Guaranteed Basic Income
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Link to where this is taught anywhere. All I was taught in my econ classes was supply side economics.doogie said:Free income is fucked up theory pushed by academics
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Democratic National Convention.
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Lol what does the DNC have to do with academies?doogie said:Democratic National Convention.
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I'm enjoying doogie waxing eloquent about the poor kids at the yacht club
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It's a shame you can't read. No wonder why you want free money
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What's to read? Cut benefits to all the poor and old people (which is what he actually proposes...replacing every single govt assistance program including Medicare, SS, Medicaid, Disability, Earned Income Tax credit, Foodstamps, etc with $10k a year in money and $3k a year for medical) sounds great in theory, but you are FS if you think that will ever happen. And if you are trying to sell what he said as anything different you are just lying your ass off.YellowSnow said:Jesus, some of you guys are just like a bunch of Middlebury students. Why don't you take some free time and actually read the Charles Murray paper posted earlier on universal basic income before trotting out the same tired cliches. Murray's conservative and libertarian chops are fucking legit people. It's all theoretical obviously at this point but he lays down some pretty solid arguments.
And as he says if you don't do that then all of the critics of a "basic income" will probably be underestimating how bad implementing it would be.
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Calm down Cletus. The best thing about libertarians is the creativity of their ideas. In an era where our last presidential election was trump-Clinton, any new ideas are welcome. Theoretically appealing but practically implausible? Yeah, probably. At least someone is trying to think of better solutions.HoustonHusky said:
What's to read? Cut benefits to all the poor and old people (which is what he actually proposes...replacing every single govt assistance program including Medicare, SS, Medicaid, Disability, Earned Income Tax credit, Foodstamps, etc with $10k a year in money and $3k a year for medical) sounds great in theory, but you are FS if you think that will ever happen. And if you are trying to sell what he said as anything different you are just lying your ass off.YellowSnow said:Jesus, some of you guys are just like a bunch of Middlebury students. Why don't you take some free time and actually read the Charles Murray paper posted earlier on universal basic income before trotting out the same tired cliches. Murray's conservative and libertarian chops are fucking legit people. It's all theoretical obviously at this point but he lays down some pretty solid arguments.
And as he says if you don't do that then all of the critics of a "basic income" will probably be underestimating how bad implementing it would be.
But carry on now with your pipe dreams... -
I think the consolidation of aid programs is very possible with some new thinking. Could cost less
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The idea has been around since the 60's. And it tanks when it's realized that we're theorizing about the impossible: That poor people can be smart and good with money. Kind of a self-explanatory oxymoron.
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125 years ago we didn't trust poor people (who were a much larger fraction of society) with the vote. Or anybody with a vagina for that matter.TurdBuffer said:The idea has been around since the 60's. And it tanks when it's realized that we're theorizing about the impossible: That poor people can be smart and good with money. Kind of a self-explanatory oxymoron.
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As long as Somebody is Trying, that's all that matters.CirrhosisDawg said:
Calm down Cletus. The best thing about libertarians is the creativity of their ideas. In an era where our last presidential election was trump-Clinton, any new ideas are welcome. Theoretically appealing but practically implausible? Yeah, probably. At least someone is trying to think of better solutions.HoustonHusky said:
What's to read? Cut benefits to all the poor and old people (which is what he actually proposes...replacing every single govt assistance program including Medicare, SS, Medicaid, Disability, Earned Income Tax credit, Foodstamps, etc with $10k a year in money and $3k a year for medical) sounds great in theory, but you are FS if you think that will ever happen. And if you are trying to sell what he said as anything different you are just lying your ass off.YellowSnow said:Jesus, some of you guys are just like a bunch of Middlebury students. Why don't you take some free time and actually read the Charles Murray paper posted earlier on universal basic income before trotting out the same tired cliches. Murray's conservative and libertarian chops are fucking legit people. It's all theoretical obviously at this point but he lays down some pretty solid arguments.
And as he says if you don't do that then all of the critics of a "basic income" will probably be underestimating how bad implementing it would be.
But carry on now with your pipe dreams... -
The problem is that nothing is free or guaranteed in life. HTH
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I'm curious, why all the outrage over something that'll never happen? Like who is really calling for basic income that actually has any power to do so?
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Denial is strong with this one
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This most makes me rwa
Still okay with thoseAZDuck said:
125 years ago we didn't trust poor people (who were a much larger fraction of society) with the vote. Or anybody with a vagina for that matter.TurdBuffer said:The idea has been around since the 60's. And it tanks when it's realized that we're theorizing about the impossible: That poor people can be smart and good with money. Kind of a self-explanatory oxymoron.
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Things losers say when they know they've lost the argument.doogie said:Denial is strong with this one
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I like to come to a football message board that happens to have a sub forum for general chitchat and lecture the local degenerates on all of the economic theory I picked up from the three Econ classes I took at North Seattle community college. That's what I like to do.doogie said:Sorry, I took Econ not ekon. Share with us the beauty of monetization and dollar destruction so you and me are given free money by the government to spend on shit.
Please - tell me all about your theories on going back to the gold standard. Or better yet, why don't you just go drown yourself in the bathtub. -
Free income! Can I have some?dflea said: -
Alternative Minimum Tax
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Something you've never paid.doogie said:Alternative Minimum Tax
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What I thought.
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doogie said:dflea said:
Free labor?doogie said:Sobering. That pic is quite literally how Mom, her 5 bros and one sis, travelled from S. Dakota to Seattle in 1938 in a Model A. They would drive until running out of gas then Grandpa would take the 4 older boys to a farmhouse offering free labor in exchange for gas/food. Then repeat until they made it to North Bend. Took about a month, I'm told.
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And you took economics, huh?
yup, they were. Both Mom and Dad struggled during the depression to have daily food. Electricity didn't exist for either (most). Kids in the Yacht Club when I was growing up knew who earned it and who had it given to them. Adults did too.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Your whole family sounds poor.doogie said:Sobering. That pic is quite literally how Mom, her 5 bros and one sis, travelled from S. Dakota to Seattle in 1938 in a Model A. They would drive until running out of gas then Grandpa would take the 4 older boys to a farmhouse offering free labor in exchange for gas/food. Then repeat until they made it to North Bend. Took about a month, I'm told.
You are clearly redefining libertarianism.CirrhosisDawg said:
Calm down Cletus. The best thing about libertarians is the creativity of their ideas. In an era where our last presidential election was trump-Clinton, any new ideas are welcome. Theoretically appealing but practically implausible? Yeah, probably. At least someone is trying to think of better solutions.HoustonHusky said:
What's to read? Cut benefits to all the poor and old people (which is what he actually proposes...replacing every single govt assistance program including Medicare, SS, Medicaid, Disability, Earned Income Tax credit, Foodstamps, etc with $10k a year in money and $3k a year for medical) sounds great in theory, but you are FS if you think that will ever happen. And if you are trying to sell what he said as anything different you are just lying your ass off.YellowSnow said:Jesus, some of you guys are just like a bunch of Middlebury students. Why don't you take some free time and actually read the Charles Murray paper posted earlier on universal basic income before trotting out the same tired cliches. Murray's conservative and libertarian chops are fucking legit people. It's all theoretical obviously at this point but he lays down some pretty solid arguments.
And as he says if you don't do that then all of the critics of a "basic income" will probably be underestimating how bad implementing it would be.
But carry on now with your pipe dreams...
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm, noun
an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizen
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You are the dude who keeps arguing nonsense long after you've been beaten down.doogie said:What I thought.
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Keep the DNC promise of #freeshit alive!
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How many subjects are your going change this thread?
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Greatest time to be alive, ever.AZDuck said:
125 years ago we didn't trust poor people (who were a much larger fraction of society) with the vote. Or anybody with a vagina for that matter.TurdBuffer said:The idea has been around since the 60's. And it tanks when it's realized that we're theorizing about the impossible: That poor people can be smart and good with money. Kind of a self-explanatory oxymoron.
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“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” - Buckminster Fuller
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Yeeup. But that also went over he heads of all but three guys in this bored, and sled never had a chance.Gwad said:“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” - Buckminster Fuller
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Well TLDR; the notion that people should be living with more than they need, while others live with less than what they need is shit.
