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BYU? Mormons make up less than 7 million in the US. Their program is not a national brand. And ND is not the only national brand that matters, by a long shot.WoolleyDoog said:
Define what you even mean by national brand and what it pays off for please?46XiJCAB said:
Rent free. Oregon is the only National Brand in the Pac-10.WoolleyDoog said:Oregon fans, sell me on why a conference wants you? Very difficult stadium to get to, no TV market, track record of negative recruiting and going to throw money at kids to overpay recruits that just drives up the cost for everyone.
Obviously Phil can buy them in but all his shit just benefits one program and fucks the others.
Notre Dame is the only national brand that really matters and it becomes more and more of a stretch by year. BYU weirdly maybe is the second closest.
Anyway, long-term, Washington's two likely outcomes are becoming the Northwestern/Vanderbilt of a super conference or becoming some kind of weird relic in a gloried Mountain West and taking the upper decks off of Husky Stadium. Let's hope it's the first option. Oregon continues to be the Dan Bilzerian of college football basically paying chicks to hang out and take pictures with them.
And I don't think Washington's future is to be the Vandy/Northwestern of any conference. Those are private schools with single digit admission numbers. Washington is still a state school, last I checked. It might someday be a Cal, but probably not.
You ask a good question: what is a national brand? IDK, and I haven't read anything elucidating on the question in this thread. If it's the general idea that people around the country are aware of and think about you as a strong and winning program, then a lot of schools have it. If it means you can recruit from any talent base, then a lot of schools have it. If it means you have a long and storied history, even if you've sucked recently/for a while, then a lot of schools have it.
In the Washington / Oregon context, what "brand" usually means is some Duck arguing that they occupy a more prominent role as a program than they used to and some DWAG trying to make the case that they are (a) WSU south or ASU north or (b) they're a paid-for Johnny Come Lately with no national respect. IOW, two people with loaded views on the subject. -
Yes, I'm sure the 14th vs. the 25th sized media market is going to be the primary driver here. Lolz.gmo said:
14th largest media market in the U.S.BleachedAnusDawg said:
UW has a media market. That's the only hope.TXDawg said:
I could see Oregon, but the second school would come out of Big 12. Baylor, Oklahoma State, maybe even Iowa State. They're not going to ask Washington to join. There not going to admit a team with a program and a fanbase in a death spiral. Even Utah probably has a better chance of getting in than Washington. We ain't such a big fish anymore.BleachedAnusDawg said:
If UW and Oregon manage to get a pity invite to the B1G the PAC will fold or become the new and improved MWC by bringing in the top-4 teams from the MWC. Hopefully the LA schools signaled this was coming to UW prior to it leaking or that's a really bad sign.TXDawg said:I can't wait to figure out what scrub teams the PAC-12 will recruit into the conference. Any predictions?
On the flip side, if Oregon doesn't get an invite because of us, that'll be our biggest win over them in 20 years.
TV revenue is a huge part of these moves. -
Congrats to Jen Cohen on leaping to the top of the worst Huskies ever list
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Oregon has more alumni in the Bay Area and LA than Portland at this point. And gets way more viewers from the Bay Area than cal + Stanford combined.
Maybe I’m getting soft, but I feel bad for coug and beav with how this is going to shake out. -
Its not over yet for the SWC!
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God. We? have truly fucked up such a wonderful, and heretofore simple, thing.picalogestabo said:Its not over yet for the SWC!
I'm going to have to find something else now. -
Substitute UW and Oregon with Utah and Colorado and they might have something. The good NW schools make no sense to the SW. Yes I still think UW is/can be good. Fuck off.picalogestabo said:Its not over yet for the SWC!
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If you can't handle the ups and downs of troll twitter accounts, you may need some perspectivecreepycoug said:
God. We? have truly fucked up such a wonderful, and heretofore simple, thing.picalogestabo said:Its not over yet for the SWC!
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