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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,848 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.

    Same thing prove me wrong. Barr did because Mueller is a pussy who wouldn't make a statement knowing full well that he can't bring charges. He passed it to Barr and Barr made the correct decision. Therefore Trump was cleared and Mueller had nothing to with it. So who fucking cares what Mueller said.

    Guess who Mueller's boss is?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,759
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.

    Same thing prove me wrong. Barr did because Mueller is a pussy who wouldn't make a statement knowing full well that he can't bring charges. He passed it to Barr and Barr made the correct decision. Therefore Trump was cleared and Mueller had nothing to with it. So who fucking cares what Mueller said.

    Guess who Mueller's boss is?
    Barr made a decision not to charge Daddy. It may even have been a good decision. There would have been no decision to make absent evidence of guilt.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,848 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.

    Same thing prove me wrong. Barr did because Mueller is a pussy who wouldn't make a statement knowing full well that he can't bring charges. He passed it to Barr and Barr made the correct decision. Therefore Trump was cleared and Mueller had nothing to with it. So who fucking cares what Mueller said.

    Guess who Mueller's boss is?
    Barr made a decision not to charge Daddy. It may even have been a good decision. There would have been no decision to make absent evidence of guilt.
    You forget there is an absence of a crime. You can not have obstruction without the underlying crime that is being investigated. Every part of this investigation is based on lies paid for by your gal Hillary, Sure sounds like fruit of the poisonous tree to me. But then you and Schiff probably spoon.

    "In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Trump exonerated of obstruction?

    Good news for America

    That would’ve been great!
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,848 Standard Supporter

    Trump exonerated of obstruction?

    Good news for America

    That would’ve been great!
    You can't fake your level of stupidity.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,793 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Trump exonerated of obstruction?

    Good news for America

    That would’ve been great!
    You can't fake your level of stupidity.
    He's not
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    Trump exonerated of obstruction?

    Good news for America

    That would’ve been great!
    You can't fake your level of stupidity.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,793 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    Trump exonerated of obstruction?

    Good news for America

    That would’ve been great!
    You can't fake your level of stupidity.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
    What a great day to be a white trash Trumpanzee Trumptard unable to compete in America man
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,848 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Trump exonerated of obstruction?

    Good news for America

    That would’ve been great!
    You can't fake your level of stupidity.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
    Better quote it for me. Mom can help when she brings your bagel bites down to your command center.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    So both Mueller and Barr are in on the cover up. Got it.

    According to mueller and Barr, was trump exonerated on obstruction of justice allegations Bob?

    "In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."

    Read for comprehension.
    Indeed. The Mueller Report is quoted in Barr's letter. How did you miss that?
    How did you miss there is not and never was a crime. Therefore no criminal investigation or charge exists that can be obstructed. You can't obstruct nothing because nothing should never be investigated.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
    CirrhosisoftheBrain doing his best HondoFS impression.

    The butthurt in the special ed liberals these last couple of days has been epic...
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    So both Mueller and Barr are in on the cover up. Got it.

    According to mueller and Barr, was trump exonerated on obstruction of justice allegations Bob?

    "In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."

    Read for comprehension.
    Indeed. The Mueller Report is quoted in Barr's letter. How did you miss that?
    How did you miss there is not and never was a crime. Therefore no criminal investigation or charge exists that can be obstructed. You can't obstruct nothing because nothing should never be investigated.
    You didn’t read the Barr summary. Not surprised.
    CirrhosisoftheBrain doing his best HondoFS impression.

    The butthurt in the special ed liberals these last couple of days has been epic...
    Vindicated!
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,409 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    His tax returns have nothing to do with Russian collusion. Firing Comey, who the press hated, was a fucking excuse to launch the investigation.

    Go back and take a look at the press conference that Trump held after the bullshit Dossier story was reported by Buzzfeed.

    http://youtu.be/0l4bQYZcaQk


    The Rats started pushing the phony narrative of Russian collusion immediately after the election and the press was more than happy to carry their water and this was long before Trump was even sworn into office.

    They (the returns) have everything to do with trust and confidence. Everything he did in the leading up to the appointment of Mueller (inc non release of the tax returns) creates suspicion.
    Everything he did?


    Jesus this is just pathetic backtracking now
    Backtracking my ass. Where the fuck did I ever say he was guilty of collusion or obstruction or call for impeachment in the Tug? I was in the LIPO camp from day fucking 1.
    You're saying it now

    It was bullshit. There's no excuse for it. It was a coup attempt

    And you're running cover
    Saying what now? That he's made some really poor decisions that didn't help build his trust worthiness and created a lot of suspicion = saying that Mueller would find get him on collusion or obstruction. Coup attempt my fucking ass. The process played out how it's fucking supposed in a country founded on rule of law.
    C'mon. You are backtracking and doubling down. And Race is right, this was tantamount to an attempted coup, even a blind man can see that. You've been open with your loathing of Trump and Trump supporters, going so far as to start a thread wherein a kid was hassled by a hate group and man in his 60's and you blamed the kid because the way he was dressed, he was begging for it. Just own it and move on.
    No you c'mon @Southerndawg . Yes, I've been very open about my loathing up Trump. But I have tried to be as respectful of others as I can in the Tug. Rarely do you see me WTF another's post. I've made an effort not to personally attack any poster here unless they come at me first. I mean fuck, I've hardly posted in the tug at all in the past 6 months. (the thread I started with the MAGA kids was as joke with @swaye . So I made one comment initially about how he looked to be trolling the old Indian. What was I supposed to walk back? I stand by the statement that wearing MAGA hats to a pro life rally isn't a good look).


  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,409 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    His tax returns have nothing to do with Russian collusion. Firing Comey, who the press hated, was a fucking excuse to launch the investigation.

    Go back and take a look at the press conference that Trump held after the bullshit Dossier story was reported by Buzzfeed.

    http://youtu.be/0l4bQYZcaQk


    The Rats started pushing the phony narrative of Russian collusion immediately after the election and the press was more than happy to carry their water and this was long before Trump was even sworn into office.

    They (the returns) have everything to do with trust and confidence. Everything he did in the leading up to the appointment of Mueller (inc non release of the tax returns) creates suspicion.
    Everything he did?


    Jesus this is just pathetic backtracking now
    Backtracking my ass. Where the fuck did I ever say he was guilty of collusion or obstruction or call for impeachment in the Tug? I was in the LIPO camp from day fucking 1.
    You're saying it now

    It was bullshit. There's no excuse for it. It was a coup attempt

    And you're running cover
    Saying what now? That he's made some really poor decisions that didn't help build his trust worthiness and created a lot of suspicion = saying that Mueller would find get him on collusion or obstruction. Coup attempt my fucking ass. The process played out how it's fucking supposed in a country founded on rule of law.
    C'mon. You are backtracking and doubling down. And Race is right, this was tantamount to an attempted coup, even a blind man can see that. You've been open with your loathing of Trump and Trump supporters, going so far as to start a thread wherein a kid was hassled by a hate group and man in his 60's and you blamed the kid because the way he was dressed, he was begging for it. Just own it and move on.
    No you c'mon @Southerndawg . Yes, I've been very open about my loathing up Trump. But I have tried to be as respectful of others as I can in the Tug. Rarely do you see me WTF another's post. I've made an effort not to personally attack any poster here unless they come at me first. I mean fuck, I've hardly posted in the tug at all in the past 6 months. (the thread I started with the MAGA kids was as joke with @swaye . So I made one comment initially about how he looked to be trolling the old Indian. What was I supposed to walk back? I stand by the statement that wearing MAGA hats to a pro life rally isn't a good look).


    So it was you who drug me back into this shit. Fuck. As liverdwag so aptly observes, I'd been doing a pretty good jerb of of not caring for many months. Covington Catholic story was so horribly botched it brought me back in.

    I hold you responsible now for my caring.
    Please accept my apologies.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,296 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    His tax returns have nothing to do with Russian collusion. Firing Comey, who the press hated, was a fucking excuse to launch the investigation.

    Go back and take a look at the press conference that Trump held after the bullshit Dossier story was reported by Buzzfeed.

    http://youtu.be/0l4bQYZcaQk


    The Rats started pushing the phony narrative of Russian collusion immediately after the election and the press was more than happy to carry their water and this was long before Trump was even sworn into office.

    They (the returns) have everything to do with trust and confidence. Everything he did in the leading up to the appointment of Mueller (inc non release of the tax returns) creates suspicion.
    Everything he did?


    Jesus this is just pathetic backtracking now
    Backtracking my ass. Where the fuck did I ever say he was guilty of collusion or obstruction or call for impeachment in the Tug? I was in the LIPO camp from day fucking 1.
    You're saying it now

    It was bullshit. There's no excuse for it. It was a coup attempt

    And you're running cover
    Saying what now? That he's made some really poor decisions that didn't help build his trust worthiness and created a lot of suspicion = saying that Mueller would find get him on collusion or obstruction. Coup attempt my fucking ass. The process played out how it's fucking supposed in a country founded on rule of law.
    C'mon. You are backtracking and doubling down. And Race is right, this was tantamount to an attempted coup, even a blind man can see that. You've been open with your loathing of Trump and Trump supporters, going so far as to start a thread wherein a kid was hassled by a hate group and man in his 60's and you blamed the kid because the way he was dressed, he was begging for it. Just own it and move on.
    No you c'mon @Southerndawg . Yes, I've been very open about my loathing up Trump. But I have tried to be as respectful of others as I can in the Tug. Rarely do you see me WTF another's post. I've made an effort not to personally attack any poster here unless they come at me first. I mean fuck, I've hardly posted in the tug at all in the past 6 months. (the thread I started with the MAGA kids was as joke with @swaye . So I made one comment initially about how he looked to be trolling the old Indian. What was I supposed to walk back? I stand by the statement that wearing MAGA hats to a pro life rally isn't a good look).


    I agree, you are respectful of others in here, kudos for that, seriously. And I mean no disrespect, but again, IMHO you're not owning up to your intent. IMO, the tagline for your post regarding the Covington Catholic story was an attempt to use humor to mask your intent. You loathe Trump and folks who show their support for him by wearing a silly hat, which by the way was probably more fitting than not at a pro-life rally since Trump is pro-life and that is a pro-Trump hat. You (and you weren't alone) were very quick to judge the kid, who turned out to be the real victim of hatred from a relentless press and social media attacks, up to and including the doxing of he and his family so as to extend the harassment to his doorstep. Walking back your hasty judgement of the kid and/or owning up to a bit of Trump Derangement Syndrome seems fitting, but that's just me. Either way, cheers, you are one of the better poasters in this hive of villainous scum.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,409 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    His tax returns have nothing to do with Russian collusion. Firing Comey, who the press hated, was a fucking excuse to launch the investigation.

    Go back and take a look at the press conference that Trump held after the bullshit Dossier story was reported by Buzzfeed.

    http://youtu.be/0l4bQYZcaQk


    The Rats started pushing the phony narrative of Russian collusion immediately after the election and the press was more than happy to carry their water and this was long before Trump was even sworn into office.

    They (the returns) have everything to do with trust and confidence. Everything he did in the leading up to the appointment of Mueller (inc non release of the tax returns) creates suspicion.
    Everything he did?


    Jesus this is just pathetic backtracking now
    Backtracking my ass. Where the fuck did I ever say he was guilty of collusion or obstruction or call for impeachment in the Tug? I was in the LIPO camp from day fucking 1.
    You're saying it now

    It was bullshit. There's no excuse for it. It was a coup attempt

    And you're running cover
    Saying what now? That he's made some really poor decisions that didn't help build his trust worthiness and created a lot of suspicion = saying that Mueller would find get him on collusion or obstruction. Coup attempt my fucking ass. The process played out how it's fucking supposed in a country founded on rule of law.
    C'mon. You are backtracking and doubling down. And Race is right, this was tantamount to an attempted coup, even a blind man can see that. You've been open with your loathing of Trump and Trump supporters, going so far as to start a thread wherein a kid was hassled by a hate group and man in his 60's and you blamed the kid because the way he was dressed, he was begging for it. Just own it and move on.
    No you c'mon @Southerndawg . Yes, I've been very open about my loathing up Trump. But I have tried to be as respectful of others as I can in the Tug. Rarely do you see me WTF another's post. I've made an effort not to personally attack any poster here unless they come at me first. I mean fuck, I've hardly posted in the tug at all in the past 6 months. (the thread I started with the MAGA kids was as joke with @swaye . So I made one comment initially about how he looked to be trolling the old Indian. What was I supposed to walk back? I stand by the statement that wearing MAGA hats to a pro life rally isn't a good look).


    I agree, you are respectful of others in here, kudos for that, seriously. And I mean no disrespect, but again, IMHO you're not owning up to your intent. IMO, the tagline for your post regarding the Covington Catholic story was an attempt to use humor to mask your intent. You loathe Trump and folks who show their support for him by wearing a silly hat, which by the way was probably more fitting than not at a pro-life rally since Trump is pro-life and that is a pro-Trump hat. You (and you weren't alone) were very quick to judge the kid, who turned out to be the real victim of hatred from a relentless press and social media attacks, up to and including the doxing of he and his family so as to extend the harassment to his doorstep. Walking back your hasty judgement of the kid and/or owning up to a bit of Trump Derangement Syndrome seems fitting, but that's just me. Either way, cheers, you are one of the better poasters in this hive of villainous scum.
    @Southerndawg here's what I walk back in hindsight: I was trying to stir with pot with a little humor and thought the kid looked like a troll without seeing the whole story. Again, I don't think getting it wrong once in a while in the Tug has the same equivalence as real life- e.g., I don't have a Twitter account, nor do I ever discuss politics on social media. My critique of the MAGA hat at the pro life rally is that to me the point of demonstrating should be to win hearts and minds to your cause. But in this case, anyone that likes your MAGA hat already agrees with you.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,759
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.

    Same thing prove me wrong. Barr did because Mueller is a pussy who wouldn't make a statement knowing full well that he can't bring charges. He passed it to Barr and Barr made the correct decision. Therefore Trump was cleared and Mueller had nothing to with it. So who fucking cares what Mueller said.

    Guess who Mueller's boss is?
    Barr made a decision not to charge Daddy. It may even have been a good decision. There would have been no decision to make absent evidence of guilt.
    You forget there is an absence of a crime. You can not have obstruction without the underlying crime that is being investigated. Every part of this investigation is based on lies paid for by your gal Hillary, Sure sounds like fruit of the poisonous tree to me. But then you and Schiff probably spoon.

    "In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."
    It is absolute bullshit to argue that one cannot obstruct justice in the absence of a crime. It is Bill Barr’s position however. Why do you think he got the job?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    #Resisting going full Teq on the Covington thing....

    It's hard
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,793 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.

    Same thing prove me wrong. Barr did because Mueller is a pussy who wouldn't make a statement knowing full well that he can't bring charges. He passed it to Barr and Barr made the correct decision. Therefore Trump was cleared and Mueller had nothing to with it. So who fucking cares what Mueller said.

    Guess who Mueller's boss is?
    Barr made a decision not to charge Daddy. It may even have been a good decision. There would have been no decision to make absent evidence of guilt.
    You forget there is an absence of a crime. You can not have obstruction without the underlying crime that is being investigated. Every part of this investigation is based on lies paid for by your gal Hillary, Sure sounds like fruit of the poisonous tree to me. But then you and Schiff probably spoon.

    "In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."
    It is absolute bullshit to argue that one cannot obstruct justice in the absence of a crime. It is Bill Barr’s position however. Why do you think he got the job?
    And here comes the anger
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,759

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Barr quoted the Mueller Report, Mall Cop. It explicitly did not exonerate Daddy of obstruction.

    Same thing prove me wrong. Barr did because Mueller is a pussy who wouldn't make a statement knowing full well that he can't bring charges. He passed it to Barr and Barr made the correct decision. Therefore Trump was cleared and Mueller had nothing to with it. So who fucking cares what Mueller said.

    Guess who Mueller's boss is?
    Barr made a decision not to charge Daddy. It may even have been a good decision. There would have been no decision to make absent evidence of guilt.
    You forget there is an absence of a crime. You can not have obstruction without the underlying crime that is being investigated. Every part of this investigation is based on lies paid for by your gal Hillary, Sure sounds like fruit of the poisonous tree to me. But then you and Schiff probably spoon.

    "In cataloging the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice."
    It is absolute bullshit to argue that one cannot obstruct justice in the absence of a crime. It is Bill Barr’s position however. Why do you think he got the job?
    And here comes the anger
    I can’t imagine caring about this.
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