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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    We could give everyone bullet proof Bat Suits too

    Or, you know, regulate guns like we do cars. Mandatory training for licensing and transfer of registered title for sales outside the family.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,728
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    AZDuck said:

    We could give everyone bullet proof Bat Suits too

    Or, you know, regulate guns like we do cars. Mandatory training for licensing and transfer of registered title for sales outside the family.
    If only criminals and terrorists would follow the damn law
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    AZDuck said:

    We could give everyone bullet proof Bat Suits too

    Or, you know, regulate guns like we do cars. Mandatory training for licensing and transfer of registered title for sales outside the family.
    If only criminals and terrorists would follow the damn law
    I think you'd be surprised by how many people this would deter.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    I certainly would be


    I'd also become an arms dealer

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,039
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    A right winger wouldn't shoot up a country concert which is generally filled with conservatives.

    There is a photo and video of an anti-Trump protest in Reno floating around pointing out a guy that sure looks like this guy as a Trump protester wearing a pink NASA shirt and a pussy hat. No idea if it's really him but definitely looks like him.

    Put your bet down Sven.
    So possibly attending a Trump Protest in Reno based on some hack website grainy photo to gunning down 600 people doesn't seem like a bit of a reach to you?
    Just trying to place bet. Others said right wing nut jobs.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,039
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    There is no way to prevent attacks. There are so many different ways to attack public gatherings. THe only way to stop attacks is to outlaw the gatherings. Just scaring people in a large into a panic could kill more than this incident. Port Said soccer riots had 74 dead and 500 injured.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,039
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    A right winger wouldn't shoot up a country concert which is generally filled with conservatives.

    There is a photo and video of an anti-Trump protest in Reno floating around pointing out a guy that sure looks like this guy as a Trump protester wearing a pink NASA shirt and a pussy hat. No idea if it's really him but definitely looks like him.

    Put your bet down Sven.
    I don't know and neither do you.

    Fuck off.
    I actually knew one of the dead victims from the concert. They ate at my table and lived near me. I had met another that has died and one that's wounded. Several other people I know were at the concert. Several friends children were at the concert. Hard to wrap your head around why someone would commit such an act of evil.
    Hard to wrap your head around why you blame liberals with no evidence to the fact. And if you are so distraught with the deaths, that you think maintaining the status quo is the best option for the country.
    You had to go there. Careful what you wish for!
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,751
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    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    A right winger wouldn't shoot up a country concert which is generally filled with conservatives.

    There is a photo and video of an anti-Trump protest in Reno floating around pointing out a guy that sure looks like this guy as a Trump protester wearing a pink NASA shirt and a pussy hat. No idea if it's really him but definitely looks like him.

    Put your bet down Sven.
    So possibly attending a Trump Protest in Reno based on some hack website grainy photo to gunning down 600 people doesn't seem like a bit of a reach to you?
    Just trying to place bet. Others said right wing nut jobs.
    I'll bet you a 1000 Wei$er Bucks that #trumphate was not the motive for this shooting.


    I'm good for it, axe @NYCdawg.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,039
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    A right winger wouldn't shoot up a country concert which is generally filled with conservatives.

    There is a photo and video of an anti-Trump protest in Reno floating around pointing out a guy that sure looks like this guy as a Trump protester wearing a pink NASA shirt and a pussy hat. No idea if it's really him but definitely looks like him.

    Put your bet down Sven.
    So possibly attending a Trump Protest in Reno based on some hack website grainy photo to gunning down 600 people doesn't seem like a bit of a reach to you?
    Just trying to place bet. Others said right wing nut jobs.
    I'll bet you a 1000 Wei$er Bucks that #trumphate was not the motive for this shooting.


    I'm good for it, axe @NYCdawg.
    I said left wingnut or ISIS. Sven was going for right wingers.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,728
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    Shooter was a former IRS agent. Case closed

    It looks like the truth is in the Philippines

    LIPO
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,952
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    Shooter was a former IRS agent. Case closed

    It looks like the truth is in the Philippines

    LIPO

    Agree. There is more to this tale than crazed lone gunman.

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    Bad_MotherDuckerBad_MotherDucker Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,312
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    Swaye said:

    More bollards

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    Triple Wood
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    Shooter was a former IRS agent. Case closed

    It looks like the truth is in the Philippines

    LIPO

    Pics?
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Sledog said:

    There is no way to prevent attacks. There are so many different ways to attack public gatherings. THe only way to stop attacks is to outlaw the gatherings. Just scaring people in a large into a panic could kill more than this incident. Port Said soccer riots had 74 dead and 500 injured.

    The United States Has Had More Mass Shootings Than Any Other Country
    Nearly one-third of the world’s mass shootings have occurred in the United States, a new study finds. Adam Lankford, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Alabama, has released the first quantitative analysis of public mass shootings around the world between 1966 through 2012. Unsurprisingly, the United States came out on top—essentially in a league of its own.


    Over those five decades, the United States had 90 public mass shootings, defined as shootings that killed four or more victims. Of the 170 other countries examined in the study, only four even made it to double-digits: The Philippines had 18 public mass shootings, followed by Russia with 15, Yemen with 11, and France with 10.

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,728
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    Freedom is messy remember? Those who would trade their freedom for safety deserve neither. Right?

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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Freedom is messy remember? Those who would trade their freedom for safety deserve neither. Right?

    Pretty sure the freest countries in the world do not include the Philippines, Russia, and Yemen.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,728
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    AZDuck said:

    Freedom is messy remember? Those who would trade their freedom for safety deserve neither. Right?

    Pretty sure the freest countries in the world do not include the Philippines, Russia, and Yemen.
    So? I'm talking America baby.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Freedom is messy remember? Those who would trade their freedom for safety deserve neither. Right?

    Meaningless anecdote is meaningless as always.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,039
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    Shooter was a former IRS agent. Case closed

    It looks like the truth is in the Philippines

    LIPO

    I would have bet on a postal worker.
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