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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    As long as we agree he was very good his last year.

    And I don't see any reason to believe Sirmon is on any such trajectory so the comp is just bad in general.

    Not to mention Psalm neither played the position Sirmon/ BBK play nor did he ever accomplish anything close to BBK's senior year so that comp is nonsensical as well.

    Overall, awful comps but I'm glad we agree BBK was very good his senior year.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    FireCohen said:

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    Dude if we had BBK in 2019 we win 11+ games
    Weaknesses
    Lack of size will push him off some draft boards
    Low percentage of tackles on opponent's side of the ball
    Takes steep pursuit angles and can end up on low side
    Short arms show up with "just miss" tackle dives
    Slow to punch and plays away from blocker
    Downhill drift gets him trapped against counters
    Gives away run fit with attempts to elude blocks
    Must find a way to improve take-on leverage in the gap
    Needs more control in approach to tackle receivers in big spaces

    "That defensive line did a great job of protecting him so he could run around and make a bunch of plays. He's a fun player to watch, but I don't think the production translates." -- Scouting director for NFC team
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2021
    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    Damnedest Thing: When you can't get off the field, you gotta make more tackles.
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    FireCohen said:

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    Dude if we had BBK in 2019 we win 11+ games
    WMST. Wellington Manu Stress Disorder
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited September 2021

    FireCohen said:

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    Dude if we had BBK in 2019 we win 11+ games
    Weaknesses
    Lack of size will push him off some draft boards
    Low percentage of tackles on opponent's side of the ball
    Takes steep pursuit angles and can end up on low side
    Short arms show up with "just miss" tackle dives
    Slow to punch and plays away from blocker
    Downhill drift gets him trapped against counters
    Gives away run fit with attempts to elude blocks
    Must find a way to improve take-on leverage in the gap
    Needs more control in approach to tackle receivers in big spaces

    "That defensive line did a great job of protecting him so he could run around and make a bunch of plays. He's a fun player to watch, but I don't think the production translates." -- Scouting director for NFC team
    If you can't see 2019 would have been significantly better with an LB who went in the fifth round of the NFL draft than Kyler Manu/Brandon Wellington (or this team rather than Sirmon) then @GrandpaSankey can't help you.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2021
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    As long as we agree he was very good his last year.

    And I don't see any reason to believe Sirmon is on any such trajectory so the comp is just bad in general.

    Not to mention Psalm neither played the position Sirmon/ BBK play nor did he ever accomplish anything close to BBK's senior year so that comp is nonsensical as well.

    Overall, awful comps but I'm glad we agree BBK was very good his senior year.
    I'm not sure Psalm ever knew what position he was playing.

    The similarities were the athleticism and speed. At least I could tell what BBK was trying do. With Psalm, who knew half the time?

    PS, I'm not trying to shit on BBK here. His improvement was notable and it made him a much better player over time. I'd like to know where it came from, in hopes Sirmon and others can be similarly schooled out of their present bad habits and techniques.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    FireCohen said:

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    Dude if we had BBK in 2019 we win 11+ games
    Weaknesses
    Lack of size will push him off some draft boards
    Low percentage of tackles on opponent's side of the ball
    Takes steep pursuit angles and can end up on low side
    Short arms show up with "just miss" tackle dives
    Slow to punch and plays away from blocker
    Downhill drift gets him trapped against counters
    Gives away run fit with attempts to elude blocks
    Must find a way to improve take-on leverage in the gap
    Needs more control in approach to tackle receivers in big spaces

    "That defensive line did a great job of protecting him so he could run around and make a bunch of plays. He's a fun player to watch, but I don't think the production translates." -- Scouting director for NFC team
    Dude I am known for my shitty takes, but this take is beyond stupid. Did you not see Manu and Beefwellington play??
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    As long as we agree he was very good his last year.

    And I don't see any reason to believe Sirmon is on any such trajectory so the comp is just bad in general.

    Not to mention Psalm neither played the position Sirmon/ BBK play nor did he ever accomplish anything close to BBK's senior year so that comp is nonsensical as well.

    Overall, awful comps but I'm glad we agree BBK was very good his senior year.
    I'm not sure Psalm ever knew what position he was playing.

    The similarities were the athleticism and speed. At least I could tell what BBK was trying do. With Psalm, who knew half the time?

    PS, I'm not trying to shit on BBK here. His improvement was notable and it made him a much better player over time. I'd like to know where it came from, in hopes Sirmon and others can be similarly schooled out of their present bad habits and techniques.
    BBK always had elite speed and athleticism he just had to get stronger and better at knowing where to be. No LB on the current roster moves as well as BBK did from day one.

    I miss Azeem bringing the pain as much as anybody but BBK got a lot of crap for not immediately bringing down ballcarriers no other LB we've had in ten years would have ever touched. He was overrated by the media but massively underrated here.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,251
    Sancho said:













    Brutal live….worse on replay….am cutting my wrists seeing these screenshots
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited September 2021

    trublue said:

    Call him out then, “Mod”.

    Otherwise, fuck off!

    The stupid shit that emanates from his mouth daily . . . I must say his drunk poasting does add comedic value to the site . . .


    You just did . . . Kunt.

    My response, “Go FUCK yourself!” (along with your sidekicks), to wit: Fatters, PurpleBaze and dnc.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,616 Founders Club
    Having a guy like BBK in the umbrella defense was really important when you insist on playing your safeties 25 yards off the LOS. He was really fast and was able to minimize the big plays. He was almost more of a hybrid safety than a thumper LB and that works really well in this system. All the guys we have now are slow and can’t cover mistakes like BBK could. Just my two cents.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,251
    He’s slow….but at least he’s constantly out of position
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HuskyJW said:

    He’s slow….but at least he’s constantly out of position

    I know, right? @trublue should stay on dookc bored.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,293 Founders Club

    HuskyJW said:

    He’s slow….but at least he’s constantly out of position

    I know, right? @trublue should stay on dookc bored.

  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Man, with a draft report on BBK like that, it's no wonder the Huskies didn't win a single game in the NFC West in 2018.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    trublue said:

    trublue said:

    Call him out then, “Mod”.

    Otherwise, fuck off!

    The stupid shit that emanates from his mouth daily . . . I must say his drunk poasting does add comedic value to the site . . .


    You just did . . . Kunt.

    My response, “Go FUCK yourself!” (along with your sidekicks), to wit: Fatters, PurpleBaze and dnc.
    What kind of candy-ass pearl clutcher uses the word "kunt"?
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    HuskyJW said:

    He’s slow….but at least he’s constantly out of position

    I know, right? @trublue should stay on dookc bored.
    Hey sidekick, shut hole
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    trublue said:

    trublue said:

    Call him out then, “Mod”.

    Otherwise, fuck off!

    The stupid shit that emanates from his mouth daily . . . I must say his drunk poasting does add comedic value to the site . . .


    You just did . . . Kunt.

    My response, “Go FUCK yourself!” (along with your sidekicks), to wit: Fatters, PurpleBaze and dnc.
    HURTFUL
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    He really didn’t. He got dragged at times but he was always at least an above average PAC 12 LB, even as a sophomore. There aren’t many ways to run away from an ILB that plays sideline to sideline.

    When he was a junior there were posters that said he was only good because of Vea. Then when Vea left, he got even better. BBK bullshit was always strong group think led by Dennis.
    Roadie was first and right on BBK
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,648 Founders Club

    trublue said:

    Call him out then, “Mod”.

    Otherwise, fuck off!

    The stupid shit that emanates from his mouth daily . . . I must say his drunk poasting does add comedic value to the site . . .

    I have but again, his stupidity is opinion based. You muck up the boreds with inane historical bullshit that 99.9% of the world knows about while trying to pass it off as insightful.

    Besides that, I don’t spend tim on the Duck bored to view the majority of @haie’s shit poasting.

    Don’t give up hope though, at one point I was begging Stalin to make @backthepack the Friday sacrifice.
    Imagine calling a poster stupid and then fucking up the @.

    Retard fuck.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    FireCohen said:

    FireCohen said:

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    Dude if we had BBK in 2019 we win 11+ games
    Weaknesses
    Lack of size will push him off some draft boards
    Low percentage of tackles on opponent's side of the ball
    Takes steep pursuit angles and can end up on low side
    Short arms show up with "just miss" tackle dives
    Slow to punch and plays away from blocker
    Downhill drift gets him trapped against counters
    Gives away run fit with attempts to elude blocks
    Must find a way to improve take-on leverage in the gap
    Needs more control in approach to tackle receivers in big spaces

    "That defensive line did a great job of protecting him so he could run around and make a bunch of plays. He's a fun player to watch, but I don't think the production translates." -- Scouting director for NFC team
    Dude I am known for my shitty takes, but this take is beyond stupid. Did you not see Manu and Beefwellington play??
    So it's down to relativity. Or whataboutism (for the woke).

    Exhuming Manu and Wellington does not help your case. Sorry.

    It only demonstrates how far the LB corps at UW have fallen.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    He really didn’t. He got dragged at times but he was always at least an above average PAC 12 LB, even as a sophomore. There aren’t many ways to run away from an ILB that plays sideline to sideline.

    When he was a junior there were posters that said he was only good because of Vea. Then when Vea left, he got even better. BBK bullshit was always strong group think led by Dennis.
    Jesus Roady. What BBK were you watching? He never got dragged. He got carried. Literally. On RBs backs. Repeatedly. Especially on 3rd down.

    He was very good at getting to the play, but not at executing it, because he lacked the size, strength and tackling ability to finish guys off without help. He got better his final year after sizing up and improving his techniques.

    I'm sure it irks you, Roady, but DDY was right about BBK.

    DDY's head was firmly up his ass on plenty of stuff, but not BBK. Or Browning. Or our shitty receivers.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    He really didn’t. He got dragged at times but he was always at least an above average PAC 12 LB, even as a sophomore. There aren’t many ways to run away from an ILB that plays sideline to sideline.

    When he was a junior there were posters that said he was only good because of Vea. Then when Vea left, he got even better. BBK bullshit was always strong group think led by Dennis.
    Jesus Roady. What BBK were you watching? He never got dragged. He got carried. Literally. On RBs backs. Repeatedly. Especially on 3rd down.

    He was very good at getting to the play, but not at executing it, because he lacked the size, strength and tackling ability to finish guys off without help. He got better his final year after sizing up and improving his techniques.

    I'm sure it irks you, Roady, but DDY was right about BBK.

    DDY's head was firmly up his ass on plenty of stuff, but not BBK. Or Browning. Or our shitty receivers.
    I remember my criticizing the pac12 defensive player of the year days.

    He had his flaws but was a good player. End of story.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    Can we stop arguing over how good or bad BBK was and get back to discussing how dum @trublue is?

    So dumb he doesn’t even deserve the correct spelling of the word.

    Gladly. Just had to dispense with the sensitive woketivists first.

    Odd how expressing a negative opinion about a player generates so much worry and bruises so many egos.

    Perhaps some youngsters on these boreds are too invested in this mediocre program to see reality.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    trublue said:

    Hope this doesn’t muck up this thread because it’s “historical bullshit”:

    Total Tackles thru Week 4:
    Jackson Sirmon - 30
    No. 1 for UW
    Ranked 6th in the PAC-12 Conference

    CFetters: When you see me post, how about ignoring it or simply downvoting it? Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck about your critique. You’re a moderator.

    BBK and Psalm had great numbers too.

    Unfortunately they don't keep LB stats on how many YPC they allow versus should allow, if they were any good.

    Opposing RB YAC stats on BBK and Psalm were off the charts, also, as they piggybacked on RBs running by and over them for 8 YPC.
    BBK was very good, GTFO with this tired narrative.
    He spent two years overrunning the point of contact because he was fast, but not strong enough. When he could, he jumped on RBs backs a lot and got carried for several yards. He accumulated a lot of tackles, but gave up a lot of yards in critical situations.

    He became more disciplined over time, gained a few pounds and strength, and became more effective at pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket in his final year. His angles got better as did his technique as he focused more on interrupting the backfield than hooking the QB for an arm tackle sack as he flew by. He was never an LB that blew up plays or that teams ran away from. He was fast and athletic but nothing "very good" until his last year.
    He really didn’t. He got dragged at times but he was always at least an above average PAC 12 LB, even as a sophomore. There aren’t many ways to run away from an ILB that plays sideline to sideline.

    When he was a junior there were posters that said he was only good because of Vea. Then when Vea left, he got even better. BBK bullshit was always strong group think led by Dennis.
    Jesus Roady. What BBK were you watching? He never got dragged. He got carried. Literally. On RBs backs. Repeatedly. Especially on 3rd down.

    He was very good at getting to the play, but not at executing it, because he lacked the size, strength and tackling ability to finish guys off without help. He got better his final year after sizing up and improving his techniques.

    I'm sure it irks you, Roady, but DDY was right about BBK.

    DDY's head was firmly up his ass on plenty of stuff, but not BBK. Or Browning. Or our shitty receivers.
    I remember my criticizing the pac12 defensive player of the year days.

    He had his flaws but was a good player. End of story.
    Special teams broken leg of the weak guy on a shitty team, now.

    Some awards don't mean a lot.