Gangster in the WH
Comments
-
Not that kind of black belt but still, you are nothing more than a cowardly pussy Yella.YellowSnow said:
So wait you're a 6' tall former rugby player with a black belt? I'm glad I've never tried to fight you in real life.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue. -
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
-
PS: Carpet muncher > carpet layerRaceBannon said:PS
The environment is GLOBAL -
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you -
Black belt? Neato.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there.
-
Maybe stick to carpet laying or whatever you do.RaceBannon said:
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
Let the adults discuss things that are a bit more nuanced. -
Mike? Maybe take another year or two off, things have passed you by.MikeDamone said:
We? You sound super important being able to post on an message board arguing with strangers all day and what not.BennyBeaver said:
This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.RaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.
We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.
So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products. -
NuancedBennyBeaver said:
Maybe stick to carpet laying or whatever you do.RaceBannon said:
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
Let the adults discuss things that are a bit more nuanced.
Yeah that's it go with that when you get your ass kicked on your whining and bitching about your big company
The rest rooms need cleaning. Get off the internet -
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluableBennyBeaver said:
Black belt? Neato.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there. -
Hey, if we are bashing being efficient and smart enough to get your work done while shit poasting on HH then I am out!MikeDamone said:
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluableBennyBeaver said:
Black belt? Neato.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there. -
#salemtuffYellowSnow said:
My father-in-law, has term he uses where he says, "Oh, that piece of crap is made from Chineseum".RaceBannon said:Contractors used to buy drywall from China. That worked out great after all the lawsuits for putting formaldehyde in people's houses
-
Sounds like you should ask for more work.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hey, if we are bashing being efficient and smart enough to get your work done while shit poasting on HH then I am out!MikeDamone said:
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluableBennyBeaver said:
Black belt? Neato.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there. -
#beavdeplorablesalemcoog said:
#salemtuffYellowSnow said:
My father-in-law, has term he uses where he says, "Oh, that piece of crap is made from Chineseum".RaceBannon said:Contractors used to buy drywall from China. That worked out great after all the lawsuits for putting formaldehyde in people's houses
-
You’re company must be quite nimble to be able to pull up stakes and fire up the production line in the drop of a hat like that. But I’m guessing that your company already has production facilities in Mexico, amirite?BennyBeaver said:
Never said our total costs are going up 25%, only the costs of components affected by the tariffs.RaceBannon said:
So you get a portion of your party favors from China. But you source from all over the globe. So your total cost isn't going up 25%, only that portion. How much knock off stolen garbage do you use from China? Is there nowhere else on the globe you can get that?BennyBeaver said:
Where is the whining? I'm just stating the facts, higher costs will get passed on to you, the consumer.RaceBannon said:
Global economyBennyBeaver said:
This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.RaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.
We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.
So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
Well, stop whining and live with it
The USA is part of the globe.
If you source from all over the world then losing the cheap knock off stolen shit from China shouldn't hurt your party favor business.
You raise something I want 25% I go elsewhere. Its global you know
Who is talking about party favors? I'm talking about highly engineered products, designed into products that you cannot live without.
Turd is right, Phil Knight didn't pass the savings of using child labor along to the consumer and I doubt your fireworks company does either.
We could source these components from other suppliers, but it takes time and $ to do so.
Or we can continue to use the same suppliers, but have our Mexican entities do the importing and assembly of our party favors, no tariffs. But then high paying jerbs are moved from the US to Mexico. Sad! -
I get it, you got into something you don't really understand and refuse to try. It's too bad, you could have learned something.RaceBannon said:
NuancedBennyBeaver said:
Maybe stick to carpet laying or whatever you do.RaceBannon said:
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
Let the adults discuss things that are a bit more nuanced.
Yeah that's it go with that when you get your ass kicked on your whining and bitching about your big company
The rest rooms need cleaning. Get off the internet
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.
Cue the snarky one-liners... 3, 2, 1... -
You know I shredded you.BennyBeaver said:
I get it, you got into something you don't really understand and refuse to try. It's too bad, you could have learned something.RaceBannon said:
NuancedBennyBeaver said:
Maybe stick to carpet laying or whatever you do.RaceBannon said:
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
Let the adults discuss things that are a bit more nuanced.
Yeah that's it go with that when you get your ass kicked on your whining and bitching about your big company
The rest rooms need cleaning. Get off the internet
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.
Cue the snarky one-liners... 3, 2, 1...
This reply of yours is ironic to say the least. At lease we know why you rarely leave the edge of the pool -
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.RaceBannon said:
You know I shredded you.BennyBeaver said:
I get it, you got into something you don't really understand and refuse to try. It's too bad, you could have learned something.RaceBannon said:
NuancedBennyBeaver said:
Maybe stick to carpet laying or whatever you do.RaceBannon said:
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
Let the adults discuss things that are a bit more nuanced.
Yeah that's it go with that when you get your ass kicked on your whining and bitching about your big company
The rest rooms need cleaning. Get off the internet
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.
Cue the snarky one-liners... 3, 2, 1...
This reply of yours is ironic to say the least. At lease we know why you rarely leave the edge of the pool -
GurgleBennyBeaver said:
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.RaceBannon said:
You know I shredded you.BennyBeaver said:
I get it, you got into something you don't really understand and refuse to try. It's too bad, you could have learned something.RaceBannon said:
NuancedBennyBeaver said:
Maybe stick to carpet laying or whatever you do.RaceBannon said:
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
Let the adults discuss things that are a bit more nuanced.
Yeah that's it go with that when you get your ass kicked on your whining and bitching about your big company
The rest rooms need cleaning. Get off the internet
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.
Cue the snarky one-liners... 3, 2, 1...
This reply of yours is ironic to say the least. At lease we know why you rarely leave the edge of the pool
Look in the mirror -
Also in summation, using government to control markets (through taxes, tariffs, and regulations) is futile and self-defeating in both international and domestic markets.UW_Doog_Bot said:
In summation:CirrhosisDawg said:
Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.Doogles said:Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.
I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights.
No matter how sanctimonious or self-righteous you are, you are not changing the laws of nature. -
And now Cirrho's Butt-Sniffing, Protect-Me-Daddy act to Doog_Bot. Pathetic.CirrhosisDawg said:
Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.Doogles said:Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.
I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics. -
*yoursalemcoog said:
You’re company must be quite nimble to be able to pull up stakes and fire up the production line in the drop of a hat like that. But I’m guessing that your company already has production facilities in Mexico, amirite?BennyBeaver said:
Never said our total costs are going up 25%, only the costs of components affected by the tariffs.RaceBannon said:
So you get a portion of your party favors from China. But you source from all over the globe. So your total cost isn't going up 25%, only that portion. How much knock off stolen garbage do you use from China? Is there nowhere else on the globe you can get that?BennyBeaver said:
Where is the whining? I'm just stating the facts, higher costs will get passed on to you, the consumer.RaceBannon said:
Global economyBennyBeaver said:
This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.RaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.
We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.
So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
Well, stop whining and live with it
The USA is part of the globe.
If you source from all over the world then losing the cheap knock off stolen shit from China shouldn't hurt your party favor business.
You raise something I want 25% I go elsewhere. Its global you know
Who is talking about party favors? I'm talking about highly engineered products, designed into products that you cannot live without.
Turd is right, Phil Knight didn't pass the savings of using child labor along to the consumer and I doubt your fireworks company does either.
We could source these components from other suppliers, but it takes time and $ to do so.
Or we can continue to use the same suppliers, but have our Mexican entities do the importing and assembly of our party favors, no tariffs. But then high paying jerbs are moved from the US to Mexico. Sad! -
Cue the snarky one-liners... 3, 2, 1...RaceBannon said:
GurgleBennyBeaver said:
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.RaceBannon said:
You know I shredded you.BennyBeaver said:
I get it, you got into something you don't really understand and refuse to try. It's too bad, you could have learned something.RaceBannon said:
NuancedBennyBeaver said:
Maybe stick to carpet laying or whatever you do.RaceBannon said:
Smarter than youBennyBeaver said:
Thanks for checking back in Simpleton.RaceBannon said:
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
Thanks to people like you
Let the adults discuss things that are a bit more nuanced.
Yeah that's it go with that when you get your ass kicked on your whining and bitching about your big company
The rest rooms need cleaning. Get off the internet
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.
Cue the snarky one-liners... 3, 2, 1...
This reply of yours is ironic to say the least. At lease we know why you rarely leave the edge of the pool
Look in the mirror -
And in comes the TweedleDee to Race's TweedleDum.MikeDamone said:
We? You sound super important being able to post on an message board arguing with strangers all day and what not.BennyBeaver said:
This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.RaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.
We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.
So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
Hooray. -
I already pay for American Blue Jeans, punk. They're worth every penny and not subject to tariffs, so I'm fine.BennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet. -
Benny is a super serious poster guys. No one liners please
He's making really great points here -
You sound like an Alcoa commercial that would play during golf tournaments from the 80s.
-
Nope. Just a sales guy who understands his business and whose pipeline is full for the next 5 years.MikeDamone said:
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluableBennyBeaver said:
Black belt? Neato.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there. -
Sales?BennyBeaver said:
Nope. Just a sales guy who understands his business and whose pipeline is full for the next 5 years.MikeDamone said:
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluableBennyBeaver said:
Black belt? Neato.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there.
Ok -
Instead of reading and thinking, you intentionally derail the discussion by oversimplifying, misstating facts, ad hominem attacks and obfuscation. It's your shtick, over and over again. Thread after thread. Day after day. Year after year. Painstakingly boring, but it must give you some joy. Congrats.RaceBannon said:Benny is a super serious poster guys. No one liners please
He's making really great points here -
"Burden the eager donkey" Been there, done that in the consulting world. I'd rather get paid for being smart than for working hard.MikeDamone said:
Sounds like you should ask for more work.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Hey, if we are bashing being efficient and smart enough to get your work done while shit poasting on HH then I am out!MikeDamone said:
Captain of industry and world manufacturing leader: working for w2 wages and posting on the internet constantly. You seem invaluableBennyBeaver said:
Black belt? Neato.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
Sure, it's a bitch to change over...that's what I've said multiple tims...
Some in this thread (you know who) have a very, very simplistic view of what it is required to be a world-class manufacturing leader. Equate it to a simple import of trinkets. No fucking clue.
FM for explaining how these tariffs will effect them.
CHINA BAD. ME NO LIKE CHEAP SHIT FROM CHINA.
All the while they have been benefiting from goods produced there.
