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    Blu82Blu82 Member Posts: 1,502
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    If we dumped a few billion in cash on the tarmac in Beijing I'm sure the ChiComs would be nicer to us.
    Or, tell them to "knock it off". That will surely work.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,261
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    We do know that Trump’s threats are credible. He began saying how much he loved tariffs long before he ran for office. The irony is that his protectionist stance could pave the way for freer trade, first with China and then with the European Union.


    That's kind of important for a change


    Obese
    Orange
    White Trash
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    We do know that Trump’s threats are credible. He began saying how much he loved tariffs long before he ran for office. The irony is that his protectionist stance could pave the way for freer trade, first with China and then with the European Union.


    That's kind of important for a change


    Obese
    Orange
    White Trash

    True.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    The Racebannon/Cirrhosis Brevity Wars rival the Creepycoug/Racebannon WTF wars.

    Chintresting
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,892
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    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,261
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
    Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

    I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

    Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
    Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

    I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

    Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
    Tariffs equal free trade
    War is peace
    $1 billion losses equal profit
    We have to destroy markets to save them
    Protectionism equals free markets
    POTD
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,879
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    Keep rooting for the away team.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,261
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    Sad how many people here who claim to be rich East Pasadena residents need to buy cheap knock off stuff for the illegals in their basement
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,261
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    Contractors used to buy drywall from China. That worked out great after all the lawsuits for putting formaldehyde in people's houses
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,892
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    Contractors used to buy drywall from China. That worked out great after all the lawsuits for putting formaldehyde in people's houses

    My father-in-law, has term he uses where he says, "Oh, that piece of crap is made from Chineseum".
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    Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,227
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
    Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

    I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

    Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
    This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.

    Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.

    We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.

    So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,261
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
    Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

    I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

    Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
    This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.

    Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.

    We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.

    So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
    Global economy

    Well, stop whining and live with it

    The USA is part of the globe.

    If you source from all over the world then losing the cheap knock off stolen shit from China shouldn't hurt your party favor business.

    You raise something I want 25% I go elsewhere. Its global you know
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,892
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    We must DO SOMETHING!!
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
    Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

    I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

    Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
    This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.

    Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.

    We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.

    So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
    Global economy

    Well, stop whining and live with it

    The USA is part of the globe.

    If you source from all over the world then losing the cheap knock off stolen shit from China shouldn't hurt your party favor business.

    You raise something I want 25% I go elsewhere. Its global you know
    Where is the whining? I'm just stating the facts, higher costs will get passed on to you, the consumer.

    Who is talking about party favors? I'm talking about highly engineered products, designed into products that you cannot live without.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
    Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

    I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

    Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
    This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.

    Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.

    We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.

    So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
    I love this global/corporatist bullshit where people like BennieBrainwashed pretend that they care more about my prices being low instead of the exploding profit they make, when something like MacBooks are made in China vs California. The price didn't move an inch, but the profit increased five-fold when manufacturing moved off-shore.

    It's all about profit, not quality or low prices, dumbass.
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    SFGbob said:

    Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

    I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

    Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.
    Either way it will cost us billions.

    My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

    We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
    Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

    I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

    Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
    This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.

    Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.

    We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.

    So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
    I love this global/corporatist bullshit where people like BennieBrainwashed pretend that they care more about my prices being low instead of the exploding profit they make, when something like MacBooks are made in China vs California. The price didn't move an inch, but the profit increased five-fold when manufacturing moved off-shore.

    It's all about profit, not quality or low prices, dumbass.
    @UW_Doog_Bot do you want to reply to this retard about micro economics? I’m happy to do so myself but you do a good job explaining how supply-demand dynamics clear markets.
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