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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,269

    In a certain sense, this breaks my heart. All that tradition, all those years of looking forward to playing USC in the rain and battling for a Rose Bowl berth. *POOF*
    Agreed. I am more sad than anything. The only equivalent is Nebraska bailing on 100 years of playing their Great Plains rivals for the B1G.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,698
    The northwest rivalries, ease of traveling to an away game, tradition....this is what stings the most. On the other hand, the P12 has been trending down, home attendance not good, there are only a couple conference games that move the needle, so playing in a major conference might bring some life to seeing some big home games, and recruiting might improve. UW will need to get it's shit together for NIL though
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    dtd said:

    College football is for fags.

    DM'd you.
    I’m waiting.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    The college football is ruined crowd is loser talk. If we were a t
    dannarc said:

    The northwest rivalries, ease of traveling to an away game, tradition....this is what stings the most. On the other hand, the P12 has been trending down, home attendance not good, there are only a couple conference games that move the needle, so playing in a major conference might bring some life to seeing some big home games, and recruiting might improve. UW will need to get it's shit together for NIL though

    If Cohen is still the AD through and after this, that is a huge red flag. She probably called Pete on the phone crying when the news broke.
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,086 Founders Club
    dannarc said:

    The northwest rivalries, ease of traveling to an away game, tradition....this is what stings the most. On the other hand, the P12 has been trending down, home attendance not good, there are only a couple conference games that move the needle, so playing in a major conference might bring some life to seeing some big home games, and recruiting might improve. UW will need to get it's shit together for NIL though

    As much as we love a lot of things about the tradition of college football, some things have been breaking down, and not just in the Pac-12, and committing to the TV money and the five programs that are rolling is about the only sure thing the sport has, and even that seems short term to me.

    I remember talk about even some attendance issues at Alabama. I don't know if attendance issues will ever be resolved at USC and UW.

    I personally think taking away the regionalism of the sport will cause long-term problems and the eventual creation of essentially a minor league will keep future generations from not getting into college football.

    My biggest selling point would be just changing the name to the Saturday Football League and making the tagline "It's better to get drunk on Saturday."
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    Seems the plan is to continue to praise the Pac 12 and the lack of success UW has ever had but saying otherwise.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,630 Founders Club
    A lot of UW trying to sell itself in that statement.

    "close contact with leadership and peers...working together to examine options and opportunities"

    The Pac 10 knows they are fucked. UW, UO, Cal and Stanford are readying their joint sales pitch to the BIG. The LA schools will need closer conference competition for olympic sports. Say what you want but sending gymnastics, softball or Cross country etc. between 1500 and 3000 miles to compete on a weekly or bi-weekly basis is not sustainable for the athletes. Utah, UA, ASU and Colorado are all regional fits for the new Big 12. OSU and WSU will be begging for admittance to the Big 12 but will most likely be headed to the MWC. I could argue that the new MWC in that scenario would be a comparable football league to the Pac 10 in fan support, and university by-in.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    It’s over. If I had any enthusiasm, for college football and/or uw, it’s gone. No warning. Just gone.

    The game I fell in love with and everything that made it unique and special has been obliterated.

    It’s turning into NFL Lite.
    Just kill it and have minor leagues. The players will be able to negotiate salary and endorsement deals and finally get paid what they are worth vs being under the thumb of the man.
    We need the Saudis to help us sort this out.
    6 game season with each game being 3 quarters long

    Can you have 3 quarters? Wouldn't that be 3 thirds? What's the deal with that?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club

    dannarc said:

    The northwest rivalries, ease of traveling to an away game, tradition....this is what stings the most. On the other hand, the P12 has been trending down, home attendance not good, there are only a couple conference games that move the needle, so playing in a major conference might bring some life to seeing some big home games, and recruiting might improve. UW will need to get it's shit together for NIL though

    As much as we love a lot of things about the tradition of college football, some things have been breaking down, and not just in the Pac-12, and committing to the TV money and the five programs that are rolling is about the only sure thing the sport has, and even that seems short term to me.

    I remember talk about even some attendance issues at Alabama. I don't know if attendance issues will ever be resolved at USC and UW.

    I personally think taking away the regionalism of the sport will cause long-term problems and the eventual creation of essentially a minor league will keep future generations from not getting into college football.

    My biggest selling point would be just changing the name to the Saturday Football League and making the tagline "It's better to get drunk on Saturday."
    It didn't start breaking down until it was decided it needed to be changed because simple minded people couldn't fathom a champion through polling. Arguing about rankings is one of the things that made it fun.

    The downward spiral started with the BCS.

    You have no idea the damage ending the traditional Rose Bowl matchup did.
    BUT WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION!!!

    Sven was big on that. Just saying.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    Swaye said:

    I like that a bunch of Ducks just learned how unimportant they really are. Fox came calling and the only one that moved the needle was USC, and of course UCLA got the little brother pity invite. UW and Duck not part of the equation. I was under no illusions that UW sucks so no surprise there, but I love all the Ducks learning that they are worthless just like us.

    Just googled “straw man” and it sent me back here.

    Everyone understands exactly what just happened.

    I’m sorry we ruined your day at Disneyland. Move on.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    I like that a bunch of Ducks just learned how unimportant they really are. Fox came calling and the only one that moved the needle was USC, and of course UCLA got the little brother pity invite. UW and Duck not part of the equation. I was under no illusions that UW sucks so no surprise there, but I love all the Ducks learning that they are worthless just like us.

    Just googled “straw man” and it sent me back here.

    Everyone understands exactly what just happened.

    I’m sorry we ruined your day at Disneyland. Move on.
    lol

    Loser.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,192 Standard Supporter

    It’s over. If I had any enthusiasm, for college football and/or uw, it’s gone. No warning. Just gone.

    The game I fell in love with and everything that made it unique and special has been obliterated.

    It’s turning into NFL Lite.
    The NFL at least makes sense. And it’s at least fair and honest.

    College football is a steaming pile of illogical shit.
    TXDawg said:
    Nope. LA schools ghosted them which means they won't do any heavy lifting to get UW in to the B1G, either.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    I like that a bunch of Ducks just learned how unimportant they really are. Fox came calling and the only one that moved the needle was USC, and of course UCLA got the little brother pity invite. UW and Duck not part of the equation. I was under no illusions that UW sucks so no surprise there, but I love all the Ducks learning that they are worthless just like us.

    Just googled “straw man” and it sent me back here.

    Everyone understands exactly what just happened.

    I’m sorry we ruined your day at Disneyland. Move on.
    lol

    Loser.
    Sorry to hear imaginary quooks run wild in your head. Maybe see a psychiatrist.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    It’s over. If I had any enthusiasm, for college football and/or uw, it’s gone. No warning. Just gone.

    The game I fell in love with and everything that made it unique and special has been obliterated.

    It’s turning into NFL Lite.
    Just kill it and have minor leagues. The players will be able to negotiate salary and endorsement deals and finally get paid what they are worth vs being under the thumb of the man.
    We need the Saudis to help us sort this out.
    6 game season with each game being 3 quarters long

    Can you have 3 quarters? Wouldn't that be 3 thirds? What's the deal with that?
    Could have a division of the has beens: Washington, Miami, Nebraska, Colorado, Georgia Tech, Tennessee.
    Just need to add Army, Syracuse and Minnesota.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,036

    TXDawg said:

    TXDawg said:

    I can't wait to figure out what scrub teams the PAC-12 will recruit into the conference. Any predictions?

    If UW and Oregon manage to get a pity invite to the B1G the PAC will fold or become the new and improved MWC by bringing in the top-4 teams from the MWC. Hopefully the LA schools signaled this was coming to UW prior to it leaking or that's a really bad sign.
    I could see Oregon, but the second school would come out of Big 12. Baylor, Oklahoma State, maybe even Iowa State. They're not going to ask Washington to join. There not going to admit a team with a program and a fanbase in a death spiral. Even Utah probably has a better chance of getting in than Washington. We ain't such a big fish anymore.

    On the flip side, if Oregon doesn't get an invite because of us, that'll be our biggest win over them in 20 years.
    We made three straight New Years Bowls not very long ago. Washington is a traditional top 20 program and isn't in a death spiral. Calm down, Tex
    Really?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    Until this off season Oregon cared more than any west coast team

    The advantage of being USC is being USC. Crank up the dollars and the brand is back

    The Pac likes to break up dynasties. Fuck em