Pete not making friends with the FS high schools
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Answer the question about what I said that was preposterous about black kids!!!Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's not one coach man.dnc said:
What did I say that's preposterous about black kids? Literally all I said is he's gotten every black kid he wanted except Connor. And he has.Dennis_DeYoung said:
2. The black kid thing - you're not black so you don't get it. That's really all I can say when you say preposterous shit like that. UW missed on Tre'Shaun this year, Conner last year... but if you think that Thomas isn't tapping into some general resentment and anger there is in the SEA toward UW, you are a fucking moron. And it's not JUST black kids, but it's particularly black kids. You can say it SHOULDN'T be that way and you will pretend the way is the world you want it to be, but that doesn't mean fucking shit.
To misquote @NorwegianHusky "How are you writing all of these replies to dnc when you clearly don't know how to fucking read? You're ascribing opinions to him that he doesn't have."
And we'll just have to agree to disagree on Jimmy Lake. He got Gordon and Hampton signed before the promotion. They didn't promote him because he can't recruit now. They promoted him because if they didn't he would have gotten the promotion somewhere else.
And you talked to one high school coach so therefore you think there's a narrative growing throughout the state. This is the problem with inside information. People think one person who knows a little means a whole lot more than it does.
HS coaches may not love Pete.That's not going to keep their kids from coming to UW when UW wants them.
It's pretty much every in state coach I know and have heard from... maybe 15?
Also AGAIN I'm not saying they're right...
But, look at this last week... we offered 20 out of state kids and ZERO in-state kids.
Now *I UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE DOING THAT* - got it - do you get it? I DENNIS DEYOUNG PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND IT...
...but I guarantee you there is a lot of butthurt at schools when they see people from fucking Kansas tweeting out offers from UW and UW has literally offered TWO in-state kids.
These schools are 'inner shitty' 'suburban' 'rural' traditionally good, not so much, etc.
You think Sumner feels great about the way they treated Ben Wilson? lol fuck no.
Now, IDGAF about Ben Wilson. I would have taken him, but I like Tafisi better. Whatever... it doesn't fucking matter. But they offered some fireplug out of TX instead of Ben, then when that shit went south and it looked like they weren't going to get Kaho, they initiated contact with Ben after not talking with him consistently for months.
That's the shit that got Sark ex-communicated locally. This is a fickle fucking place.
The same reason UW can basically sweep everyone is the same reason they can lose everyone: WWa is provincial.
Other than ignoring that I have no issues whatsoever with this post. I agree with it completely. I'm the one who questioned wtf we haven't offered Elder yet. -
Yeah, that's my point - you hit it on the head.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Holy shit ddy is pressing in this thread
So the program is in trouble because EWU kids are not getting UW offers?
Honestly fuck off DDY. You dont know 1/10th as much as you think you do about football
Jesus fuck.
The resident 'recruiting doesn't matter' doogs always come around to say 'it doesn't matter' - then two years later when shit is in the toilet on whatever issue Pepsi and I are freaking out about when we see shit getting out of control, it's like 'oh, well, it was obvious something had to be done about it'.
Fucking Christ. -
Look at that, we agree!Tequilla said:Seattle and the PNW is the sensitive of the sensitive in this country ... this isn’t a new development
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Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yeah, that's my point - you hit it on the head.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Holy shit ddy is pressing in this thread
So the program is in trouble because EWU kids are not getting UW offers?
Honestly fuck off DDY. You dont know 1/10th as much as you think you do about football
Jesus fuck.
The resident 'recruiting doesn't matter' doogs always come around to say 'it doesn't matter' - then two years later when shit is in the toilet on whatever issue Pepsi and I are freaking out about when we see shit getting out of control, it's like 'oh, well, it was obvious something had to be done about it'.
Fucking Christ.
Yeah, because me making fun of you for caring so much about 2 metro programs off the cuff thoughts definitely means I don't think recruiting matters.
Wake me up when this jilted lover drama is happening at schools that consistently produce studs. -
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be. -
It's still early. Bailey Elder and AJ Vongphachanh aren't going to CWU because we failed to offer them in January. We're still trying to close the 2018 class.
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Fuck I don't care where they come from if they're good. As someone
said before if UW keeps putting up double digit win seasons then good
athletes will want to come here whether local or not. Pete doesn't need to
kiss the ass of local coaches for their not good enough players. He needs
to sell them on the narrative of those coaches improving their players enough
to earn a UW offer. We already offer a tremendously low number of kids and
that holds positive sway in the recruiting world. I don't want to see that damaged
by throwing bones to locals who aint good enough. This ain't on Pete, it's on the
local coaches to do a better job developing what they got. -
I DON'T REMEMBER WHY I SAID THAT I AM CRANKY BECAUSE OF THE CRUD.dnc said:
Answer the question about what I said that was preposterous about black kids!!!Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's not one coach man.dnc said:
What did I say that's preposterous about black kids? Literally all I said is he's gotten every black kid he wanted except Connor. And he has.Dennis_DeYoung said:
2. The black kid thing - you're not black so you don't get it. That's really all I can say when you say preposterous shit like that. UW missed on Tre'Shaun this year, Conner last year... but if you think that Thomas isn't tapping into some general resentment and anger there is in the SEA toward UW, you are a fucking moron. And it's not JUST black kids, but it's particularly black kids. You can say it SHOULDN'T be that way and you will pretend the way is the world you want it to be, but that doesn't mean fucking shit.
To misquote @NorwegianHusky "How are you writing all of these replies to dnc when you clearly don't know how to fucking read? You're ascribing opinions to him that he doesn't have."
And we'll just have to agree to disagree on Jimmy Lake. He got Gordon and Hampton signed before the promotion. They didn't promote him because he can't recruit now. They promoted him because if they didn't he would have gotten the promotion somewhere else.
And you talked to one high school coach so therefore you think there's a narrative growing throughout the state. This is the problem with inside information. People think one person who knows a little means a whole lot more than it does.
HS coaches may not love Pete.That's not going to keep their kids from coming to UW when UW wants them.
It's pretty much every in state coach I know and have heard from... maybe 15?
Also AGAIN I'm not saying they're right...
But, look at this last week... we offered 20 out of state kids and ZERO in-state kids.
Now *I UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE DOING THAT* - got it - do you get it? I DENNIS DEYOUNG PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND IT...
...but I guarantee you there is a lot of butthurt at schools when they see people from fucking Kansas tweeting out offers from UW and UW has literally offered TWO in-state kids.
These schools are 'inner shitty' 'suburban' 'rural' traditionally good, not so much, etc.
You think Sumner feels great about the way they treated Ben Wilson? lol fuck no.
Now, IDGAF about Ben Wilson. I would have taken him, but I like Tafisi better. Whatever... it doesn't fucking matter. But they offered some fireplug out of TX instead of Ben, then when that shit went south and it looked like they weren't going to get Kaho, they initiated contact with Ben after not talking with him consistently for months.
That's the shit that got Sark ex-communicated locally. This is a fickle fucking place.
The same reason UW can basically sweep everyone is the same reason they can lose everyone: WWa is provincial.
Other than ignoring that I have no issues whatsoever with this post. I agree with it completely. I'm the one who questioned wtf we haven't offered Elder yet.
Oh - my point is - I don't think Pete is Lambo, but I'm saying things break a lot quicker than they fix. There has been a perception in WWa forever that local black kids aren't included in UW's plans in the same way that local white kids are.
It was the case even when Ty was the coach. It's the same 206 Hoops shit. It's stupid. But it's been there forever... and once that shit takes hold, it's hard to shake.
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Watching the adults fight.
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I don't remember on Pease but Teq was definitely hard on Strausser toward the end of his tenure here.FremontTroll said:
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be. -
The Lambo comparison is about how he lost in-state recruiting (particularly for AA players) ...dnc said:
No, what you're missing is that this is common fucking sense and praise be to Allah Pete has shown this ability. I have confidence he'll course correct as needed because he's course corrected thus far. That's why the Lambo comp is FS. Lambo never showed that ability.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be.
I have no problem with people pointing things out or questioning things or hypothesizing how they should be handled. Some people get too hysterical with it and far too confident in their own explanations of the "why" and expect others to take them as gospel.
They're not.
Sark lost in-state recruiting as well ...
We routinely produce between 5-10 D1 caliber P5 recruits a year ... our foundation is always those players ...
We clearly realize we need to increase the quality of our recruiting classes to compete nationally. What we can’t do is lose focus of our foundation in that pursuit. It’s a delicate line. -
I should pin my point on my local recruiting matters so much (especially for UW)... it's just a simple expected value calculation (and you can add some stuff about iteration in a closed community if you'd like to really do it up).whuggy said:Fuck I don't care where they come from if they're good. As someone
said before if UW keeps putting up double digit win seasons then good
athletes will want to come here whether local or not. Pete doesn't need to
kiss the ass of local coaches for their not good enough players. He needs
to sell them on the narrative of those coaches improving their players enough
to earn a UW offer. We already offer a tremendously low number of kids and
that holds positive sway in the recruiting world. I don't want to see that damaged
by throwing bones to locals who aint good enough. This ain't on Pete, it's on the
local coaches to do a better job developing what they got.
The truth is, it's mostly an issue about talent, not development. Development doesn't matter all that much (hence Kalepo and Ale).
The main thing is that 2020 and 2021 are two of the best in-state classes ever. We could conceivably get 7 4* players out of WA in each class. -
Yes, coincidentally the same time he went from #1 doog to DDY's head minion. Strange.dnc said:
I don't remember on Pease but Teq was definitely hard on Strausser toward the end of his tenure here.FremontTroll said:
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be. -
I was plenty critical of them when they were hereFremontTroll said:
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be. -
It is amazing how quickly this thread metastasized and @BallzDeep wasn't even involved.UW_Doog_Bot said:Watching the adults fight.
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I get it.Tequilla said:
The Lambo comparison is about how he lost in-state recruiting (particularly for AA players) ...dnc said:
No, what you're missing is that this is common fucking sense and praise be to Allah Pete has shown this ability. I have confidence he'll course correct as needed because he's course corrected thus far. That's why the Lambo comp is FS. Lambo never showed that ability.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be.
I have no problem with people pointing things out or questioning things or hypothesizing how they should be handled. Some people get too hysterical with it and far too confident in their own explanations of the "why" and expect others to take them as gospel.
They're not.
Sark lost in-state recruiting as well ...
We routinely produce between 5-10 D1 caliber P5 recruits a year ... our foundation is always those players ...
We clearly realize we need to increase the quality of our recruiting classes to compete nationally. What we can’t do is lose focus of our foundation in that pursuit. It’s a delicate line.
I'm just saying Pete's not going to lose in state recruiting. Lambo didn't win at a high level and Sark didn't win at a high level or develop talent well for the next level. Pete's a better coach than either of them AND better at getting his kids big contracts. He might be a stubborn prideful dude, but he's not FS like Lambo or Sark.
In state recruiting will be fine in 2019 and good to great in 2020 and 2021. -
I stopped reading part way through page 2 so maybe someone finally figured it out but it both matters and is really stupid . (I know ddy said this less clearly and in more words ... examples and that shit)
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people who type in ALL CAPS generally run the risk of obtuse inferences being missed.NorwegianHusky said:How are you writing all of these replies to Dennis when you clearly don't know how to fucking read? You're ascribing opinions to him that he doesn't have.
Nowhere did Dennis say that Peterman is an asshole or that he's ruining relationships with the local high school coaches. He fucking agreed with you guys that the high school coaches are morons and are creating drama for no reason. At no point did he blame coach Pete for this.
What Dennis is talking about is the fucking PERCEPTION that is starting to form out there. Whether or not that perception is fair (it's not) doesn't matter. Whether or not Peterman has done something wrong (he hasn't) doesn't matter. The fact is that the perception might be forming nonetheless.
What Dennis is saying is that it's Coach Pete's job to make sure that perception does take hold. The fact that the high school douche coaches are wrong doesn't mean that Peterman can tell them to go fuck a moving train. He has to do what he can to maintain those relationships and change the perception, whether it's unfair bullshit or not.
How hard is that to comprehend?
Fair is not the point. The fact is that it can get worse and hurt us in recruiting if we just ignore it like you doorknob-licking retards say we should.
Like it or not, maintaining good relationships with the sanctimonious asshole coaches of local high school programs is an important part of the job. -
@swaye know about dis?!dnc said:
I love you with all my heart but fuck you are the biggest drama queen I know and I'm married. To a woman.Dennis_DeYoung said:I love all you fuckbags in this thread calling the RB/Garf coaches morons - as if that fixes thing. Sure! They're morons! Done!
OF COURSE THEY'RE FUCKING MORONS. THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL COACHES AND 90% OF HIGH SCHOOL COACHES ARE FUCKING SNOWFLAKE FUCKS.
I've never met a person who spent considerable time in athletics who wasn't overly sensitive. It's the price you pay to be in a weird cult.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Three things:
1. Right or wrong, it makes no fucking difference. This shit represents a serious threat to Pete and his staff's ability to land the kind of players we need.
2. This modern era of 'tell them to go fuck themselves' is Marvel Movie blustery bullshit. You want to draw 5mil from UW every year? This is part of that job. It's a fucking disgrace that our populous now thinks that pragmatism is stupid and posing like you're in a fucking Batman movie is the way to get things done.
3. Last, it's not just Beach and Garfield that feel this way. As long as UW is handing out offers like candy to out of state kids (see the past week) and waiting to offer in state kids (again, see the past week) this will be a perception. I know for a fact that this is a narrative that's developed ACROSS THE STATE in the last year or so. This is just the beginning of this.
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Again, I think Beach is FS for this tweet. OBVIOUSLY. Fucking Kalepo is committed. Fucking WSU passed on all those kids too. WHO GIVES A FUCK?
I think Thomas is FS, but you guys are fucking complete morons about this tough guy shit. Being a head football coach, you have to be a diplomat as well. This may not hurt us this or next year, but when 2020 and 2021 roll around, if this shit metastasizes, we are going to be fucked by this for no reason.
It's a fucking battle of egos. Who gives a shit?
Just do whatever it takes to make these people feel like you give in-state players the first and most serious look. Go over your process with all the head coaches. Try and help these coaches get jobs at colleges. Whatever.
I don't like it, but it's part of the job.
Pete's gotta deal with it one way or another. -
Smartest thing anyone's said in the threadMad_Son said:I stopped reading part way through page 2
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That’s downright laughable ... anybody that has ever been in the same room as Dennis and I know that the reason our discussions are so good is because while we share so many similar principles that we approach problems and issues from different perspectives.FremontTroll said:
Yes, coincidentally the same time he went from #1 doog to DDY's head minion. Strange.dnc said:
I don't remember on Pease but Teq was definitely hard on Strausser toward the end of his tenure here.FremontTroll said:
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be. -
Just like I know about CLS. And Big Red. And Singapore Happy Endings ladyboi.guntlove said:
@swaye know about dis?!dnc said:
I love you with all my heart but fuck you are the biggest drama queen I know and I'm married. To a woman.Dennis_DeYoung said:I love all you fuckbags in this thread calling the RB/Garf coaches morons - as if that fixes thing. Sure! They're morons! Done!
OF COURSE THEY'RE FUCKING MORONS. THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL COACHES AND 90% OF HIGH SCHOOL COACHES ARE FUCKING SNOWFLAKE FUCKS.
I've never met a person who spent considerable time in athletics who wasn't overly sensitive. It's the price you pay to be in a weird cult.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Three things:
1. Right or wrong, it makes no fucking difference. This shit represents a serious threat to Pete and his staff's ability to land the kind of players we need.
2. This modern era of 'tell them to go fuck themselves' is Marvel Movie blustery bullshit. You want to draw 5mil from UW every year? This is part of that job. It's a fucking disgrace that our populous now thinks that pragmatism is stupid and posing like you're in a fucking Batman movie is the way to get things done.
3. Last, it's not just Beach and Garfield that feel this way. As long as UW is handing out offers like candy to out of state kids (see the past week) and waiting to offer in state kids (again, see the past week) this will be a perception. I know for a fact that this is a narrative that's developed ACROSS THE STATE in the last year or so. This is just the beginning of this.
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Again, I think Beach is FS for this tweet. OBVIOUSLY. Fucking Kalepo is committed. Fucking WSU passed on all those kids too. WHO GIVES A FUCK?
I think Thomas is FS, but you guys are fucking complete morons about this tough guy shit. Being a head football coach, you have to be a diplomat as well. This may not hurt us this or next year, but when 2020 and 2021 roll around, if this shit metastasizes, we are going to be fucked by this for no reason.
It's a fucking battle of egos. Who gives a shit?
Just do whatever it takes to make these people feel like you give in-state players the first and most serious look. Go over your process with all the head coaches. Try and help these coaches get jobs at colleges. Whatever.
I don't like it, but it's part of the job.
Pete's gotta deal with it one way or another.
Ours is an open relationship. -
Totally missing the point ...dnc said:
I get it.Tequilla said:
The Lambo comparison is about how he lost in-state recruiting (particularly for AA players) ...dnc said:
No, what you're missing is that this is common fucking sense and praise be to Allah Pete has shown this ability. I have confidence he'll course correct as needed because he's course corrected thus far. That's why the Lambo comp is FS. Lambo never showed that ability.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be.
I have no problem with people pointing things out or questioning things or hypothesizing how they should be handled. Some people get too hysterical with it and far too confident in their own explanations of the "why" and expect others to take them as gospel.
They're not.
Sark lost in-state recruiting as well ...
We routinely produce between 5-10 D1 caliber P5 recruits a year ... our foundation is always those players ...
We clearly realize we need to increase the quality of our recruiting classes to compete nationally. What we can’t do is lose focus of our foundation in that pursuit. It’s a delicate line.
I'm just saying Pete's not going to lose in state recruiting. Lambo didn't win at a high level and Sark didn't win at a high level or develop talent well for the next level. Pete's a better coach than either of them AND better at getting his kids big contracts. He might be a stubborn prideful dude, but he's not FS like Lambo or Sark.
In state recruiting will be fine in 2019 and good to great in 2020 and 2021.
Lambo was an arrogant prick that didn’t keep up with the times and just expected in-state kids to come to Washington
Sark was a used car salesman that came off as a lying sack of shit with zero credibility ... add to it his preference for Cali kids and there you go
In both cases on field performance was far from the only issue -
A little piece of me just died.dnc said:
I love you with all my heart but fuck you are the biggest drama queen I know and I'm married. To a woman.Dennis_DeYoung said:I love all you fuckbags in this thread calling the RB/Garf coaches morons - as if that fixes thing. Sure! They're morons! Done!
OF COURSE THEY'RE FUCKING MORONS. THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL COACHES AND 90% OF HIGH SCHOOL COACHES ARE FUCKING SNOWFLAKE FUCKS.
I've never met a person who spent considerable time in athletics who wasn't overly sensitive. It's the price you pay to be in a weird cult.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Three things:
1. Right or wrong, it makes no fucking difference. This shit represents a serious threat to Pete and his staff's ability to land the kind of players we need.
2. This modern era of 'tell them to go fuck themselves' is Marvel Movie blustery bullshit. You want to draw 5mil from UW every year? This is part of that job. It's a fucking disgrace that our populous now thinks that pragmatism is stupid and posing like you're in a fucking Batman movie is the way to get things done.
3. Last, it's not just Beach and Garfield that feel this way. As long as UW is handing out offers like candy to out of state kids (see the past week) and waiting to offer in state kids (again, see the past week) this will be a perception. I know for a fact that this is a narrative that's developed ACROSS THE STATE in the last year or so. This is just the beginning of this.
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Again, I think Beach is FS for this tweet. OBVIOUSLY. Fucking Kalepo is committed. Fucking WSU passed on all those kids too. WHO GIVES A FUCK?
I think Thomas is FS, but you guys are fucking complete morons about this tough guy shit. Being a head football coach, you have to be a diplomat as well. This may not hurt us this or next year, but when 2020 and 2021 roll around, if this shit metastasizes, we are going to be fucked by this for no reason.
It's a fucking battle of egos. Who gives a shit?
Just do whatever it takes to make these people feel like you give in-state players the first and most serious look. Go over your process with all the head coaches. Try and help these coaches get jobs at colleges. Whatever.
I don't like it, but it's part of the job.
Pete's gotta deal with it one way or another. -
Tequilla said:
That’s downright laughable ... anybody that has ever been in the sameFremontTroll said:
Yes, coincidentally the same time he went from #1 doog to DDY's head minion. Strange.dnc said:
I don't remember on Pease but Teq was definitely hard on Strausser toward the end of his tenure here.FremontTroll said:
Nobody was tougher on Pease and Strausser (after they were let go) than Tequilla.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be.roombasement as Dennis and I know that the reason our discussions are so good is because while we share so many similar principles that we approach problems and issues from different perspectives.
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*Goes to check the wham...dnc said:
Just like I know about CLS. And Big Red. And Singapore Happy Endings ladyboi.guntlove said:
@swaye know about dis?!dnc said:
I love you with all my heart but fuck you are the biggest drama queen I know and I'm married. To a woman.Dennis_DeYoung said:I love all you fuckbags in this thread calling the RB/Garf coaches morons - as if that fixes thing. Sure! They're morons! Done!
OF COURSE THEY'RE FUCKING MORONS. THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL COACHES AND 90% OF HIGH SCHOOL COACHES ARE FUCKING SNOWFLAKE FUCKS.
I've never met a person who spent considerable time in athletics who wasn't overly sensitive. It's the price you pay to be in a weird cult.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Three things:
1. Right or wrong, it makes no fucking difference. This shit represents a serious threat to Pete and his staff's ability to land the kind of players we need.
2. This modern era of 'tell them to go fuck themselves' is Marvel Movie blustery bullshit. You want to draw 5mil from UW every year? This is part of that job. It's a fucking disgrace that our populous now thinks that pragmatism is stupid and posing like you're in a fucking Batman movie is the way to get things done.
3. Last, it's not just Beach and Garfield that feel this way. As long as UW is handing out offers like candy to out of state kids (see the past week) and waiting to offer in state kids (again, see the past week) this will be a perception. I know for a fact that this is a narrative that's developed ACROSS THE STATE in the last year or so. This is just the beginning of this.
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Again, I think Beach is FS for this tweet. OBVIOUSLY. Fucking Kalepo is committed. Fucking WSU passed on all those kids too. WHO GIVES A FUCK?
I think Thomas is FS, but you guys are fucking complete morons about this tough guy shit. Being a head football coach, you have to be a diplomat as well. This may not hurt us this or next year, but when 2020 and 2021 roll around, if this shit metastasizes, we are going to be fucked by this for no reason.
It's a fucking battle of egos. Who gives a shit?
Just do whatever it takes to make these people feel like you give in-state players the first and most serious look. Go over your process with all the head coaches. Try and help these coaches get jobs at colleges. Whatever.
I don't like it, but it's part of the job.
Pete's gotta deal with it one way or another.
Ours is an open relationship. -
@RoadDawg55 (1-54 were already taken) is asian. HTH.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Well, you understand recruiting super well, so I'll just defer to you.RoadDawg55 said:
Thinking about how this affects us with Smalls is pretty fucking doogish imo.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Why? Because you want to send a message to these guys? To what fucking end?Meek said:Dennis_DeYoung said:I love all you fuckbags in this thread calling the RB/Garf coaches morons - as if that fixes thing. Sure! They're morons! Done!
OF COURSE THEY'RE FUCKING MORONS. THEY'RE HIGH SCHOOL COACHES AND 90% OF HIGH SCHOOL COACHES ARE FUCKING SNOWFLAKE FUCKS.
I've never met a person who spent considerable time in athletics who wasn't overly sensitive. It's the price you pay to be in a weird cult.
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
Three things:
1. Right or wrong, it makes no fucking difference. This shit represents a serious threat to Pete and his staff's ability to land the kind of players we need.
2. This modern era of 'tell them to go fuck themselves' is Marvel Movie blustery bullshit. You want to draw 5mil from UW every year? This is part of that job. It's a fucking disgrace that our populous now thinks that pragmatism is stupid and posing like you're in a fucking Batman movie is the way to get things done.
3. Last, it's not just Beach and Garfield that feel this way. As long as UW is handing out offers like candy to out of state kids (see the past week) and waiting to offer in state kids (again, see the past week) this will be a perception. I know for a fact that this is a narrative that's developed ACROSS THE STATE in the last year or so. This is just the beginning of this.
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Again, I think Beach is FS for this tweet. OBVIOUSLY. Fucking Kalepo is committed. Fucking WSU passed on all those kids too. WHO GIVES A FUCK?
I think Thomas is FS, but you guys are fucking complete morons about this tough guy shit. Being a head football coach, you have to be a diplomat as well. This may not hurt us this or next year, but when 2020 and 2021 roll around, if this shit metastasizes, we are going to be fucked by this for no reason.
It's a fucking battle of egos. Who gives a shit?
Just do whatever it takes to make these people feel like you give in-state players the first and most serious look. Go over your process with all the head coaches. Try and help these coaches get jobs at colleges. Whatever.
I don't like it, but it's part of the job.
Pete's gotta deal with it one way or another.
with all due respect i completely disagree with you on this.
Fuck man. Managing in-state HS coaches' egos is one of the top requirements of any fucking job.
Any time you guys agree with the Doogs on doogman you know you are adopting the FS position.
You guys are fucking morons on this.
You are making the dumb fucking mistake of equating 'not liking this and thinking the coaches are FS' to 'it doesn't matter'.
@dnc - if you have a wife, you know - she might get irrationally upset about something and it might not be a big deal and it might be completely invalid, etc, but you still have to fucking deal with it if you want peace.
You know who thought he could tell coaches to go fuck themselves and still win? Lambo.
Lambo could not get one decent fucking black player out of Washington at the end of his career. You guys don't remember that?
Well - guess who was around back then - talking to both the HS coaches and Lambo's staff?
ME, that's who.
And I can tell you - we do not want a repeat of that shit.
Also, I suspect everyone (except for @Swaye and I excuse him because he's angry at everyone) that sees this as not a problem is white. That tells you a lot. You think that shit doesn't matter, you're living in a fucking fairy land.
Don't be a fucking Doog dumbass.
I repeat: any time you guys agree with dawgman, you are the doogs. -
No shit.Tequilla said:
Totally missing the point ...dnc said:
I get it.Tequilla said:
The Lambo comparison is about how he lost in-state recruiting (particularly for AA players) ...dnc said:
No, what you're missing is that this is common fucking sense and praise be to Allah Pete has shown this ability. I have confidence he'll course correct as needed because he's course corrected thus far. That's why the Lambo comp is FS. Lambo never showed that ability.Tequilla said:The thing that you are missing @dnc is that if you aren’t actively monitoring what is going on around you that by the time you recognize that there is a problem it’s way too fucking late.
Why do you think that Pepsi, Dennis, and I railed so hard on Pease? Strausser? Malloe?
When you see trending that isn’t looking good you better damn well start course correcting. Malloe looks to be doing ok. Pease and Strausser never did. K is taking recruiting more seriously than ever.
Asking “why” every once in a while and being forward looking matters. If you are doing it right, you don’t need the results to tell you that you are successful because you already know what the results are going to be.
I have no problem with people pointing things out or questioning things or hypothesizing how they should be handled. Some people get too hysterical with it and far too confident in their own explanations of the "why" and expect others to take them as gospel.
They're not.
Sark lost in-state recruiting as well ...
We routinely produce between 5-10 D1 caliber P5 recruits a year ... our foundation is always those players ...
We clearly realize we need to increase the quality of our recruiting classes to compete nationally. What we can’t do is lose focus of our foundation in that pursuit. It’s a delicate line.
I'm just saying Pete's not going to lose in state recruiting. Lambo didn't win at a high level and Sark didn't win at a high level or develop talent well for the next level. Pete's a better coach than either of them AND better at getting his kids big contracts. He might be a stubborn prideful dude, but he's not FS like Lambo or Sark.
In state recruiting will be fine in 2019 and good to great in 2020 and 2021.
Lambo was an arrogant prick that didn’t keep up with the times and just expected in-state kids to come to Washington
Sark was a used car salesman that came off as a lying sack of shit with zero credibility ... add to it his preference for Cali kids and there you go
In both cases on field performance was far from the only issue
"(Pete) might be a stubborn prideful dude, but he's not FS like Lambo or Sark." -
it's just funny because DDY does not acknowledge Tequilla at all, but Tequilla needs to remember people that he and DDY share the same idea on every fucking post.
that said, I can see both points. there is no reason why kids like Justus Legg doesn't have a offer right now, because everyone knows he will end on UW. ditto for Bailey Elder. also, I would start giving some PWO offers to some of those average in-state kids, so UW can say: hey, we gave them a shot, they didn't want to compete.
but the relevant news is that there is a recruit called aj vongphachanh. what the fuck. -
Warned.RaceBannon said:Can we get back to what it takes for @dnc to get a piece from his wife?
