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I'm hoping he is third string behind Latu. I guess we will see.
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And that's where you continue to be wrong. Show me a California 3-star RB you think is better than Sunday. Show me California 3-star ILB you think is better than McDonald. There aren't any. I like McDonald more than I like Bruener's scrawny ass. Our coaches feel like those two guys are better than the 3-star West coast options available to them and that's why they recruited them. If there were better options in California that wanted to come here they would have taken them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yes, you do seem to be missing the point. No one is arguing about top tier elite talent. We are arguing about spending a ton of resources on acquiring 1-2 depth players per year out of Texas when we could fairly easily pull that out of a state like California where we are already beginning to dominate recruiting.StrongArmCobra said:
Am I missing something? We have a shit load of West Coast elite talented committed to us right now and more to come. Were you expecting UW to get every single one of them before they have even won a fucking bowl game against a team with a pulse yet? Some people just like to bitch. We've got it pretty damn good right now.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Good thing we aren't discussing top targets or elite talent but 1-2 depth players.StrongArmCobra said:
I already have. We've never heard from any West coast recruit that didn't come here that UW wasn't recruiting him hard. Our coaches recruit their top West coast targets hard as fuck. We can go down the list and the kid either wasn't interested, was interested but got cooled on by UW, or is looking to get paid. None of them would have committed here if UW wasn't recruiting Texas. That's fucking stupid.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Prove we didn't miss on guys because of recruiting Texas. You can't! Therefore it's true.StrongArmCobra said:
Name the exact recruits they have missed on because they recruited Texas. You can't, because it's retarded ass logic. At this point in our recruiting, the guys they "miss" on are guys that either weren't highly interested in UW from the very beginning or are looking to get paid. That's it. Guys like Flowe and Ransom weren't highly interested from the very beginning which is inevitable no matter how good the program is and a guy like Ringo is looking for money and we don't pay. We are NOT MISSING any West coast recruits because the coaches didn't put enough time in recruiting them. That is not something that is happening. Shut the fuck up.Houhusky said:Glad you could bring the AIDS to what is a decent thread.
Every single recruit out West that UW wanted and missed on was because they are "making an investment" recruiting Texas. Every single one. They clearly do not have enough time to recruit both the West region and Texas.... Damn its fun to make both wrong, overly definitive, and impossible to prove/disprove statements... Now I get it.StrongArmCobra said:There isn't a single recruit out West that UW wanted and would have gotten had they not "wasted time" recruiting Texas. Not a single one. They clearly have enough time to recruit both the West region and Texas.
"hidden gems" is this NCAA 14 or something?StrongArmCobra said:If our hidden gems are coming from WA, CA, and TX that's fine with me. If you can create a bigger pool of hidden gems and select the top hidden gems from that larger pool of recruits, then the hidden gems you're getting have a better chance of panning out. For instance, there was no hidden gem offensive lineman on the West coast better than Victor Curne in his class. There is no hidden gem RB out West this class better than Jay'Veon Sunday. Those guys are upgrades over West coast guys we would have had to take had we not recruited Texas.
Filling out an opening or two in the bottom of the class with high ceiling/low cost recruit is fine. Its extremely difficult in a state like Texas because you either have to spend a lot of resources finding that overlooked "gem" that every other schools in the country somehow missed (because everyone looks at Texas) OR you have to recruit directly against a school with a massive recruiting advantage.
And yeah, Texas is one of the most talented states in the country. We can find and sign Texas recruits who have NFL talent. We might not be able to beat Texas and A&M for guys but we can beat TCU and Houston and Baylor and Oklahoma State for guys who would have been NFL draft pick for them but become NFL draft picks for us.
It's called proving a fucking negative.
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We are extremely thin so Rice ius likely to get some run by default whether or not he is any good.Penace said:I'm hoping he is third string behind Latu. I guess we will see.
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He won't be. Not saying Latu won't play but he doesn't have the trust of the coaches in terms of knowledge of the game and technique yet that Rice does.Penace said:I'm hoping he is third string behind Latu. I guess we will see.
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He's not gonna play by default. He's good. He can play and make plays this season. He's not getting past up by the younger guys. Enjoy the pleasant surprise of Rice making plays when the season rolls around but it won't surprise me.FremontTroll said:
We are extremely thin so Rice ius likely to get some run by default whether or not he is any good.Penace said:I'm hoping he is third string behind Latu. I guess we will see.
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The proper analysis isStrongArmCobra said:
And that's where you continue to be wrong. Show me a California 3-star RB you think is better than Sunday. Show me California 3-star ILB you think is better than McDonald. There aren't any. I like McDonald more than I like Bruener's scrawny ass. Our coaches feel like those two guys are better than the 3-star West coast options available to them and that's why they recruited them. If there were better options in California that wanted to come here they would have taken them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yes, you do seem to be missing the point. No one is arguing about top tier elite talent. We are arguing about spending a ton of resources on acquiring 1-2 depth players per year out of Texas when we could fairly easily pull that out of a state like California where we are already beginning to dominate recruiting.StrongArmCobra said:
Am I missing something? We have a shit load of West Coast elite talented committed to us right now and more to come. Were you expecting UW to get every single one of them before they have even won a fucking bowl game against a team with a pulse yet? Some people just like to bitch. We've got it pretty damn good right now.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Good thing we aren't discussing top targets or elite talent but 1-2 depth players.StrongArmCobra said:
I already have. We've never heard from any West coast recruit that didn't come here that UW wasn't recruiting him hard. Our coaches recruit their top West coast targets hard as fuck. We can go down the list and the kid either wasn't interested, was interested but got cooled on by UW, or is looking to get paid. None of them would have committed here if UW wasn't recruiting Texas. That's fucking stupid.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Prove we didn't miss on guys because of recruiting Texas. You can't! Therefore it's true.StrongArmCobra said:
Name the exact recruits they have missed on because they recruited Texas. You can't, because it's retarded ass logic. At this point in our recruiting, the guys they "miss" on are guys that either weren't highly interested in UW from the very beginning or are looking to get paid. That's it. Guys like Flowe and Ransom weren't highly interested from the very beginning which is inevitable no matter how good the program is and a guy like Ringo is looking for money and we don't pay. We are NOT MISSING any West coast recruits because the coaches didn't put enough time in recruiting them. That is not something that is happening. Shut the fuck up.Houhusky said:Glad you could bring the AIDS to what is a decent thread.
Every single recruit out West that UW wanted and missed on was because they are "making an investment" recruiting Texas. Every single one. They clearly do not have enough time to recruit both the West region and Texas.... Damn its fun to make both wrong, overly definitive, and impossible to prove/disprove statements... Now I get it.StrongArmCobra said:There isn't a single recruit out West that UW wanted and would have gotten had they not "wasted time" recruiting Texas. Not a single one. They clearly have enough time to recruit both the West region and Texas.
"hidden gems" is this NCAA 14 or something?StrongArmCobra said:If our hidden gems are coming from WA, CA, and TX that's fine with me. If you can create a bigger pool of hidden gems and select the top hidden gems from that larger pool of recruits, then the hidden gems you're getting have a better chance of panning out. For instance, there was no hidden gem offensive lineman on the West coast better than Victor Curne in his class. There is no hidden gem RB out West this class better than Jay'Veon Sunday. Those guys are upgrades over West coast guys we would have had to take had we not recruited Texas.
Filling out an opening or two in the bottom of the class with high ceiling/low cost recruit is fine. Its extremely difficult in a state like Texas because you either have to spend a lot of resources finding that overlooked "gem" that every other schools in the country somehow missed (because everyone looks at Texas) OR you have to recruit directly against a school with a massive recruiting advantage.
And yeah, Texas is one of the most talented states in the country. We can find and sign Texas recruits who have NFL talent. We might not be able to beat Texas and A&M for guys but we can beat TCU and Houston and Baylor and Oklahoma State for guys who would have been NFL draft pick for them but become NFL draft picks for us.
It's called proving a fucking negative.
Ballz fucking logic.
Sunday minus extra time invested in Texas to find and recruit him vs Jalen John or whatever 3* west coast RB we could have had instead with minimal effort.
For me personally I wish we would have recruited Botelho, Herbig, and Bijan harder even if Bijan was a long shot. -
Are caples pieces posted in the Wam? I'm a peasant I can't afford both
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Do you guys think having Ngalu and Heimuli in the boat are helpful in recruiting Troy Franklin? Being a national power will for sure help recruiting in Texas. But so will having successful guys from Texas on your team. I know six years in is pretty late to say LIPO, but I honestly think we're gonna start getting some highly-recruited guys out of Texas on the next few years. Just look at how many kids came up from Texas for the last camp.
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Jalen John? Are you fucking kidding me? He sucks. Sunday is way better. How about they don't recruit Jalen John at all and get the better player. Sound good?FremontTroll said:
The proper analysis isStrongArmCobra said:
And that's where you continue to be wrong. Show me a California 3-star RB you think is better than Sunday. Show me California 3-star ILB you think is better than McDonald. There aren't any. I like McDonald more than I like Bruener's scrawny ass. Our coaches feel like those two guys are better than the 3-star West coast options available to them and that's why they recruited them. If there were better options in California that wanted to come here they would have taken them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Yes, you do seem to be missing the point. No one is arguing about top tier elite talent. We are arguing about spending a ton of resources on acquiring 1-2 depth players per year out of Texas when we could fairly easily pull that out of a state like California where we are already beginning to dominate recruiting.StrongArmCobra said:
Am I missing something? We have a shit load of West Coast elite talented committed to us right now and more to come. Were you expecting UW to get every single one of them before they have even won a fucking bowl game against a team with a pulse yet? Some people just like to bitch. We've got it pretty damn good right now.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Good thing we aren't discussing top targets or elite talent but 1-2 depth players.StrongArmCobra said:
I already have. We've never heard from any West coast recruit that didn't come here that UW wasn't recruiting him hard. Our coaches recruit their top West coast targets hard as fuck. We can go down the list and the kid either wasn't interested, was interested but got cooled on by UW, or is looking to get paid. None of them would have committed here if UW wasn't recruiting Texas. That's fucking stupid.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Prove we didn't miss on guys because of recruiting Texas. You can't! Therefore it's true.StrongArmCobra said:
Name the exact recruits they have missed on because they recruited Texas. You can't, because it's retarded ass logic. At this point in our recruiting, the guys they "miss" on are guys that either weren't highly interested in UW from the very beginning or are looking to get paid. That's it. Guys like Flowe and Ransom weren't highly interested from the very beginning which is inevitable no matter how good the program is and a guy like Ringo is looking for money and we don't pay. We are NOT MISSING any West coast recruits because the coaches didn't put enough time in recruiting them. That is not something that is happening. Shut the fuck up.Houhusky said:Glad you could bring the AIDS to what is a decent thread.
Every single recruit out West that UW wanted and missed on was because they are "making an investment" recruiting Texas. Every single one. They clearly do not have enough time to recruit both the West region and Texas.... Damn its fun to make both wrong, overly definitive, and impossible to prove/disprove statements... Now I get it.StrongArmCobra said:There isn't a single recruit out West that UW wanted and would have gotten had they not "wasted time" recruiting Texas. Not a single one. They clearly have enough time to recruit both the West region and Texas.
"hidden gems" is this NCAA 14 or something?StrongArmCobra said:If our hidden gems are coming from WA, CA, and TX that's fine with me. If you can create a bigger pool of hidden gems and select the top hidden gems from that larger pool of recruits, then the hidden gems you're getting have a better chance of panning out. For instance, there was no hidden gem offensive lineman on the West coast better than Victor Curne in his class. There is no hidden gem RB out West this class better than Jay'Veon Sunday. Those guys are upgrades over West coast guys we would have had to take had we not recruited Texas.
Filling out an opening or two in the bottom of the class with high ceiling/low cost recruit is fine. Its extremely difficult in a state like Texas because you either have to spend a lot of resources finding that overlooked "gem" that every other schools in the country somehow missed (because everyone looks at Texas) OR you have to recruit directly against a school with a massive recruiting advantage.
And yeah, Texas is one of the most talented states in the country. We can find and sign Texas recruits who have NFL talent. We might not be able to beat Texas and A&M for guys but we can beat TCU and Houston and Baylor and Oklahoma State for guys who would have been NFL draft pick for them but become NFL draft picks for us.
It's called proving a fucking negative.
Ballz fucking logic.
Sunday minus extra time invested in Texas to find and recruit him vs Jalen John or whatever 3* west coast RB we could have had instead with minimal effort.
For me personally I wish we would have recruited Botelho, Herbig, and Bijan harder even if Bijan was a long shot.
They recruited those guys as hard as they ever would have. Texas recruiting did not take effort away from recruiting those guys. All of them said UW was all over them. If our coaches didn't recruit Texas they would not put more time and effort into recruiting their West Coast targets. They would have more time to do non-recruiting related things or more time off to spend with their families. Texas recruiting does not affect West coast recruiting at all. They still visit and talk to the West coast kids as much as they would if they weren't recruiting Texas at all.
