Pete not making friends with the FS high schools
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Answer the question about what I said that was preposterous about black kids!!!Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's not one coach man.dnc said:
What did I say that's preposterous about black kids? Literally all I said is he's gotten every black kid he wanted except Connor. And he has.Dennis_DeYoung said:
2. The black kid thing - you're not black so you don't get it. That's really all I can say when you say preposterous shit like that. UW missed on Tre'Shaun this year, Conner last year... but if you think that Thomas isn't tapping into some general resentment and anger there is in the SEA toward UW, you are a fucking moron. And it's not JUST black kids, but it's particularly black kids. You can say it SHOULDN'T be that way and you will pretend the way is the world you want it to be, but that doesn't mean fucking shit.
To misquote @NorwegianHusky "How are you writing all of these replies to dnc when you clearly don't know how to fucking read? You're ascribing opinions to him that he doesn't have."
And we'll just have to agree to disagree on Jimmy Lake. He got Gordon and Hampton signed before the promotion. They didn't promote him because he can't recruit now. They promoted him because if they didn't he would have gotten the promotion somewhere else.
And you talked to one high school coach so therefore you think there's a narrative growing throughout the state. This is the problem with inside information. People think one person who knows a little means a whole lot more than it does.
HS coaches may not love Pete.That's not going to keep their kids from coming to UW when UW wants them.
It's pretty much every in state coach I know and have heard from... maybe 15?
Also AGAIN I'm not saying they're right...
But, look at this last week... we offered 20 out of state kids and ZERO in-state kids.
Now *I UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE DOING THAT* - got it - do you get it? I DENNIS DEYOUNG PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND IT...
...but I guarantee you there is a lot of butthurt at schools when they see people from fucking Kansas tweeting out offers from UW and UW has literally offered TWO in-state kids.
These schools are 'inner shitty' 'suburban' 'rural' traditionally good, not so much, etc.
You think Sumner feels great about the way they treated Ben Wilson? lol fuck no.
Now, IDGAF about Ben Wilson. I would have taken him, but I like Tafisi better. Whatever... it doesn't fucking matter. But they offered some fireplug out of TX instead of Ben, then when that shit went south and it looked like they weren't going to get Kaho, they initiated contact with Ben after not talking with him consistently for months.
That's the shit that got Sark ex-communicated locally. This is a fickle fucking place.
The same reason UW can basically sweep everyone is the same reason they can lose everyone: WWa is provincial.
Other than ignoring that I have no issues whatsoever with this post. I agree with it completely. I'm the one who questioned wtf we haven't offered Elder yet. -
Yeah, that's my point - you hit it on the head.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Holy shit ddy is pressing in this thread
So the program is in trouble because EWU kids are not getting UW offers?
Honestly fuck off DDY. You dont know 1/10th as much as you think you do about football
Jesus fuck.
The resident 'recruiting doesn't matter' doogs always come around to say 'it doesn't matter' - then two years later when shit is in the toilet on whatever issue Pepsi and I are freaking out about when we see shit getting out of control, it's like 'oh, well, it was obvious something had to be done about it'.
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Look at that, we agree!Tequilla said:Seattle and the PNW is the sensitive of the sensitive in this country ... this isn’t a new development
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Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yeah, that's my point - you hit it on the head.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Holy shit ddy is pressing in this thread
So the program is in trouble because EWU kids are not getting UW offers?
Honestly fuck off DDY. You dont know 1/10th as much as you think you do about football
Jesus fuck.
The resident 'recruiting doesn't matter' doogs always come around to say 'it doesn't matter' - then two years later when shit is in the toilet on whatever issue Pepsi and I are freaking out about when we see shit getting out of control, it's like 'oh, well, it was obvious something had to be done about it'.
Fucking Christ.
Yeah, because me making fun of you for caring so much about 2 metro programs off the cuff thoughts definitely means I don't think recruiting matters.
Wake me up when this jilted lover drama is happening at schools that consistently produce studs. -
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be. -
It's still early. Bailey Elder and AJ Vongphachanh aren't going to CWU because we failed to offer them in January. We're still trying to close the 2018 class.
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Fuck I don't care where they come from if they're good. As someone
said before if UW keeps putting up double digit win seasons then good
athletes will want to come here whether local or not. Pete doesn't need to
kiss the ass of local coaches for their not good enough players. He needs
to sell them on the narrative of those coaches improving their players enough
to earn a UW offer. We already offer a tremendously low number of kids and
that holds positive sway in the recruiting world. I don't want to see that damaged
by throwing bones to locals who aint good enough. This ain't on Pete, it's on the
local coaches to do a better job developing what they got. -
I DON'T REMEMBER WHY I SAID THAT I AM CRANKY BECAUSE OF THE CRUD.dnc said:
Answer the question about what I said that was preposterous about black kids!!!Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's not one coach man.dnc said:
What did I say that's preposterous about black kids? Literally all I said is he's gotten every black kid he wanted except Connor. And he has.Dennis_DeYoung said:
2. The black kid thing - you're not black so you don't get it. That's really all I can say when you say preposterous shit like that. UW missed on Tre'Shaun this year, Conner last year... but if you think that Thomas isn't tapping into some general resentment and anger there is in the SEA toward UW, you are a fucking moron. And it's not JUST black kids, but it's particularly black kids. You can say it SHOULDN'T be that way and you will pretend the way is the world you want it to be, but that doesn't mean fucking shit.
To misquote @NorwegianHusky "How are you writing all of these replies to dnc when you clearly don't know how to fucking read? You're ascribing opinions to him that he doesn't have."
And we'll just have to agree to disagree on Jimmy Lake. He got Gordon and Hampton signed before the promotion. They didn't promote him because he can't recruit now. They promoted him because if they didn't he would have gotten the promotion somewhere else.
And you talked to one high school coach so therefore you think there's a narrative growing throughout the state. This is the problem with inside information. People think one person who knows a little means a whole lot more than it does.
HS coaches may not love Pete.That's not going to keep their kids from coming to UW when UW wants them.
It's pretty much every in state coach I know and have heard from... maybe 15?
Also AGAIN I'm not saying they're right...
But, look at this last week... we offered 20 out of state kids and ZERO in-state kids.
Now *I UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE DOING THAT* - got it - do you get it? I DENNIS DEYOUNG PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND IT...
...but I guarantee you there is a lot of butthurt at schools when they see people from fucking Kansas tweeting out offers from UW and UW has literally offered TWO in-state kids.
These schools are 'inner shitty' 'suburban' 'rural' traditionally good, not so much, etc.
You think Sumner feels great about the way they treated Ben Wilson? lol fuck no.
Now, IDGAF about Ben Wilson. I would have taken him, but I like Tafisi better. Whatever... it doesn't fucking matter. But they offered some fireplug out of TX instead of Ben, then when that shit went south and it looked like they weren't going to get Kaho, they initiated contact with Ben after not talking with him consistently for months.
That's the shit that got Sark ex-communicated locally. This is a fickle fucking place.
The same reason UW can basically sweep everyone is the same reason they can lose everyone: WWa is provincial.
Other than ignoring that I have no issues whatsoever with this post. I agree with it completely. I'm the one who questioned wtf we haven't offered Elder yet.
Oh - my point is - I don't think Pete is Lambo, but I'm saying things break a lot quicker than they fix. There has been a perception in WWa forever that local black kids aren't included in UW's plans in the same way that local white kids are.
It was the case even when Ty was the coach. It's the same 206 Hoops shit. It's stupid. But it's been there forever... and once that shit takes hold, it's hard to shake.
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Watching the adults fight.
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I don't remember on Pease but Teq was definitely hard on Strausser toward the end of his tenure here.FremontTroll said:
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be.
