Fuck yes cash in your 401-k have you been reading the headlines???
Funny - Saturday afternoon, Mrs. Throbber v2.0 and I were out for a drive and saw a billboard with the jackpot amount. "Hey, we should drop $10...we're gonna be rich!"
Got to the store and the line was out the door.
"Fuck it - don't want to wait. Not worth it".
There's a strangely 21st century American ethos tale in there somewhere.....
I like Delta and Alaska. Other US airlines can fuck off.
Yeah, I think there is a huge pent up demand for travel, so the airlines and hospitality industries will bounce back.
I’m not as convinced that business travel will ever return to pre-COVID levels though, but I’m by no means an expert.
Agree. Here at Orkin we are exploring greatly reduced air travel even in a post Covid world. For North American clients we have T&E built on top, but for the rest of the globe that came right out of hide in the contract. Someone in finance realized what our new margins are without travel, and the fact that new clients still pay the same whether we are going anywhere or not. Yeah, business travel will NEVER return to pre-Covid levels. Ever.
This is what all the corporate folks are saying. It will last until your competition meets customers face-to-face and steals them, and then everyone will be back in the air again.
I'm not giving my business to someone who won't meet with me in person, and I think a lot of people are like that. Fuck Zoom meetings. Air travel isn't something a company wants to spend money on but they're going to find out you have to if you want to be a winner.
I went to Shelton High School and have a lowly bachelor's degree in Econ from lowly UW, though. so you may hear differently from the MBA holders about this.
I like Delta and Alaska. Other US airlines can fuck off.
Yeah, I think there is a huge pent up demand for travel, so the airlines and hospitality industries will bounce back.
I’m not as convinced that business travel will ever return to pre-COVID levels though, but I’m by no means an expert.
Agree. Here at Orkin we are exploring greatly reduced air travel even in a post Covid world. For North American clients we have T&E built on top, but for the rest of the globe that came right out of hide in the contract. Someone in finance realized what our new margins are without travel, and the fact that new clients still pay the same whether we are going anywhere or not. Yeah, business travel will NEVER return to pre-Covid levels. Ever.
This is what all the corporate folks are saying. It will last until your competition meets customers face-to-face and steals them, and then everyone will be back in the air again.
I'm not giving my business to someone who won't meet with me in person, and I think a lot of people are like that. Fuck Zoom meetings. Air travel isn't something a company wants to spend money on but they're going to find out you have to if you want to be a winner.
I went to Shelton High School and have a lowly bachelor's degree in Econ from lowly UW, though. so you may hear differently from the MBA holders about this.
As the guy who actually writes the checks....disagree.
Don't waste my time with shit - tell me what your product does, how much it costs and how it can save/earn me money.
MS Team forever. Saves kicking lowlifes out of the office. Ooops...lost internet connection. Well, bye.
I like Delta and Alaska. Other US airlines can fuck off.
Yeah, I think there is a huge pent up demand for travel, so the airlines and hospitality industries will bounce back.
I’m not as convinced that business travel will ever return to pre-COVID levels though, but I’m by no means an expert.
Agree. Here at Orkin we are exploring greatly reduced air travel even in a post Covid world. For North American clients we have T&E built on top, but for the rest of the globe that came right out of hide in the contract. Someone in finance realized what our new margins are without travel, and the fact that new clients still pay the same whether we are going anywhere or not. Yeah, business travel will NEVER return to pre-Covid levels. Ever.
This is what all the corporate folks are saying. It will last until your competition meets customers face-to-face and steals them, and then everyone will be back in the air again.
I'm not giving my business to someone who won't meet with me in person, and I think a lot of people are like that. Fuck Zoom meetings. Air travel isn't something a company wants to spend money on but they're going to find out you have to if you want to be a winner.
I went to Shelton High School and have a lowly bachelor's degree in Econ from lowly UW, though. so you may hear differently from the MBA holders about this.
As the guy who actually writes the checks....disagree.
Don't waste my time with shit - tell me what your product does, how much it costs and how it can save/earn me money.
MS Team forever. Saves kicking lowlifes out of the office. Ooops...lost internet connection. Well, bye.
And, on the other hand, I do think leisure travel is going to go through the roof. Pent up demand and all - but just as above, I can do bidness from wherever I want and just change my Teams background. So, yes, you think I'm in my office - I'm actually at beach resort getting ready to lose internet connection so I can go down to the pool and knock back fruity umbrella drinks and creep on scantily clad milfs.
I like Delta and Alaska. Other US airlines can fuck off.
Yeah, I think there is a huge pent up demand for travel, so the airlines and hospitality industries will bounce back.
I’m not as convinced that business travel will ever return to pre-COVID levels though, but I’m by no means an expert.
Agree. Here at Orkin we are exploring greatly reduced air travel even in a post Covid world. For North American clients we have T&E built on top, but for the rest of the globe that came right out of hide in the contract. Someone in finance realized what our new margins are without travel, and the fact that new clients still pay the same whether we are going anywhere or not. Yeah, business travel will NEVER return to pre-Covid levels. Ever.
This is what all the corporate folks are saying. It will last until your competition meets customers face-to-face and steals them, and then everyone will be back in the air again.
I'm not giving my business to someone who won't meet with me in person, and I think a lot of people are like that. Fuck Zoom meetings. Air travel isn't something a company wants to spend money on but they're going to find out you have to if you want to be a winner.
I went to Shelton High School and have a lowly bachelor's degree in Econ from lowly UW, though. so you may hear differently from the MBA holders about this.
I thought you went to Shelton Country Day School, where you started the fad of wearing pink Vineyard Vines shorts and the untucked seafoam green oxford.
Are we talking about airline service levels or airline financial performance?
Good services levels do not necessarily lead to good financial results. Southwest has been the financial bell cow of the industry for 40 years and doesn't give you food or first class. Allegiant does quite well without many of the amenities that others have. I agree that Delta and Alaska are solid airlines in terms of service and they happen to be among the best managed airlines. (Hey look, Alaska's top two leaders have certificates/degrees from Foster)
There is a ton of international pent up leisure demand which will be unleashed when borders open up. Business travel though is going to take longer.
Are we talking about airline service levels or airline financial performance?
Good services levels do not necessarily lead to good financial results. Southwest has been the financial bell cow of the industry for 40 years and doesn't give you food or first class. Allegiant does quite well without many of the amenities that others have. I agree that Delta and Alaska are solid airlines in terms of service and they happen to be among the best managed airlines. (Hey look, Alaska's top two leaders have certificates/degrees from Foster)
There is a ton of international pent up leisure demand which will be unleashed when borders open up. Business travel though is going to take longer.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
I hear you. I'm not in a hurry to get the vax; but I (we) are also not anti-vax. I just want to see it roll out for a while. I've never wanted to be the canary.
The anti-vax group is a chintresting one. They seem to cross the political spectrum. I know people who are fairly described as close to alt-right and people who border on collectivism who won't touch a vax and will argue with you about it all day if you let them.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
I hear you. I'm not in a hurry to get the vax; but I (we) are also not anti-vax. I just want to see it roll out for a while. I've never wanted to be the canary.
The anti-vax group is a chintresting one. They seem to cross the political spectrum. I know people who are fairly described as close to alt-right and people who border on collectivism who won't touch a vax and will argue with you about it all day if you let them.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
I hear you. I'm not in a hurry to get the vax; but I (we) are also not anti-vax. I just want to see it roll out for a while. I've never wanted to be the canary.
The anti-vax group is a chintresting one. They seem to cross the political spectrum. I know people who are fairly described as close to alt-right and people who border on collectivism who won't touch a vax and will argue with you about it all day if you let them.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
I hear you. I'm not in a hurry to get the vax; but I (we) are also not anti-vax. I just want to see it roll out for a while. I've never wanted to be the canary.
The anti-vax group is a chintresting one. They seem to cross the political spectrum. I know people who are fairly described as close to alt-right and people who border on collectivism who won't touch a vax and will argue with you about it all day if you let them.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
I hear you. I'm not in a hurry to get the vax; but I (we) are also not anti-vax. I just want to see it roll out for a while. I've never wanted to be the canary.
The anti-vax group is a chintresting one. They seem to cross the political spectrum. I know people who are fairly described as close to alt-right and people who border on collectivism who won't touch a vax and will argue with you about it all day if you let them.
Because its personal not political
And this fast of a vaccine is new
Contrary to popular opinion, I'm not anti-vaxx either. I just want to reserve the right to be skeptical and ask (uncomfortable) questions.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
I hear you. I'm not in a hurry to get the vax; but I (we) are also not anti-vax. I just want to see it roll out for a while. I've never wanted to be the canary.
The anti-vax group is a chintresting one. They seem to cross the political spectrum. I know people who are fairly described as close to alt-right and people who border on collectivism who won't touch a vax and will argue with you about it all day if you let them.
Pretty sure it's standard practice for international travel to verify vaccinations against or non-carrier of certain diseases. Don't really pay that much attention to it - but obviously, if you're going to the jungle of deepest darkest Africa (ISAFNRC), you'd want to be up on getting all your bug shots.
For domestic travel, they can fuck the fuck off with demanding vaccination records. Take my temperature when i get on the plane and STFU about any other medical inquiries. If it's good enough for the engine casinos, it's good enough to jump on a flight.
If you follow the gab.com, it's been reported that there's about 3% severe allergic reaction to the vaccine in the UK - including anaphylactic shock and death. But that ain't getting any play from the MSM because it's not worse than Watergate.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
They aren’t going to require proof of vax unless they find that is required to get people to travel in the first place.
Now governments on the other hand is a whole different story. I expect negative tests to be required for international travel for a while and possibly proof of vax. It’s not uncommon for this today- travel in and out of regions with yellow fever requires proof of a vaccine, which I’ve had and carry the “yellow card” with me. But usually for American travelers no one cares.
And that will probably be one of the biggest travel changes with COVID. Show up at passport control in any country, US passport in hand, and off you went, especially if you looked the part. Now the US is that dirty country where Covid spread out of control. No more zipping through at Heathrow or Frankfurt; we’ll be in line with the masses from SE Asia as we get investigated to ensure we’re not bringing nasty shit in. That will suck and I will have my vaccine proof with me in order to keep moving.
Are airlines really going to be stupid enough to require proof of vaccination? I, and many others I know, will not fly if that's the case. We just won't.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
They aren’t going to require proof of vax unless they find that is required to get people to travel in the first place.
Now governments on the other hand is a whole different story. I expect negative tests to be required for international travel for a while and possibly proof of vax. It’s not uncommon for this today- travel in and out of regions with yellow fever requires proof of a vaccine, which I’ve had and carry the “yellow card” with me. But usually for American travelers no one cares.
And that will probably be one of the biggest travel changes with COVID. Show up at passport control in any country, US passport in hand, and off you went, especially if you looked the part. Now the US is that dirty country where Covid spread out of control. No more zipping through at Heathrow or Frankfurt; we’ll be in line with the masses from SE Asia as we get investigated to ensure we’re not bringing nasty shit in. That will suck and I will have my vaccine proof with me in order to keep moving.
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Got to the store and the line was out the door.
"Fuck it - don't want to wait. Not worth it".
There's a strangely 21st century American ethos tale in there somewhere.....
I'm not giving my business to someone who won't meet with me in person, and I think a lot of people are like that. Fuck Zoom meetings. Air travel isn't something a company wants to spend money on but they're going to find out you have to if you want to be a winner.
I went to Shelton High School and have a lowly bachelor's degree in Econ from lowly UW, though. so you may hear differently from the MBA holders about this.
If you're not willing to risk death for my business you don't want it bad enough
Don't waste my time with shit - tell me what your product does, how much it costs and how it can save/earn me money.
MS Team forever. Saves kicking lowlifes out of the office. Ooops...lost internet connection. Well, bye.
In fact, have already done that.
My entire image of you has changed man.
Good services levels do not necessarily lead to good financial results. Southwest has been the financial bell cow of the industry for 40 years and doesn't give you food or first class. Allegiant does quite well without many of the amenities that others have. I agree that Delta and Alaska are solid airlines in terms of service and they happen to be among the best managed airlines. (Hey look, Alaska's top two leaders have certificates/degrees from Foster)
There is a ton of international pent up leisure demand which will be unleashed when borders open up. Business travel though is going to take longer.
Quasi-tug comment, but relevant.
The anti-vax group is a chintresting one. They seem to cross the political spectrum. I know people who are fairly described as close to alt-right and people who border on collectivism who won't touch a vax and will argue with you about it all day if you let them.
And this fast of a vaccine is new
He makes some good poonts.
For domestic travel, they can fuck the fuck off with demanding vaccination records. Take my temperature when i get on the plane and STFU about any other medical inquiries. If it's good enough for the engine casinos, it's good enough to jump on a flight.
#takeittothetug
#tiptoeuptotheline
Now governments on the other hand is a whole different story. I expect negative tests to be required for international travel for a while and possibly proof of vax. It’s not uncommon for this today- travel in and out of regions with yellow fever requires proof of a vaccine, which I’ve had and carry the “yellow card” with me. But usually for American travelers no one cares.
And that will probably be one of the biggest travel changes with COVID. Show up at passport control in any country, US passport in hand, and off you went, especially if you looked the part. Now the US is that dirty country where Covid spread out of control. No more zipping through at Heathrow or Frankfurt; we’ll be in line with the masses from SE Asia as we get investigated to ensure we’re not bringing nasty shit in. That will suck and I will have my vaccine proof with me in order to keep moving.
At least coming back home.