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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
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    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    I'll be surprised if it's true

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    That sounds like something a terrorist would do.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
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    AZDuck said:

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    What a sexist, condescending response to a female journalist.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    I urge all my fellow gun owners to wise up and get ahead of this shit, now. If we don't prescribe the remedies they will be shoved up our asses. Stonewalling isn't going to work anymore. The old arguments don't meet the facts of what happened in Vegas. Let go of automatic modifiers and large capacity magazines before they are taken by force along with a laundry list of other shit that paranoid lefties want to make illegal.

    If the Feds will kill Randy Weaver's wife and kid for showing a guy how to shorten a shotgun, they sure as shit will storm houses to remove "assault" weapons after another ban goes into effect.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    I urge all my fellow gun owners to wise up and get ahead of this shit, now. If we don't prescribe the remedies they will be shoved up our asses. Stonewalling isn't going to work anymore. The old arguments don't meet the facts of what happened in Vegas. Let go of automatic modifiers and large capacity magazines before they are taken by force along with a laundry list of other shit that paranoid lefties want to make illegal.

    If the Feds will kill Randy Weaver's wife and kid for showing a guy how to shorten a shotgun, they sure as shit will storm houses to remove "assault" weapons after another ban goes into effect.
    I'm quite fond of having things shoved up my ass, so I'll wait.

    #pegging
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
    How do you figure? He hit close to 600 people in those 9 minutes, more than 1 a second.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    I urge all my fellow gun owners to wise up and get ahead of this shit, now. If we don't prescribe the remedies they will be shoved up our asses. Stonewalling isn't going to work anymore. The old arguments don't meet the facts of what happened in Vegas. Let go of automatic modifiers and large capacity magazines before they are taken by force along with a laundry list of other shit that paranoid lefties want to make illegal.

    If the Feds will kill Randy Weaver's wife and kid for showing a guy how to shorten a shotgun, they sure as shit will storm houses to remove "assault" weapons after another ban goes into effect.
    I'm quite fond of having things shoved up my ass, so I'll wait.

    #pegging
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
    Have you ever fired a weapon? Full auto spray into a crowd is going to be infinitely more effective. You get three or four shots then people start running and you aren't hitting much after that.

    There are like 600 people injured.

    The Nazis were smarter than you, WAY smarter. There is a reason they had machine guns in those pill boxes on the beach and not a dude with a scope.

    When soldiers came under fire in Vietnam they instantly called for the M-60 to get to the front, not a guy with a scope.

    Just say you're an old white guy so you are irrational and that was ok during your prime. Everyone here already knows this. Race evolved a little, you didn't.
    YVBE
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
    Have you ever fired a weapon? Full auto spray into a crowd is going to be infinitely more effective. You get three or four shots then people start running and you aren't hitting much after that.

    There are like 600 people injured.

    The Nazis were smarter than you, WAY smarter. There is a reason they had machine guns in those pill boxes on the beach and not a dude with a scope.

    When soldiers came under fire in Vietnam they instantly called for the M-60 to get to the front, not a guy with a scope.

    Just say you're an old white guy so you are irrational and that was ok during your prime. Everyone here already knows this. Race evolved a little, you didn't.
    YVBE
    Go Army! TYFYS.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    PurpleThrobber said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    I urge all my fellow gun owners to wise up and get ahead of this shit, now. If we don't prescribe the remedies they will be shoved up our asses. Stonewalling isn't going to work anymore. The old arguments don't meet the facts of what happened in Vegas. Let go of automatic modifiers and large capacity magazines before they are taken by force along with a laundry list of other shit that paranoid lefties want to make illegal.

    If the Feds will kill Randy Weaver's wife and kid for showing a guy how to shorten a shotgun, they sure as shit will storm houses to remove "assault" weapons after another ban goes into effect.
    I'm quite fond of having things shoved up my ass, so I'll wait.

    #pegging
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    Oh god, oh god....70's bush.

    Does Raquel show bush in this film? I haven't seen it; am just familiar with the scene.
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  • PurpleThrobber
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    YellowSnow said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Swaye said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    I urge all my fellow gun owners to wise up and get ahead of this shit, now. If we don't prescribe the remedies they will be shoved up our asses. Stonewalling isn't going to work anymore. The old arguments don't meet the facts of what happened in Vegas. Let go of automatic modifiers and large capacity magazines before they are taken by force along with a laundry list of other shit that paranoid lefties want to make illegal.

    If the Feds will kill Randy Weaver's wife and kid for showing a guy how to shorten a shotgun, they sure as shit will storm houses to remove "assault" weapons after another ban goes into effect.
    I'm quite fond of having things shoved up my ass, so I'll wait.

    #pegging
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    Oh god, oh god....70's bush.

    Does Raquel show bush in this film? I haven't seen it; am just familiar with the scene.
    Ax @RaceBannon - he was there.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Actually I am de evolving
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    I urge all my fellow gun owners to wise up and get ahead of this shit, now. If we don't prescribe the remedies they will be shoved up our asses. Stonewalling isn't going to work anymore. The old arguments don't meet the facts of what happened in Vegas. Let go of automatic modifiers and large capacity magazines before they are taken by force along with a laundry list of other shit that paranoid lefties want to make illegal.

    If the Feds will kill Randy Weaver's wife and kid for showing a guy how to shorten a shotgun, they sure as shit will storm houses to remove "assault" weapons after another ban goes into effect.
    so your saying, we've been warned?
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Vegas shooter booked room in Chicago during Lollapalooza

    Looking more and more like this wasn't politically motivated in either direction. Dude just really wanted to kill a lot of people.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    He was also in Boston


    And

    One of the great travesties of life is no nude shots of Raquel. At all. I had her 10,000 BC poster. As close as it gets. She may have a wet white shirt shot in a Jim Brown movie

    It's not too late, I'd take one of her 70 year old tits
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
    Have you ever fired a weapon? Full auto spray into a crowd is going to be infinitely more effective. You get three or four shots then people start running and you aren't hitting much after that.

    There are like 600 people injured.

    The Nazis were smarter than you, WAY smarter. There is a reason they had machine guns in those pill boxes on the beach and not a dude with a scope.

    When soldiers came under fire in Vietnam they instantly called for the M-60 to get to the front, not a guy with a scope.

    Just say you're an old white guy so you are irrational and that was ok during your prime. Everyone here already knows this. Race evolved a little, you didn't.
    I've trained with, trained others, fired and competed at the world class level with weapons all my life including full auto belt feds, assault rifles , pistols and SMG's and was in the firearms business for a very long time. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about firearms. I am also a Superior court certified firearms expert. What's your qualifications?

    You could definitely kill more people with aimed fire. Injuries maybe or maybe not but we don't how many injuries came from the stampede. There were several stampede victims in the level one trauma center. How many were just injured by the stampede? Certainly many injured by bullet fragments by all the bullets striking the ground and some by pass through shots which would most likely be 7.62 NATO rounds.. Looks like he was using ball ammo.

    He wasn't firing 1200 RPM cyclic rate fixed mount MG42's, MG34's or a 23lb M60 on a bipod.

    How many full auto M16's type or 7.62 NATO shoulder fired rifles have you shot? 7.62 NATO rifles in full auto are pretty much uncontrollable for anything buy short burst of a few rounds at pretty close range. I've fired a number of them and they were actual full autos not fitted with Slide Fire stocks which make controllable accuracy quite a bit more difficult. Even an AR type 5.56mm rifle on a bump stock would be pretty tough to keep in a football field or larger at that distance. Hell you can bump fire a gun with your thumb hooked through your belt loop.

    I am older now and just getting back into competition. My legs ain't as fast as they used to be but my hands still work just fine. I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,662 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
    Have you ever fired a weapon? Full auto spray into a crowd is going to be infinitely more effective. You get three or four shots then people start running and you aren't hitting much after that.

    There are like 600 people injured.

    The Nazis were smarter than you, WAY smarter. There is a reason they had machine guns in those pill boxes on the beach and not a dude with a scope.

    When soldiers came under fire in Vietnam they instantly called for the M-60 to get to the front, not a guy with a scope.

    Just say you're an old white guy so you are irrational and that was ok during your prime. Everyone here already knows this. Race evolved a little, you didn't.
    I've trained with, trained others, fired and competed at the world class level with weapons all my life including full auto belt feds, assault rifles , pistols and SMG's and was in the firearms business for a very long time. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about firearms. I am also a Superior court certified firearms expert. What's your qualifications?

    You could definitely kill more people with aimed fire. Injuries maybe or maybe not but we don't how many injuries came from the stampede. There were several stampede victims in the level one trauma center. How many were just injured by the stampede? Certainly many injured by bullet fragments by all the bullets striking the ground and some by pass through shots which would most likely be 7.62 NATO rounds.. Looks like he was using ball ammo.

    He wasn't firing 1200 RPM cyclic rate fixed mount MG42's, MG34's or a 23lb M60 on a bipod.

    How many full auto M16's type or 7.62 NATO shoulder fired rifles have you shot? 7.62 NATO rifles in full auto are pretty much uncontrollable for anything buy short burst of a few rounds at pretty close range. I've fired a number of them and they were actual full autos not fitted with Slide Fire stocks which make controllable accuracy quite a bit more difficult. Even an AR type 5.56mm rifle on a bump stock would be pretty tough to keep in a football field or larger at that distance. Hell you can bump fire a gun with your thumb hooked through your belt loop.

    I am older now and just getting back into competition. My legs ain't as fast as they used to be but my hands still work just fine. I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was.
    Navy Seals gorilla warfare POTD
    Odd there are so many Navy Seals on the internet.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    If so, we know where they were REALLY trained.
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  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
    Have you ever fired a weapon? Full auto spray into a crowd is going to be infinitely more effective. You get three or four shots then people start running and you aren't hitting much after that.

    There are like 600 people injured.

    The Nazis were smarter than you, WAY smarter. There is a reason they had machine guns in those pill boxes on the beach and not a dude with a scope.

    When soldiers came under fire in Vietnam they instantly called for the M-60 to get to the front, not a guy with a scope.

    Just say you're an old white guy so you are irrational and that was ok during your prime. Everyone here already knows this. Race evolved a little, you didn't.
    I've trained with, trained others, fired and competed at the world class level with weapons all my life including full auto belt feds, assault rifles , pistols and SMG's and was in the firearms business for a very long time. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about firearms. I am also a Superior court certified firearms expert. What's your qualifications?

    You could definitely kill more people with aimed fire. Injuries maybe or maybe not but we don't how many injuries came from the stampede. There were several stampede victims in the level one trauma center. How many were just injured by the stampede? Certainly many injured by bullet fragments by all the bullets striking the ground and some by pass through shots which would most likely be 7.62 NATO rounds.. Looks like he was using ball ammo.

    He wasn't firing 1200 RPM cyclic rate fixed mount MG42's, MG34's or a 23lb M60 on a bipod.

    How many full auto M16's type or 7.62 NATO shoulder fired rifles have you shot? 7.62 NATO rifles in full auto are pretty much uncontrollable for anything buy short burst of a few rounds at pretty close range. I've fired a number of them and they were actual full autos not fitted with Slide Fire stocks which make controllable accuracy quite a bit more difficult. Even an AR type 5.56mm rifle on a bump stock would be pretty tough to keep in a football field or larger at that distance. Hell you can bump fire a gun with your thumb hooked through your belt loop.

    I am older now and just getting back into competition. My legs ain't as fast as they used to be but my hands still work just fine. I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was.
    Navy Seals gorilla warfare POTD
    *guerrilla .... I see what you did there
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Southerndawg said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    TurdBuffer said:

    Sledog said:

    One of the best articles I've read on the situation. The founders were unbelievably wise men.

    http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/varvel/2017/10/03/varvel-las-vegas-shooter-had-heart-problem/726992001/

    Limits and restrictions are on the way. Gun owners are going to lose this fight and fuck it up for everyone if they don't remedy the situation themselves. The old saw that guns don't kill people, while theoretically true, doesn't hold in situations like this. Automatic weapons killed way too many people this time and arguments that a suicide bomber or asteroid could kill just as many or more aren't going to fly this time.
    Don't tell anyone but it could have been worse if one simply used three guns semi auto only with a scope.
    No. Just no.
    Absolutely. Even bolt guns. 9+ minutes.
    Have you ever fired a weapon? Full auto spray into a crowd is going to be infinitely more effective. You get three or four shots then people start running and you aren't hitting much after that.

    There are like 600 people injured.

    The Nazis were smarter than you, WAY smarter. There is a reason they had machine guns in those pill boxes on the beach and not a dude with a scope.

    When soldiers came under fire in Vietnam they instantly called for the M-60 to get to the front, not a guy with a scope.

    Just say you're an old white guy so you are irrational and that was ok during your prime. Everyone here already knows this. Race evolved a little, you didn't.
    I've trained with, trained others, fired and competed at the world class level with weapons all my life including full auto belt feds, assault rifles , pistols and SMG's and was in the firearms business for a very long time. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know about firearms. I am also a Superior court certified firearms expert. What's your qualifications?

    You could definitely kill more people with aimed fire. Injuries maybe or maybe not but we don't how many injuries came from the stampede. There were several stampede victims in the level one trauma center. How many were just injured by the stampede? Certainly many injured by bullet fragments by all the bullets striking the ground and some by pass through shots which would most likely be 7.62 NATO rounds.. Looks like he was using ball ammo.

    He wasn't firing 1200 RPM cyclic rate fixed mount MG42's, MG34's or a 23lb M60 on a bipod.

    How many full auto M16's type or 7.62 NATO shoulder fired rifles have you shot? 7.62 NATO rifles in full auto are pretty much uncontrollable for anything buy short burst of a few rounds at pretty close range. I've fired a number of them and they were actual full autos not fitted with Slide Fire stocks which make controllable accuracy quite a bit more difficult. Even an AR type 5.56mm rifle on a bump stock would be pretty tough to keep in a football field or larger at that distance. Hell you can bump fire a gun with your thumb hooked through your belt loop.

    I am older now and just getting back into competition. My legs ain't as fast as they used to be but my hands still work just fine. I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Bollards.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

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    Bollards.

    Awesome! Thanks for the updates
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  • PurpleThrobber
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    AZDuck said:

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    Bollards.

    Needs more work on the zone option reads.
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