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  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,922 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited June 2022
    Well, some of the of the flights to the Big 10 West are only about 45 minutes longer than the flight to Seattle (Omaha, Des Moines, Minneapolis). Chicago is a bit more than an hour more. Granted the drive from some of these airports is Coug esque with drives up to 2 hours. I have no clue if the regional airports can support larger planes. I assume yes but uncertain.

    Legit don't think this happens but scenarios like this are what keep the conversations rolling during the offseason. We are less than 70 days from the season which is exciting.

  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    LawDawg1 said:

    I would expect Oregon, Washington, and two of either Stanford/Cal/Arizona/ASU will be next.

    USC/UCLA can't even win the PAC 12 conference, how do they think they'll fare in the Big10?

    USC is so full of itself that it can’t see that it has been a major part of the Pac 12’s problems the past 10 years. Now they finally hire a real coach they bolt. Lol

    It's their AD. Everything changed once they hired Bohn.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    LawDawg1 said:

    I would expect Oregon, Washington, and two of either Stanford/Cal/Arizona/ASU will be next.

    USC/UCLA can't even win the PAC 12 conference, how do they think they'll fare in the Big10?

    USC is so full of itself that it can’t see that it has been a major part of the Pac 12’s problems the past 10 years. Now they finally hire a real coach they bolt. Lol

    Is Riley a "real coach"? From what I've seen, his teams play offense, but absolutely zero defense.
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,376
    Crisp play by the big 10, media right negotiations coming up, would it help if we add the LA TV market to our conference?

    It just might.


    I don’t think Trooj cares about winning but this new big 10 media deal gonna trump anything the p12 would get and then split.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,066 Founders Club
    edited June 2022

    Oregon fans, sell me on why a conference wants you? Very difficult stadium to get to, no TV market, track record of negative recruiting and going to throw money at kids to overpay recruits that just drives up the cost for everyone.

    Obviously Phil can buy them in but all his shit just benefits one program and fucks the others.

    Because Oregon cares about football, spends money, and has a national brand. Was that a serious question, or have you always been one of Haie's alt accounts?
    I'll give you the first one until Phil dies then everything is a question mark. Second one doesn't benefit anyone but them. Having a few incels on Twitter in Florida and signing non-region guys who get dropped by the blues in their region doesn't make you a national brand.

    Adding the LA schools opens up a new market for you eyeballs and recruiting wise. Maybe Seattle and the Bay Area does too. Oregon does nothing.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    So RIP Rose Bowl?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,432 Founders Club
    #WeAreAMountainWestSchool
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Oregon fans, sell me on why a conference wants you? Very difficult stadium to get to, no TV market, track record of negative recruiting and going to throw money at kids to overpay recruits that just drives up the cost for everyone.

    Obviously Phil can buy them in but all his shit just benefits one program and fucks the others.

    Because Oregon cares about football, spends money, and has a national brand. Was that a serious question, or have you always been one of Haie's alt accounts?
    I'll give you the first one until Phil dies then everything is a question mark. Second one doesn't benefit anyone but them. Having a few incels on Twitter in Florida and signing non-region guys who get dropped by the blues in their region doesn't make you a national brand.

    Adding the LA schools opens up a new market for you. Maybe Seattle and the Bay Area does. Oregon does nothing.
    How does a school spending money not help the conference? If Oregon is willing to continuously upgrade and pay for talented players, it only improves them competitively, and helps provide a stronger conference.

    Oregon still draws a solid national audience. You can pick or choose Cal or Stanford and get the Bay area. Washington gets you Seattle. Arizona or ASU gets you Phoenix, and Oregon gets you Portland. You can shit on Oregon's market all you want, but it's still larger than Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, and Nebraska.

    No brand?

    https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football-rankings/college-football-brands-ranking-according-to-high-school-recruits#gid=ci029cf7784000247a&pid=9-oregon-ducks
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club
    California insisted that USC and ucla play Cal and Stanford every year regardless of division

    They go too and that's your 16 teams

    I have zero interest in anything after that

    Roll Tide and fuck off
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    California insisted that USC and ucla play Cal and Stanford every year regardless of division

    They go too and that's your 16 teams

    I have zero interest in anything after that

    Roll Tide and fuck off

    They already have 14, so 14+4 is 18.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,745 Founders Club

    California insisted that USC and ucla play Cal and Stanford every year regardless of division

    They go too and that's your 16 teams

    I have zero interest in anything after that

    Roll Tide and fuck off

    They already have 14, so 14+4 is 18.
    OK that sounds like new math to me

    Good point though

    Still an issue
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    California insisted that USC and ucla play Cal and Stanford every year regardless of division

    They go too and that's your 16 teams

    I have zero interest in anything after that

    Roll Tide and fuck off

    They already have 14, so 14+4 is 18.
    OK that sounds like new math to me

    Good point though

    Still an issue
    If money is what matters, why let 16 or 18 the limit? If FOX is driving this to get back at ESPN, I can see them wanting to bring in other Pac-12 or ACC markets.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    Oregon fans, sell me on why a conference wants you? Very difficult stadium to get to, no TV market, track record of negative recruiting and going to throw money at kids to overpay recruits that just drives up the cost for everyone.

    Obviously Phil can buy them in but all his shit just benefits one program and fucks the others.

    I would say the fact that you mentioned Oregon, without a single quook saying word, is enough proof.

    But I’m sure you’ll continue to tie yourself into a knot anyway.

    Carry on…
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club

    Oregon fans, sell me on why a conference wants you? Very difficult stadium to get to, no TV market, track record of negative recruiting and going to throw money at kids to overpay recruits that just drives up the cost for everyone.

    Obviously Phil can buy them in but all his shit just benefits one program and fucks the others.

    Because Oregon cares about football, spends money, and has a national brand. Was that a serious question, or have you always been one of Haie's alt accounts?
    I'll give you the first one until Phil dies then everything is a question mark. Second one doesn't benefit anyone but them. Having a few incels on Twitter in Florida and signing non-region guys who get dropped by the blues in their region doesn't make you a national brand.

    Adding the LA schools opens up a new market for you. Maybe Seattle and the Bay Area does. Oregon does nothing.
    How does a school spending money not help the conference? If Oregon is willing to continuously upgrade and pay for talented players, it only improves them competitively, and helps provide a stronger conference.

    Oregon still draws a solid national audience. You can pick or choose Cal or Stanford and get the Bay area. Washington gets you Seattle. Arizona or ASU gets you Phoenix, and Oregon gets you Portland. You can shit on Oregon's market all you want, but it's still larger than Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, and Nebraska.

    No brand?

    https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football-rankings/college-football-brands-ranking-according-to-high-school-recruits#gid=ci029cf7784000247a&pid=9-oregon-ducks
    That FS article says Oregon's a top brand because "Mario Christobol built them into a contender and they have won the Pac 12 twice recently"