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  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070
    Gopnik is a little over-the-top, but du Rivage's book/thesis sounds very interesting
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    tragic event - my first thought was OJ got released the day before? Conincidence? that is how this website has chinfluenced my thought processes
  • Woof
    Woof Member Posts: 770
    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    So you're saying that stringent backround checks and regulation of firearms saves lives?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    The Brady Bill needs to come back and not have a time limit.

    I loved how they reported that it isn't terrorism or linked to terrorism. Only brown people can be terrorists. If you tell white people that white people are terrorists you can't sell them fear anymore.

    This is over-simplified bullshit. It's terrorism when it's linked to a political cause or ideology and intended to intimidate, coerce, or just plain deter or kill opposition to one's own cause. It comes in all shapes and sizes when the relationship is established. If there isn't that relationship, then there's no cause to call it Terrorism.

    Let's make everything about race, though.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    AZDuck said:

    AZDuck said:



    It would be wrong to politicize this tragedy by discussing the relationship between easy access to firearms and mass shootings in the United States.

    Guns kill people, people don't kill people POTD.
    Just think of how many people this asshole could have killed by hurling knives and ninja stars from his hotel balcony instead of spraying the crowd with rifle fire.
    Automatic weapons and high capacity magazines are WMD's, period. They shouldn't be available to the general public regardless of their background check capabilities.
    This, I agree with. Notable absence of conspiracy theories and presumed inherent racism.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Mike "WTF" Damone lives!

    His relentless wtf''s without comment have been quite chincensitive and have hurt my feelings
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Maybe he was just Chinsensed over a YouTube video
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    Why not take them at their word and drop a few 500lb bombs on top of them in response?

    Lesson: Don't take credit for work that isn't yours. Cheaters get punished.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Maybe but there is no way this is some fuck who just snapped. Way too much planning. He's a terrorist. Just a matter of who was pulling his strings
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Possibly had some family members killed in the Crusades

    I laffed.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    Possibly had some family members killed in the Crusades

    I laffed, too. This place never fails to bring out the worst in me.

    Too soon, Race. You asshole.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I highly doubt his actions were motivated by islam. just seems like a complete wackjob
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    The father of the Las Vegas shooter was a career criminal and officially classified by the FBI as a psychopath.

    My guess is that the entire family new Paddock was off, but did not want to admit it.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    Watching the video the rate of fire sounds like about 5-600 RPM. That would match the AK. The M-16 is as high as 750 RPM. Could be any number of guns though. Possible it's a semi-auto with a crank trigger device or slide fire stock. Rate of fire seems to vary. Just watched another video with a pretty long string of fire. Pretty consistent. If this is an ISIS op, guy doesn't fit the profile, any kind of weapon would be possible. Guns are easy to get over the border.

    Wrong way. Guns go south, drugs go north.
    Yes that's why a US law enforcement officer was murdered. About 100 Mexicans have died because of those guns but you don't care about brown people.
    Well we all know how much you are concerned for the welfare of our Mexican neighbors.

    Anyway, the gun that killed the Border Patrol officer that you seem to be concerned with was purchased in Phoenix, smuggled into Mexico, and carried back into the US by drug smugglers.

    Which would seem to prove my point. Drugs go north, guns go south.

    It was purposely allowed to be purchased by a straw buyer at the behest of BATFE during Fast and Furious. It was then allowed to be smuggled into Mexico by BATFE. Maybe history ain't your bag. Call Barack Obunghole and Eric Holder. Maybe they can explain it to you as it was they who approved it.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,423 Founders Club

    Mike "WTF" Damone lives!

    10,000 is going to be speshul. Just wait.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Watching the video the rate of fire sounds like about 5-600 RPM. That would match the AK. The M-16 is as high as 750 RPM. Could be any number of guns though. Possible it's a semi-auto with a crank trigger device or slide fire stock. Rate of fire seems to vary. Just watched another video with a pretty long string of fire. Pretty consistent. If this is an ISIS op, guy doesn't fit the profile, any kind of weapon would be possible. Guns are easy to get over the border.

    Oops, looks like WTF belongs on you.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/vegas-shooters-weapons-cache-included-devices-enabling-automatic-gunfire-report-says.html
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited October 2017

    Mike "WTF" Damone lives!

    The Kohler recall hasn't been harder on anyone, moar than Damone.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Everyone knows 59 deaths is a tragedy. It's so fucking annoying how everyone has to let everybody else know they are praying for Vegas and what a tragedy this has been.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Everyone knows 59 deaths is a tragedy. It's so fucking annoying how everyone has to let everybody else know they are praying for Vegas and what a tragedy this has been.

    And you don't like Damone? He does the Ts&Ps mocking better than anyone. This is a pathetic, white-bread (or perhaps white rice?) summary of some of his best work.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    This is incorrect, but I am 50 rounds off. They used to have a 125 round barrel, but I can only find 100 round barrel mags with a quick 5.56 barrel mag search. You get the X locker with one and it's flip and pop and you're back at it. 200 rounds with a one second pause, on Google right now.

    Continue shit poasting though.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter
    Mosster47 said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    This is incorrect, but I am 50 rounds off. They used to have a 125 round barrel, but I can only find 100 round barrel mags with a quick 5.56 barrel mag search. You get the X locker with one and it's flip and pop and you're back at it. 200 rounds with a one second pause, on Google right now.

    Continue shit poasting though.
    Says the guy that doesn't even know the proper nomenclature..........
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    That.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,015

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    If 250 round magazines didn't exist and only five round magazines were accessable to the public like how they are sold in "hunting AR's" today then this shooting still happens, but is much slower and much less lethal.

    You could say they would make their own (they wouldn't) or they would get them from outside the US (not likely).

    People have ALWAYS gone crazy and guns have always existed. Look at the mass shooting numbers during the Brady Bill era and compare them to the period after them. When crazy has way more fucking rounds without having to stop to reload or even aim to wipe out hordes of people that's a common sense foul.

    Why can't you walk into Wal-Mart and buy a hand grenade? You know the fucking answer, but there is a pause when people talk about taking away 250 round barrel magazines. That's fucking retarded. News flash, an AR with 250 rounds is much more deadly than a hand grenade, yet hand grenades are way too dangerous to sell to the general public.

    I own more guns than 90% of America, but I'm not stupid. This has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Send over one a them 'thar 250 round magamazines will ya Shmarty pants?

    250 round belts yes, magazines no.

    This was Nevada where machine gun ownership is legal. But that means he passed an extensive FBI background check. IIRC there have only been 2 murders committed with legally owned machine guns. There's about 250,000 of them in the country.
    That's the best argument I've seen for stricter gun control. Nice work.
    Your argument is to install a "progressive" (code for commie) government. Can't do that while America is armed. That's why the left hates guns as they know they can never have that kind of control. If the left hated murders or murders of minorities, lefty run places like Shitcago would do something about black on black crime. It doesn't even bother you but then "the end justifies the means" eh comrade?

    This shooter is either ISIS as they claim or a liberal loon.
    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    That.
    Either way it will be chinteresting.