent Turdburger jumped on with both feet. Like someone said in The U, the history books are filled with ND scoring 70 on the Sisters of the Poor opponents. The rule is you can't do it to Our Lady. Apparently. Well pffffuck that. That's what made me a Miami fan. Right there and then. It's not our? job to stop our? 3rd string offense, or our? second or first for that matter. It's yours. Hire a better coach and get better players. We're not all Chip Kelley magnanimous.RaceBannon said:Miami Notre Dame only was born because there was no BCS or playoffs
We've improved the game beyond that now
That game birthed the rivalry and the hate. Other than a single blip in 1960 (Miami has a bunch of weird/unlikely victories over really big name programs back when they really sucked), ND owned Miami with 11 straight wins from 1967 to 1980. They played a lot and got a lot of Miami ass in the process. But the worm turned on them in a huge way and they didn't like it. At. all. That was also the birth of my disdain for the fighting Irish. I can't remember a bigger bunch of whinny little girls with the notable exception of Babs and her embarrassing whining about the Orange Bowl experience.
I knew Miami had arrived as a national power when, during my summer term with one of the big downtown Seattle law firms, I saw a framed picture of the "31 to 30" scoreboard taken by a senior partner at said law firm from the '88 game, which he had attended. When the highly successful faithful of an old and proud program are framing pictures of a one point victory over you that the wefs gift-wrapped for them, you know you now matter. Miami was better than Notre Dame in '88 when they won their last national title, and they know it and they know we? know it and that stokes the hate fire even more.
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I knowcreepycoug said:
Miami/Notre Dame was born because Miami had the temerity to let their equipment manager division score on poor Gerry Foust and lay a 58-7 lumber stick up the butter beans of the other pedos. ND whined like a little bitch about that on a national scale, actual crocodile tears, and the media and Brent Turdburger jumped on with both feet. Like someone said in The U, the history books are filled with ND scoring 70 on the Sisters of the Poor opponents. The rule is you can't do it to Our Lady. Apparently. Well pffffuck that. That's what made me a Miami fan. Right there and then. It's not our? job to stop our? 3rd string offense, or our? second or first for that matter. It's yours. Hire a better coach and get better players. We're not all Chip Kelley magnanimous.RaceBannon said:Miami Notre Dame only was born because there was no BCS or playoffs
We've improved the game beyond that now
That game birthed the rivalry and the hate. Other than a single blip in 1960 (Miami has a bunch of weird/unlikely victories over really big name programs back when they really sucked), ND owned Miami with 11 straight wins from 1967 to 1980. They played a lot and got a lot of Miami ass in the process. But the worm turned on them in a huge way and they didn't like. That was also the birth of my disdain for the fighting Irish. I can't remember a bigger bunch of whinny little girls with the notable exception of Babs and her embarrassing whining about the Orange Bowl experience.
@Gladstone
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Also Ara Parsegian was in the booth with Brett. The story is as well known as any Husky lore
I was a Canes fan since I stumbled across the Howard Schnellenberger show on fledgling ESPN
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I forgot. That's the source of the crocodile tears. Or whatever.RaceBannon said:Also Ara Parsegian was in the booth with Brett. The story is as well known as any Husky lore
I was a Canes fan since I stumbled across the Howard Schnellenberger show on fledgling ESPN -
The hatred was great. The fact that it was all or nothing made it greater
If they play today the loser could still make the playoffs -
And look ... here I am more than 30 years later bitching about the HORRIFIC Cleveland Gary non-fumble fumble call and arguing (rightly) that Miami was better than Irish in the year of its sole national title since the Cascades were pushed up by the plate. BCS and playoffs takes that away.RaceBannon said:The hatred was great. The fact that it was all or nothing made it greater
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I was just happy to see sod busters getting out played and thru the air. Like a new awakening in CFB.RaceBannon said:Also Ara Parsegian was in the booth with Brett. The story is as well known as any Husky lore
I was a Canes fan since I stumbled across the Howard Schnellenberger show on fledgling ESPN -
1984 Washington/BYUcreepycoug said:
And look ... here I am more than 30 years later bitching about the HORRIFIC Cleveland Gary non-fumble fumble call and arguing (rightly) that Miami was better than Irish in the year of its sole national title since the Cascades were pushed up by the plate. BCS and playoffs takes that away.RaceBannon said:The hatred was great. The fact that it was all or nothing made it greater
If they play today the loser could still make the playoffs
1988 Miami/Notre Dame
1991 Washington/Miami
1992 Colorado/Georgia Tech
A shitty offense, a "fumble", and a couple split titles. Those equal out to a lifetime of debate that will never end. Who won the title again last year?
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Geobamatheknowledge said:
1984 Washington/BYUcreepycoug said:
And look ... here I am more than 30 years later bitching about the HORRIFIC Cleveland Gary non-fumble fumble call and arguing (rightly) that Miami was better than Irish in the year of its sole national title since the Cascades were pushed up by the plate. BCS and playoffs takes that away.RaceBannon said:The hatred was great. The fact that it was all or nothing made it greater
If they play today the loser could still make the playoffs
1988 Miami/Notre Dame
1991 Washington/Miami
1992 Colorado/Georgia Tech
A shitty offense, a "fumble", and a couple split titles. Those equal out to a lifetime of debate that will never end. Who won the title again last year? -
Colorado/GT was 1990theknowledge said:
1984 Washington/BYUcreepycoug said:
And look ... here I am more than 30 years later bitching about the HORRIFIC Cleveland Gary non-fumble fumble call and arguing (rightly) that Miami was better than Irish in the year of its sole national title since the Cascades were pushed up by the plate. BCS and playoffs takes that away.RaceBannon said:The hatred was great. The fact that it was all or nothing made it greater
If they play today the loser could still make the playoffs
1988 Miami/Notre Dame
1991 Washington/Miami
1992 Colorado/Georgia Tech
A shitty offense, a "fumble", and a couple split titles. Those equal out to a lifetime of debate that will never end. Who won the title again last year? -
A&M won't let Texas in the SEC they just wontwhatshouldicareabout said:Florida won't let FSU or Miami join the SEC, so it makes sense for the B1G to target them and get a foothold in the state.
The B1G is in the drivers set for establishing a new era of CFB, so it's chinteresting to see they're only talking about school revenue instead of attempted to leapfrog the SEC in terms of political power -
All cuougs on Twitter: "But there's just no reason for the B1G to take any teams! None! They're happy with just the LA schools! They have no reason to take UW and Oregon! It won't happen!"
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Thank you. You are correct.whatshouldicareabout said:
Colorado/GT was 1990theknowledge said:
1984 Washington/BYUcreepycoug said:
And look ... here I am more than 30 years later bitching about the HORRIFIC Cleveland Gary non-fumble fumble call and arguing (rightly) that Miami was better than Irish in the year of its sole national title since the Cascades were pushed up by the plate. BCS and playoffs takes that away.RaceBannon said:The hatred was great. The fact that it was all or nothing made it greater
If they play today the loser could still make the playoffs
1988 Miami/Notre Dame
1991 Washington/Miami
1992 Colorado/Georgia Tech
A shitty offense, a "fumble", and a couple split titles. Those equal out to a lifetime of debate that will never end. Who won the title again last year?
