Gangster in the WH
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In capital market finance? No.RaceBannon said:
And illegal slave labor am I right?CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry to hear you are bending over to the Chinese. We crush them in my industry. You know, things like skills and education matter. Ts&Ps Bob.SFGbob said:
Let China steal our IP and like it appears to be CD's answer. Hardly shocking that a Kunt like CD would respond to being violated by bending over even further.CirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs equal free tradeRaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
War is peace
$1 billion losses equal profit
We have to destroy markets to save them
Protectionism equals free markets
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Idk the dems seem to be wising up to the fact that it's a popular thing to paint the chinese as the enemy again.RaceBannon said:
This was not the answer @CirrhosisDawg was looking for but it is trueUW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Joe Biden will run in 2020 on continuing to bend over for the Chi Coms so we will have a choice
Hard to tell if Biden will continue to be in their financial pocket or if like many others he'll see it as an opportunity for extortion from a place of leverage. Never forget these assholes are all mostly practical in their psychopathy. -
We have so may Captains of Industry hereCirrhosisDawg said:
In capital market finance? No.RaceBannon said:
And illegal slave labor am I right?CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry to hear you are bending over to the Chinese. We crush them in my industry. You know, things like skills and education matter. Ts&Ps Bob.SFGbob said:
Let China steal our IP and like it appears to be CD's answer. Hardly shocking that a Kunt like CD would respond to being violated by bending over even further.CirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs equal free tradeRaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
War is peace
$1 billion losses equal profit
We have to destroy markets to save them
Protectionism equals free markets
POTD -
Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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https://capitalresearch.org/article/flashback-bill-clinton-gave-china-missile-technology/SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
https://nationalreview.com/2017/07/chinese-illegally-donated-bill-clinton-reelection-campaign-media-downplayed/
http://time.com/4348675/terry-mcauliffe-hillary-clinton-china-investigation/ -
I mean, that's it right there. That's the point of it.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Like Trump, hate Trump, whatever Trump. Whomever is making a play to solve this, you can only evaluate the play after you ask yourself two questions: (1) is there anything about our economic relationship with the Chinese that's long-term detrimental to American interests (I assume we all agree "yes" here); and (2) what levers do we? have to pull?
I am not a Trump guy, and I don't reflexively respond to Tuff talk and bravado. But taking a hard line with China, now, as opposed to when we need them more than they need us, is not the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Recognize, too, that there is a Yuge cultural issue here. We walk, talk and act like Western Europeans. We understand each other for obvious reasons and can thus appeal to each other's sense of fairness, right, wrong, etc. When someone from Western Europe is fucking you, he knows he's fucking you, and he knows you know that he knows.
The Chinese are a different animal. I've dealt with their import bureaucracy and layers and layers of "agents" whom you need to hire to get you from the dock to their markets. Everybody has their hand out there, and what we consider dishonesty is a routine day at the office for them. They're different. Not better or worse, but different. For that reason, I've always been as cynical about talking shit out with them as I was about Trumpy's chances with fatboy. Ain't gonna work. You gotta him 'em where it hurts. This is a population of people who can still remember what it's like to starve. This isn't about diplomacy. It's free market economis. You do what you're in a position to do, and you take what you're in a position to have to take. It's that simple.
It's not personally Sonny. It's just business. -
Since you're the one advocating that we do nothing in response to China's IP theft I believe you're a little confused over which one of us is bending over. What should our response be to China's theft CD? Cue the Kunt act.CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry to hear you are bending over to the Chinese. We crush them in my industry. You know, things like skills and education matter. Ts&Ps Bob.SFGbob said:
Let China steal our IP and like it appears to be CD's answer. Hardly shocking that a Kunt like CD would respond to being violated by bending over even further.CirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs equal free tradeRaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
War is peace
$1 billion losses equal profit
We have to destroy markets to save them
Protectionism equals free markets
POTD -
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
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Really a cheap Glendale resident dependent on cheap stuff since he can't afford the good shit.RaceBannon said:Contractors used to buy drywall from China. That worked out great after all the lawsuits for putting formaldehyde in people's houses
