I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
Either way it will cost us billions.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.
Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.
We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.
So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
So which is it Benny? Is your company gonna have to move production to Mexico or are they simply going to use another supplier outside of China? And since you sell what sounds like the equivalent of a home based cold fusion reactor, why would you care either way.
In the short-mid term, we'll pass the tariff onto the customer, as stated over and over again in this thread. Who knows? Maybe they go away in 2020 or even sooner.
In the long term, the correct answer is: abundance. Expansion of production in Mexico is going to happen regardless of the 232 and 301 tariff increases. The customer base is expanding in Mexico and competition is driving market prices lower.
The longer term play is to exit current "low tech" products in the 2025-2030 time frame, and replace with new technologies.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
From China? laughing Bolton gif
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.
Black belt? Neato.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there.
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluable
Hey, if we are bashing being efficient and smart enough to get your work done while shit poasting on HH then I am out!
Sounds like you should ask for more work.
"Burden the eager donkey" Been there, done that in the consulting world. I'd rather get paid for being smart than for working hard.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
Our access to their markets is full of barriers. Period. It's not free trade.
And it's true: they are an abortion on the environment.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
Just as we see who is unable to compete in a free market without tariffs and protectionism.
Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
From China? laughing Bolton gif
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.
Black belt? Neato.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there.
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluable
Hey, if we are bashing being efficient and smart enough to get your work done while shit poasting on HH then I am out!
Sounds like you should ask for more work.
"Burden the eager donkey" Been there, done that in the consulting world. I'd rather get paid for being smart than for working hard.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
That is free market. The opposite of that is China.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
Just as we see who is unable to compete in a free market without tariffs and protectionism.
Just as we see a fucking moron with his canned response that doesn't address anything I said.
Let see how well you compete Kunt when all your proprietary secrets and capital are stolen.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
Just as we see who is unable to compete in a free market without tariffs and protectionism.
Just as we see a fucking moron with his canned response that doesn't address anything I said.
Let see how well you compete Kunt when all your proprietary secrets and capital are stolen.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
That is free market. The opposite of that is China.
Still I don't like you driving up #myauroa with your oily hair and fancy suits trying to pass yourself off as a decent American @creepycoug
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
Just as we see who is unable to compete in a free market without tariffs and protectionism.
Just as we see a fucking moron with his canned response that doesn't address anything I said.
Let see how well you compete Kunt when all your proprietary secrets and capital are stolen.
You're such a fucking fraud.
You’re such a fucking victim.
What do you mean Kunt? I'm just advocating that you compete under the same standards you're proposing for everyone else. What the matter Kunt ? Can't you compete? All of your pricing and investment strategies and vehicles should be made public knowledge and every few months there should be a raid on your financial accounts where a 1/3 or half of your capital is stolen.
What's the matter Kunt? Can't you compete or are you just a fucking victim?
You're a fucking ignorant fraud with a fucking big mouth.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
Just as we see who is unable to compete in a free market without tariffs and protectionism.
Just as we see a fucking moron with his canned response that doesn't address anything I said.
Let see how well you compete Kunt when all your proprietary secrets and capital are stolen.
You're such a fucking fraud.
You’re such a fucking victim.
What do you mean Kunt? I'm just advocating that you compete under the same standards you're proposing for everyone else. What the matter Kunt ? Can't you compete? All of your pricing and investment strategies and vehicles should be made public knowledge and every few months there should be a raid on your financial accounts where a 1/3 or half of your capital is stolen.
What's the matter Kunt? Can't you compete or are you just a fucking victim?
You're a fucking ignorant fraud with a fucking big mouth.
I already compete under see the same standards as everyone else.
I’m sorry you can’t compete and need trump’s administration to protect you from further failure and demise.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
In summation:
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature.
CD, I think we've got to quit over simplifying the free trade debate discussion. China is a much different animal when it comes our national interests, than, say opening up our markets to Japan or Germany which are both liberal democracies and close allies. Did you know that back in the 1980's when the domestic automakers were getting hammered by Japanese imports, we were able to reach an agreement with Japan where Toyota, HondoFS, etc started opening up plants in the US? They were a close ally and willing to work with us to save some jerbs in America. Hell, my wife's MDX is made by a bunch of cousin fuckers down in Bammer. China doesn't want to be cooperative because they are a mercantilist, dictatorship bent on displacing the US the the sole superpower.
So let’s pay more for consumer goods, destroy markets and undermine the 60 year old trade liberation infrastructure while trump sorts out a “deal” with “enforcement”?
Now hold on a second...
China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
So based on current and historical data, we don’t need a trade agreement with China, tariffs and trade wars are fucking stupid and free people in free markets will always win? That’s what I’ve been saying. Fuck China. The US with California has and will always win without this trumptardian protectionism, isolationism, and ridiculous “trade deal.”
I love how this dipshit thinks intellectual property theft is part of a "free market."
Just as He believes hiring no skilled fence jumpers for .30 on the dollar is free market as well.
That is free market. The opposite of that is China.
Still I don't like you driving up #myauroa with your oily hair and fancy suits trying to pass yourself off as a decent American @creepycoug
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China entered the WTO in 2001. Average GDP growth per year in the US was way higher in the period 1945- 2001 than it's been sense. We had plenty of free trade with other global trading partners prior to 2001. It ain't FREE TRADE if the other side ain't FREE. I love buying shit from Japan, Mexico, Germany, Vietnam, etc. Fuck China.
In the long term, the correct answer is: abundance. Expansion of production in Mexico is going to happen regardless of the 232 and 301 tariff increases. The customer base is expanding in Mexico and competition is driving market prices lower.
The longer term play is to exit current "low tech" products in the 2025-2030 time frame, and replace with new technologies.
Sincerely,
Captain of Industry Guy
And it's true: they are an abortion on the environment.
Bringing China to heel is important.
Let see how well you compete Kunt when all your proprietary secrets and capital are stolen.
You're such a fucking fraud.
What's the matter Kunt? Can't you compete or are you just a fucking victim?
You're a fucking ignorant fraud with a fucking big mouth.
I’m sorry you can’t compete and need trump’s administration to protect you from further failure and demise.
Cheers!