3 named sources have all now gone on the record calling you a lying dipshit IC
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Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true. -
I already said it’s bullshit two days ago. Of course it’s Fake News. Not even the Rat Media is pushing it today because it’s so unbelievable. Do you agree with Pelosi on federal officers being “stormtroopers,” Fraud?HHusky said:
Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true. -
He was spotted at Epstein’s parties just couple of years ago with good boy billy ClintonUW_Doog_Bot said:Anonymous sources have informed me that Joe Biden has molested at least 3 under age minors.
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That's not a denial!!!!NorthwestFresh said:
I already said it’s bullshit two days ago. Of course it’s Fake News. Not even the Rat Media is pushing it today because it’s so unbelievable. Do you agree with Pelosi on federal officers being “stormtroopers,” Fraud?HHusky said:
Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true. -
Dazzler suiting up in the road fucktard uni for the weekend series.
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This entire thread was started with the 3rd person willing to go on the record and refute that Trump ever said what the Atlantic claims he said. That number is now closer to a dozen. But according to the Dazzler, none of us have denied that Trump said it.
Fucking liar and moron. Good work Dazzler. -
Atta girl! Who had Olga in the first to lie pool?NorthwestFresh said:
I already said it’s bullshit two days ago. Of course it’s Fake News. Not even the Rat Media is pushing it today because it’s so unbelievable. Do you agree with Pelosi on federal officers being “stormtroopers,” Fraud?HHusky said:
Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true.
It's not remotely unbelievable. It frightens you because it's very believable.
I have no problem with the stormtrooper label. It is what it is. -
There it is. Thank you. You believe it to be true because you’re projecting your own dipshit opinions on Trump. That was easy. Good luck with the liver disease.HHusky said:
I have no problem with the stormtrooper label. It is what it is.NorthwestFresh said:
I already said it’s bullshit two days ago. Of course it’s Fake News. Not even the Rat Media is pushing it today because it’s so unbelievable. Do you agree with Pelosi on federal officers being “stormtroopers,” Fraud?HHusky said:
Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true.
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Saw the pictures on my teevee, Ludmilla.NorthwestFresh said:
There it is. Thank you. You believe it to be true because you’re projecting your own dipshit opinions on Trump. That was easy. Good luck with the liver disease.HHusky said:
I have no problem with the stormtrooper label. It is what it is.NorthwestFresh said:
I already said it’s bullshit two days ago. Of course it’s Fake News. Not even the Rat Media is pushing it today because it’s so unbelievable. Do you agree with Pelosi on federal officers being “stormtroopers,” Fraud?HHusky said:
Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true.
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I already got it. You feel federal officers are Nazis. You can keep repeating it if you’d like.HHusky said:
Saw the pictures on my teevee, Ludmilla.NorthwestFresh said:
There it is. Thank you. You believe it to be true because you’re projecting your own dipshit opinions on Trump. That was easy. Good luck with the liver disease.HHusky said:
I have no problem with the stormtrooper label. It is what it is.NorthwestFresh said:
I already said it’s bullshit two days ago. Of course it’s Fake News. Not even the Rat Media is pushing it today because it’s so unbelievable. Do you agree with Pelosi on federal officers being “stormtroopers,” Fraud?HHusky said:
Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true.
When did Marcos become the POTUS? -
I guess you need an education on the term "stormtrooper" too.NorthwestFresh said:
I already got it. You feel federal officers are Nazis. You can keep repeating it if you’d like.HHusky said:
Saw the pictures on my teevee, Ludmilla.NorthwestFresh said:
There it is. Thank you. You believe it to be true because you’re projecting your own dipshit opinions on Trump. That was easy. Good luck with the liver disease.HHusky said:
I have no problem with the stormtrooper label. It is what it is.NorthwestFresh said:
I already said it’s bullshit two days ago. Of course it’s Fake News. Not even the Rat Media is pushing it today because it’s so unbelievable. Do you agree with Pelosi on federal officers being “stormtroopers,” Fraud?HHusky said:
Still no denial.NorthwestFresh said:
Krusty and DuckNow spent three years pushing unsourced Russian Collusion dossier bullshit.SFGbob said:
What did he say? That he didn't want to go to the cemetery because he was worried about getting his hair wet? Because the very next day he gave a speech at a cemetery and it was raining and his hair got wet? I don't believe Trump said it. Kelley is Marine. I don't believe he was have remained silent if Trump had called Marines KIA loser. What I do believe is idiots like you would jump all over un-sourced slander.HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
You know he has admitted he’s OK with lying to advance the liberal agenda. He’s a troll who pretends he runs some successful business when it’s obvious that can’t possibly be true. He’s a lying troll. Internet is full of them. He sucks at it though. Lacks the intelligence. At least DuckNow had his own thoughts, dumb as they were.
Thanks for making my point . . . over and over.
In actuality, we all think the Atlantic story is true.
When did Marcos become the POTUS? -
Stop projecting Soy Toy.HHusky said:
You believe Daddy said it, Mall Cop. And we both know it doesn't affect your vote.Sledog said:
We? You have a mouse in your pocket?HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
He was there consuelo. A witness (actually a hostile witness) to the alleged event that didn't happen.
Maybe you've heard of witnesses? -
Mall Cop isn't willing to go as far as Ivan.Sledog said:
Stop projecting Soy Toy.HHusky said:
You believe Daddy said it, Mall Cop. And we both know it doesn't affect your vote.Sledog said:
We? You have a mouse in your pocket?HHusky said:
Bolton didn’t hear it. That might be true.Sledog said:Bolton, no lover of Trump, says it didn't happen.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/04/pollak-the-stunning-synergy-of-the-atlantics-anonymous-attack-on-president-donald-trump/
But we all believe Daddy said it. It isn’t going to change your vote.
He was there consuelo. A witness (actually a hostile witness) to the alleged event that didn't happen.
Maybe you've heard of witnesses? -
NeverTrumper Griffin has imaginary “unimpeachable” sources.
Meanwhile almost a dozen people with Trump that day are now on record saying they didn’t hear him say it. Fake News has zero credibility.
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The entire story is prefaced on a lie. Trump didn't want to go to the cemetery because it was raining and he was worried about his hair. They've already shown that claim is crap and that the trip was scratched due to weather and that Trump spoke the very next day at a cemetery in Paris, in the rain. So we know that part of the story is crap. But we're supposed to believe the other parts of the story despite the fact that no one is willing to go on the record in support of it.NorthwestFresh said:NeverTrumper Griffin has imaginary “unimpeachable” sources.
Meanwhile almost a dozen people with Trump that day are now on record saying they didn’t hear him say it. Fake News has zero credibility.
And because Dazzler is a dishonest moron he thinks that no one here has denied Trump said it. -
Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked -
Bolton said that if he heard Trump say this he would have wrote an entire chapter in his book about it.
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Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked -
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality. -
I didn't say the problems are all on one side, but if you can find an example for me of the GOP doing something that comes even close to what the Rats did Kavanaugh, or Harry Reid knowingly lying and claiming Romney hadn't paid his taxes I'd like to see it.Tequilla said:
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality. -
Lie after lie after lie, but she does project and explain how Democrats and their media stormtroopers merchandise these smears in coordination with each other.
https://youtu.be/GMBeUORJWj4 -
Sure seems like a man to call deceased soldiers “suckers.”
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All the GOP media outlets like CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NBC, ABC, CBS, ESPN, Disney, MSN, Facebook, Twitter are saying bad things about the dems! Oh wait........
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Not really interested in playing the which side is worse than the other gameSFGbob said:
I didn't say the problems are all on one side, but if you can find an example for me of the GOP doing something that comes even close to what the Rats did Kavanaugh, or Harry Reid knowingly lying and claiming Romney hadn't paid his taxes I'd like to see it.Tequilla said:
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality. -
What lies has Drumpf said about Biden based on anonymous sources? He occasionally talks about Joe, yet all Biden seems to be focused on is Trump and making ads based on no sources in coordination with the Dem media stormtroopersTequilla said:
Not really interested in playing the which side is worse than the other gameSFGbob said:
I didn't say the problems are all on one side, but if you can find an example for me of the GOP doing something that comes even close to what the Rats did Kavanaugh, or Harry Reid knowingly lying and claiming Romney hadn't paid his taxes I'd like to see it.Tequilla said:
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality. -
If you stand for nothing, Burr, what will you fall for?Tequilla said:
Not really interested in playing the which side is worse than the other gameSFGbob said:
I didn't say the problems are all on one side, but if you can find an example for me of the GOP doing something that comes even close to what the Rats did Kavanaugh, or Harry Reid knowingly lying and claiming Romney hadn't paid his taxes I'd like to see it.Tequilla said:
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality.
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Centrists...PurpleThrobber said:
If you stand for nothing, Burr, what will you fall for?Tequilla said:
Not really interested in playing the which side is worse than the other gameSFGbob said:
I didn't say the problems are all on one side, but if you can find an example for me of the GOP doing something that comes even close to what the Rats did Kavanaugh, or Harry Reid knowingly lying and claiming Romney hadn't paid his taxes I'd like to see it.Tequilla said:
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality. -
Biden is using the anonymous source Trump hates the military as we speak.
But dems are pieces of shit. -
The left has now made "both sides" a meme. So you are the enemy to them.Tequilla said:
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality. -
That's absolute and total bullshitPitchfork51 said:
The left has now made "both sides" a meme. So you are the enemy to them.Tequilla said:
Definitely not interested in a pissing match on which side is more righteous than the other at this pointSFGbob said:
Both sides may be rotten but I've yet to see the GOP do anything as sleazy and dishonest as what the Rats did to Kavanaugh. There is zero integrity on the left there is some among conservatives.Tequilla said:Fair warning, sizeable rant coming ...
I was talking with my Dad last night and he made a great point regarding disinformation and that being that if you're accused of something that is pure BS, how do you defend yourself against it? In the end, it's a he said she said type situation right?
And in a nutshell, this is a large contributing factor to why our country is so fucked right now ...
Politics in general is more corrupt than it has ever been. There was a documentary on HBO titled "The Swamp" that I think just came out that wasn't super enlightening from a "I can't believe this happens" to having a better understand of how prevalent and how easily veiled threats basically result in the parties controlling everything. It's why we have the polarized party lines and really not a ton of bipartisan activities.
When you think about things in those terms, it makes someone like Biden as a (frontrunner) Presidential candidate make a ton of sense. It isn't about Biden at this point. It's about having someone that runs that can be completely controlled by the party insiders.
The PACs are beyond out of control and the influence of big money in politics creates a blatant conflict of interest. Roll everything up and it's so easy to understand the whole thing is rotting at its core.
And let me be clear, the rotting isn't from one side or the other. Both sides are rotted and the reality is that the primary difference is that it's just different game plans and execution traits.
Reality at this point is nobody knows what to believe. It's all about pollution of news and information to confuse. We jump on what we see in social media but it's almost always lacking in context and full of people trying to catch people in gotcha moments designed to distort reality. Actual journalism and reporting of truth is largely gone. News networks are really just political propaganda arms on both sides.
TL, DR version = we're fucked
My point is that there's issues on both sides and part of the problem right now is that both sides are really quick to blame the other side for all the problems. It's not accurate. Both sides in various forms have massive warts.
I would tend to agree with you that I think that right has a little more integrity left to them at this point. But I'm also not going to default to some kind of illusions that the problems are all on one side ... just not reality.
Things are never as good as they seem ... never as bad as they seem
Our political environment is not because one side has completely fucked everything over and the other is pristine and beyond approach.
The reality is that I'd argue that the last President that we had that was widely viewed positively by both sides of the aisle was Reagan ... and he left office over 30 years ago. Before that? Probably going back to Ike? Nixon won in a landslide ... and we know how that all worked out. We've been largely void of strong leaders for a while and desperately need one again.
It'd be great to have a slam dunk candidate ... the partisanship is rotting the country
