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$39 billion bailout for industries affected by tariffs

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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    Neither Unions, Cesar Chavez, Donald trump or his federal government can impede or prevent the most efficient allocation of resources. It’s futile.
    To be fair, the government can if they have a monopoly on force. The Soviets certainly did.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2018

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter
    Maybe Mexico can pay to bail out the losses for all their citizens sucking up all the services, committing crimes and clogging our legal system and jails.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2018
    Sledog said:

    Maybe Mexico can pay to bail out the losses for all their citizens sucking up all the services, committing crimes and clogging our legal system and jails.

    You’re not referring to Mexicans....think darker and think legal citizens.

    Hey!! I’m just repeating what I’m hearing!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    You're doing what creepycoug does, calling for open borders globalism then acting like the 'protectionists' want to stymie the free market. I bet you have a George Soros portrait hanging in your study too. Free markets for US citizens within US borders, where everyone is free to move about as they wish to exchange labor for pay. The rest of the world isn't our concern. The US is not a dumping ground for illegal labor. Foreigners have no right to 'make it here' when they can make it in their own countries. You're making the Cochsuckers proud in this thread.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2018

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    You're doing what creepycoug does, calling for open borders globalism then acting like the 'protectionists' want to stymie the free market. I bet you have a George Soros portrait hanging in your study too. Free markets for US citizens within US borders, where everyone is free to move about as they wish to exchange labor for pay. The rest of the world isn't our concern. The US is not a dumping ground for illegal labor. Foreigners have no right to 'make it here' when they can make it in their own countries. You're making the Cochsuckers proud in this thread.
    Yeah...i have a George sorts portrait. You’re not a lover of liberty or the free market. That’s clear.

    I care about freedom, liberty, property rights, self ownership, free markets and peace. You care about government oppession of those things and using force of the government to enforce your beliefs. I’m starting to think you and Soros have a lot in common as authoritarian assholes.

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/29/midterms-billionaire-koch-brothers-threaten-to-support-democrats-pushing-open-borders-free-trade/
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,412

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    It's not that simple...

    We aren't talking about just agricultural and farming. Illegal immigrants also drive down wages in the construction field. Your remodelers, roofers, framers, painters, plumbers, landscapers, tile layers, flat workers, are already negatively impacted. Illegals don't pay for licensing, insurance, bonding, etc. So they can outbid on any job they choose. They can also get scooped up by general contractors looking for cheap labor on subdivisions, or employed by specialty contractors because they can be employed on the cheap. This obviously isn't legal, but turning a blind eye will make this practice much more abundant.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2018

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    It's not that simple...

    We aren't talking about just agricultural and farming. Illegal immigrants also drive down wages in the construction field. Your remodelers, roofers, framers, painters, plumbers, landscapers, tile layers, flat workers, are already negatively impacted. Illegals don't pay for licensing, insurance, bonding, etc. So they can outbid on any job they choose. They can also get scooped up by general contractors looking for cheap labor on subdivisions, or employed by specialty contractors because they can be employed on the cheap. This obviously isn't legal, but turning a blind eye will make this practice much more abundant.
    That’s quite the authoritarian view. So you feel that the government needs to collect fees from people so they can work? Why can’t the best person at the best price get the work? As someone having a house built, why would I want to pay an inflated price for labor? I benefit by saving money on the house which allows me to purchase other things. I win and the laborer wins. You sound like taxi drivers who are angry about Uber and want the government to step in and make it more costly for Uber to drive people.

    The workers you are worried about aren’t the victims of immigrants, they are the victims of government intervention in their livelihood. Get rid of the government burden and let them compete.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    It's not that simple...

    We aren't talking about just agricultural and farming. Illegal immigrants also drive down wages in the construction field. Your remodelers, roofers, framers, painters, plumbers, landscapers, tile layers, flat workers, are already negatively impacted. Illegals don't pay for licensing, insurance, bonding, etc. So they can outbid on any job they choose. They can also get scooped up by general contractors looking for cheap labor on subdivisions, or employed by specialty contractors because they can be employed on the cheap. This obviously isn't legal, but turning a blind eye will make this practice much more abundant.
    Let the market decide. Consumers and employers value productivity, efficiency and economy. US Producers of high value-added products and services don’t have a problem. Adapt or die.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    There is no free market for fucks sake.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2018

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    It's not that simple...

    We aren't talking about just agricultural and farming. Illegal immigrants also drive down wages in the construction field. Your remodelers, roofers, framers, painters, plumbers, landscapers, tile layers, flat workers, are already negatively impacted. Illegals don't pay for licensing, insurance, bonding, etc. So they can outbid on any job they choose. They can also get scooped up by general contractors looking for cheap labor on subdivisions, or employed by specialty contractors because they can be employed on the cheap. This obviously isn't legal, but turning a blind eye will make this practice much more abundant.
    Let the market decide. Consumers and employers value productivity, efficiency and economy. US Producers of high value-added products and services don’t have a problem. Adapt or die.
    Didn’t just yesterday you jump my shit for being a Classical Liberal. Something about “Hayek, Friedman”...and some shit? Now you give me chins.

    Fuck. I know I’m right when I get a accused of being a Trumpmonkey and Soros cocksucker within 24 hours.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2018

    There is no free market for fucks sake.

    But “real socialism/capitalism/communism” has never been tried......
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2018

    There is no free market for fucks sake.

    Leftists: “unbridled capitalism is predatory and leads to monopolies”

    Me: “No, it’s actually the opposite, only government interference in the market leads to monopolies”
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2018

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    You're doing what creepycoug does, calling for open borders globalism then acting like the 'protectionists' want to stymie the free market. I bet you have a George Soros portrait hanging in your study too. Free markets for US citizens within US borders, where everyone is free to move about as they wish to exchange labor for pay. The rest of the world isn't our concern. The US is not a dumping ground for illegal labor. Foreigners have no right to 'make it here' when they can make it in their own countries. You're making the Cochsuckers proud in this thread.
    Yeah...i have a George sorts portrait. You’re not a lover of liberty or the free market. That’s clear.

    I care about freedom, liberty, property rights, self ownership, free markets and peace. You care about government oppession of those things and using force of the government to enforce your beliefs. I’m starting to think you and Soros have a lot in common as authoritarian assholes.

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/29/midterms-billionaire-koch-brothers-threaten-to-support-democrats-pushing-open-borders-free-trade/
    You're getting upvoted and chinned by @CirrhosisDawg. Must mean something is wrong with your argument. lol if you think I actually read breitbart. I'm for all of those things you mentioned too--for US citizens. The USA is priority number 1, that's what I care about, not the rest of the world. You're making an open borders globalist argument, insinuating that I'm against free markets because I'm against open borders and the free movement of international labor. That's the key word, international.

    The Cochsucker faggots want open borders so they can continue to enrich themselves at the expense of American citizens. We need mechanisms to limit the influence that such people have on government policy through their lobbying efforts. I'm all for cracking down on motherfuckers like that. The founders never intended America to be a country that was sold to the highest bidder. As for the shit about me wanting government to enforce my beliefs, pure horseshit. I want the government to enforce the Constitution. A government that stops following the Constitution is a government that has become an enemy of the people. It's the duty of the people to overthrow such governments.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    You're doing what creepycoug does, calling for open borders globalism then acting like the 'protectionists' want to stymie the free market. I bet you have a George Soros portrait hanging in your study too. Free markets for US citizens within US borders, where everyone is free to move about as they wish to exchange labor for pay. The rest of the world isn't our concern. The US is not a dumping ground for illegal labor. Foreigners have no right to 'make it here' when they can make it in their own countries. You're making the Cochsuckers proud in this thread.
    Yeah...i have a George sorts portrait. You’re not a lover of liberty or the free market. That’s clear.

    I care about freedom, liberty, property rights, self ownership, free markets and peace. You care about government oppession of those things and using force of the government to enforce your beliefs. I’m starting to think you and Soros have a lot in common as authoritarian assholes.

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/29/midterms-billionaire-koch-brothers-threaten-to-support-democrats-pushing-open-borders-free-trade/
    You're getting upvoted and chinned by @CirrhosisDawg. Must mean something is wrong with your argument. lol if you think I actually read breitbart. I'm for all of those things you mentioned too--for US citizens. The USA is priority number 1, that's what I care about, not the rest of the world. You're making an open borders globalist argument, insinuating that I'm against free markets because I'm against open borders and the free movement of international labor. That's the key word, international.

    The Cochsucker faggots want open borders so they can continue to enrich themselves at the expense of American citizens. We need mechanisms to limit the influence that such people have on government policy through their lobbying efforts. I'm all for cracking down on motherfuckers like that. The founders never intended America to be a country that was sold to the highest bidder. As for the shit about me wanting government to enforce my beliefs, pure horseshit. I want the government to enforce the Constitution. A government that stops following the Constitution is a government that has become an enemy of the people. It's the duty of the people to overthrow such governments.
    I stopped reading at your second logical fallacy.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Yeah.. Tarrifs and government interfering with the market is bullshit. We all know that. It’s funny though because half of you here cum in your pants for more government.

    True. The tug is the safe space for fucktards who think the government can fund inefficiency, and regulate and impede the flow of goods, services, and money to the highest and best use.

    $25 billion US funded border wall?

    Deportation of longstanding Labor supply for multi-billion $$$ Ag, hospitality and entertainment industries?

    Tariffs?

    Corporate welfare? Payments to farmers to reimburse negative impact of tariffs?

    The tug is home to all of this bullshit, including from self-professed “free marketers.”
    Keeping labor costs down by letting illiterate Mexicans come in is a huge plus. Just as there should be no minimum wage. The skills and supply of labor dictate the price and the government shouldn’t interfere. That’s why Chavez hated illegals. They fucked up his labor cartel.
    If that's your actual position, you're no different than Soros and the Cochsuckers. Open borders.
    No, I just agree with the factual economics. Cheaper labor benefits everyone. Illegal is more beneficial than legal.
    Illegals displace American workers, drive down wages and with enough of them, will be the cause of widespread social chaos when millions are out of work, making it easy for extremist ideologies to make serious inroads in America. It's what opportunistic groups like the "Democratic Socialists of America" want. They admit as much on their website, they're basically waiting for an economic crisis to push their agenda further and gain new followers. We don't need illegals. Fuck them. We can put our own useless millennial socialists to work picking beans in the field. They can get a taste of what its like to really be a part of the proletariat. It's what they want. Everyone wins.
    Slippery slope is your logical fallacy. Competing for wages on the open market benefits everyone. Anyone is able to compete in the labor market. Millennial socialists included.

    It’s funny leftists want to drive down wages and conservatives want government to stymie the free market. It’s like it’s Opposite Day.
    It's not that simple...

    We aren't talking about just agricultural and farming. Illegal immigrants also drive down wages in the construction field. Your remodelers, roofers, framers, painters, plumbers, landscapers, tile layers, flat workers, are already negatively impacted. Illegals don't pay for licensing, insurance, bonding, etc. So they can outbid on any job they choose. They can also get scooped up by general contractors looking for cheap labor on subdivisions, or employed by specialty contractors because they can be employed on the cheap. This obviously isn't legal, but turning a blind eye will make this practice much more abundant.
    Let the market decide. Consumers and employers value productivity, efficiency and economy. US Producers of high value-added products and services don’t have a problem. Adapt or die.
    Didn’t just yesterday you jump my shit for being a Classical Liberal. Something about “Hayek, Friedman”...and some shit? Now you give me chins.

    Fuck. I know I’m right when I get a accused of being a Trumpmonkey and Soros cocksucker within 24 hours.
    We’re you at a bar yesterday?





  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    There's still no fucking free market. We're a hybrid of concessions to donors.

    Who want cheap illegal labor

    Fuck off
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