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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    The 1% did great under Obama because they do great under anyone. The middle and poor did not hence TRUMP

    Now we actually have a tax plan that helps the middle both on their taxes and on the taxes of the people they work for. So naturally the dems claim its for the 1%

    Liars lie its what they do

    It's factual the majority of the cut goes to the wealthy and businesses. Troomps hate facts.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    The 1% did great under Obama because they do great under anyone. The middle and poor did not hence TRUMP

    Now we actually have a tax plan that helps the middle both on their taxes and on the taxes of the people they work for. So naturally the dems claim its for the 1%

    Liars lie its what they do

    It's factual the majority of the cut goes to the wealthy and businesses. Troomps hate facts.
    Liars lie its what they do

    I already mentioned that employers tax cuts helps employees. And if you pay more you by basic math get a larger cut although the top rates got no cut at all

    The Washington Post called you a liar when this bullshit was first peddled.

    This cut helps the middle that Obama didn't do shit for. Since none of you dems voted for it you can just shut the fuck up and watch the growth
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    The 1% did great under Obama because they do great under anyone. The middle and poor did not hence TRUMP

    Now we actually have a tax plan that helps the middle both on their taxes and on the taxes of the people they work for. So naturally the dems claim its for the 1%

    Liars lie its what they do

    It's factual the majority of the cut goes to the wealthy and businesses. Troomps hate facts.
    Liars lie its what they do

    I already mentioned that employers tax cuts helps employees. And if you pay more you by basic math get a larger cut although the top rates got no cut at all

    The Washington Post called you a liar when this bullshit was first peddled.

    This cut helps the middle that Obama didn't do shit for. Since none of you dems voted for it you can just shut the fuck up and watch the growth
    Ok! Let's talk in a couple years when deficits go down like Republicans promised.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    she screamed, in her pouty third grade voice.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,045 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    The 1% did great under Obama because they do great under anyone. The middle and poor did not hence TRUMP

    Now we actually have a tax plan that helps the middle both on their taxes and on the taxes of the people they work for. So naturally the dems claim its for the 1%

    Liars lie its what they do

    It's factual the majority of the cut goes to the wealthy and businesses. Troomps hate facts.
    If you want to see Obama's dreamworld, simply visit Seattle. Lots of rich, incompetent, backward-ass faggy liberals busily ruining every aspect of life with huge government mandates targeted at working class and middle class folks while the limousine liberals remain untouched from the street-level vermin they create. Obama's Administration was the big, lazy, ineffective, dictatorial government I once thought Reagan was a fool to warn us about. Today's college campuses are full of true-blue "Obama liberals" and they are cesspools of shit verging on total collapse.

    I twice voted for the mother-fucker, and he shit the bed both times. His cowardice and spinelessness ruined all the mandates he was elected upon. History will not be kind to Obama, and it's his own goddamn fault.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    I'm taking home more money in my paycheck thanks to a rate decrease and it isn't table scraps

    The company I have a piece of will double our business at least thanks to the corporate tax cut that has our customers spending money bigly

    My company will pay less in taxes increasing my year end money grab

    My year end money grab will be taxed at a lower rate.

    I am the middle class and I support this tax cut
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    2001400ex said:

    RaceBannon said:

    The 1% did great under Obama because they do great under anyone. The middle and poor did not hence TRUMP

    Now we actually have a tax plan that helps the middle both on their taxes and on the taxes of the people they work for. So naturally the dems claim its for the 1%

    Liars lie its what they do

    It's factual the majority of the cut goes to the wealthy and businesses. Troomps hate facts.
    Liars lie its what they do

    I already mentioned that employers tax cuts helps employees. And if you pay more you by basic math get a larger cut although the top rates got no cut at all

    The Washington Post called you a liar when this bullshit was first peddled.

    This cut helps the middle that Obama didn't do shit for. Since none of you dems voted for it you can just shut the fuck up and watch the growth
    Ok! Let's talk in a couple years when deficits go down like Republicans promised.
    Why are you moving the goal posts?

    Revenue will go up and spending will go up faster just as always. At least there will be more revenue.

    Not increasing revenue won't stop spending
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    $1.5t in Bonds for infrastructure.

    Congressional races will hinge on Moneygrab and Candidates ability to bring home Our share locally
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    RaceBannon said:

    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo

    Is growth good if we're a cancer? When do we level off and refine ourselves to a quality that propels us for many centuries?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo

    Is growth good if we're a cancer? When do we level off and refine ourselves to a quality that propels us for many centuries?
    Maybe you should take a vow of poverty so you don't have to worry about it. Anyone can ask questions. How about some answers?

    America is propelled into its third century of each generation doing better than the one before. If you have a better plan we'd like to hear it.

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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo

    Is growth good if we're a cancer? When do we level off and refine ourselves to a quality that propels us for many centuries?
    Maybe you should take a vow of poverty so you don't have to worry about it. Anyone can ask questions. How about some answers?

    America is propelled into its third century of each generation doing better than the one before. If you have a better plan we'd like to hear it.

    Questions are required for good objective analysis and evaluation, its part of thinking critically. I do not agree with the rest of your statement and would prefer to stay away from a petty line of discourse in respect to the other part.
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo

    Is growth good if we're a cancer? When do we level off and refine ourselves to a quality that propels us for many centuries?
    No worries young Padwan, Mother Earth will open up and swallow you once your time is right. The same for everyone else.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    Gwad said:

    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?

    No
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?

    No
    So America is great but it isnt? Schrodinger is that you?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?

    No
    So America is great but it isnt? Schrodinger is that you?
    Look question boy when you want to have an actual discussion I'm here every day. Don't insult my intelligence and I won't think that your questions make you sound stupid
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?

    No
    So America is great but it isnt? Schrodinger is that you?
    Look question boy when you want to have an actual discussion I'm here every day. Don't insult my intelligence and I won't think that your questions make you sound stupid
    Why do you think I am trying to insult your intelligence? This is not my intention. Questions with the intent of seeing the others point of view are part of having a healthy discussion in my opinion. I don't think a question makes someone look stupid, it shows me they are exercising their inquiring mind.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    Tell me what your issue is with growth, prosperity, and personal wealth.

    Are you poor and happy to be that way? Did you earn your own way? Did daddy work hard and leave you a lot of money so you can be a philosopher?

    My inquiring mind wants to know
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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?

    No
    So America is great but it isnt? Schrodinger is that you?
    Look question boy when you want to have an actual discussion I'm here every day. Don't insult my intelligence and I won't think that your questions make you sound stupid
    Why do you think I am trying to insult your intelligence? This is not my intention. Questions with the intent of seeing the others point of view are part of having a healthy discussion in my opinion. I don't think a question makes someone look stupid, it shows me they are exercising their inquiring mind.


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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo

    Is growth good if we're a cancer? When do we level off and refine ourselves to a quality that propels us for many centuries?
    So your saying we should stop being so productive?
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited February 2018
    No issue with these things. I just don't see them in a society that looks at a number labeled GDP. It just puts us off the mark of what is really important. Their is plenty of information on the fall of past societies and how they made these same mistakes.

    Yes I live In conditions that put me under the poverty line, Its not so bad life is pretty simple. It has put me on a path of training my body and mind instead of worrying about what items I have or don't have. All my needs are met and I work a Job. No but my father did pass on a gift of self reflection though which I am blessed to have.
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited February 2018
    HoustonHusky said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?

    No
    So America is great but it isnt? Schrodinger is that you?
    Look question boy when you want to have an actual discussion I'm here every day. Don't insult my intelligence and I won't think that your questions make you sound stupid
    Why do you think I am trying to insult your intelligence? This is not my intention. Questions with the intent of seeing the others point of view are part of having a healthy discussion in my opinion. I don't think a question makes someone look stupid, it shows me they are exercising their inquiring mind.


    https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/asking_questions
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    CuntWaffle said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo

    Is growth good if we're a cancer? When do we level off and refine ourselves to a quality that propels us for many centuries?
    So your saying we should stop being so productive?
    I'm saying we should strive for quality which is not about how much but how good.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,912 Standard Supporter
    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    https://cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html

    More grim news for hondo

    Is growth good if we're a cancer? When do we level off and refine ourselves to a quality that propels us for many centuries?
    When we stop illegals and vermin ridden from shithole countries from fucking up the place and draining our resources.
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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    Gwad said:



    HoustonHusky said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Gwad said:

    I am also confused on your position of America in a continual upward movement through three centuries. This confusion comes from Trump being elected on the grounds of 'Making America Great Again'. To regain that ideology of prosperity in America, does there not have to be a lack of that very thing? Could you please help me to understand your position; as you see I may be misunderstanding you?

    No
    So America is great but it isnt? Schrodinger is that you?
    Look question boy when you want to have an actual discussion I'm here every day. Don't insult my intelligence and I won't think that your questions make you sound stupid
    Why do you think I am trying to insult your intelligence? This is not my intention. Questions with the intent of seeing the others point of view are part of having a healthy discussion in my opinion. I don't think a question makes someone look stupid, it shows me they are exercising their inquiring mind.


    https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/asking_questions
    Thanks for the link to great quotes on questions from famous thought-leaders like Larry King, Britney Spears, Mary-Kate Olsen, and Nicholas Sparks...kinda goes to further my point...
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,236 Founders Club
    I've been dead ass broke fairly recently. Did a podcast on it. Didn't mind it but all in all I'd rather be able to support myself and help others.

    The love of money can send one down a dark path but so can not having money.

    Moderation in all things. The great philosophers of the Renaissance had wealthy benefactors to allow them to think or create art.

    Nothing is free.

    So again, what's your better idea than growth and wealth and prosperous citizenship?
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,912 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    I've been dead ass broke fairly recently. Did a podcast on it. Didn't mind it but all in all I'd rather be able to support myself and help others.

    The love of money can send one down a dark path but so can not having money.

    Moderation in all things. The great philosophers of the Renaissance had wealthy benefactors to allow them to think or create art.

    Nothing is free.

    So again, what's your better idea than growth and wealth and prosperous citizenship?

    Just so you weren't walking Santa Monica blvd.
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited February 2018
    Yes your unknown point. @HoustonHusky
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    RaceBannon said:

    I've been dead ass broke fairly recently. Did a podcast on it. Didn't mind it but all in all I'd rather be able to support myself and help others.

    The love of money can send one down a dark path but so can not having money.

    Moderation in all things. The great philosophers of the Renaissance had wealthy benefactors to allow them to think or create art.

    Nothing is free.

    So again, what's your better idea than growth and wealth and prosperous citizenship?

    Maybe you are not understanding me correctly? I am just not for the Gross Domestic Product as a sign of a healthy society.

    GDP: "the total value of goods produced and services provided in a country during one year."

    I think there is more to it than that. Do you not agree?
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