Kyle Ford, 4* 2019 WR, Anaheim (Servite), CA (Offered 5/21/17)
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This has @StrongArmCobra alt-handle all over it.HillsboroDuck said:
Take this blind homerism to Doogman where it belongs.JustWinNow said:JFC the fucken I love JT Daniels thread. Fuck him he sucks fuck USC they suck. That is the point! Stats are for fucken losers! We will win period I don't give a shit if Skinny is decimal points below him! Wtf! Any other fucken USC recruiting points you want to make for USC?
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I would abandon that assessment. You've been given a clear reason to do so. That ain't it.Tequilla said:
It just means more in the SEC ... haven't you heard?FremontTroll said:Tequilla, Daniels had a higher ypa than Eason.
Obviously ignore completion percentage but if you want to argue about completion percentage you should probably check ypa before writing 4 paragraphs about how maybe Daniels was just checking down while Eason was hucking it deep.
Also I wouldn't just assume Eason was facing a much tougher schedule. The SEC East was pretty bad that year and he drew last place Ole Miss and 8-5 Auburn from the West (missing Bama and LSU.)
Also, yards per completion, yards per attempt, etc. that's where I'd go back to is the SEC defenses are better than the PAC defenses.
We'll see going forward ... I stand by my assessment. -
I know when I wrote it. I was like, I sound like such a fucken doog.HillsboroDuck said:
Take this blind homerism to Doogman where it belongs.JustWinNow said:JFC the fucken I love JT Daniels thread. Fuck him he sucks fuck USC they suck. That is the point! Stats are for fucken losers! We will win period I don't give a shit if Skinny is decimal points below him! Wtf! Any other fucken USC recruiting points you want to make for USC?
You guys that are saying Daniels has better stats than Eason are right. Stats favor Daniels. But doesn't Browning have some awesome stats too. You guys are right Daniels has better stats but fuck him anyway I wouldn't want him on my team I'll take our skinny, sirmon and yankoff anyday. Maybe I'm being king doog but I will take our QBs over Daniels even if I'm wrong.
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Huffman changed his Ford CB from USC to foggy today.
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Is he really that superior of a prospect to Kasen Williams? To me they’re in the same category of elite, and I think people gloss over how good Kasen was early on because that catastrophic leg break he suffered that completely ruined him. I suppose it’s moot though, because yeah, Ford will be a stud if he comes here.DawgFader said:Kyle Ford is unlike any receiver to be on the Dawgs roster since Reggie Williams. If he comes here he’ll be a mega star and very likely a lottery pick, like Reggie.
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It wasn't on USC before. He hadn't put in a CB in yet for Ford.bananasnblondes said:Huffman changed his Ford CB from USC to foggy today.
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Kasen was pretty overrated long before the leg break.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Is he really that superior of a prospect to Kasen Williams? To me they’re in the same category of elite, and I think people gloss over how good Kasen was early on because that catastrophic leg break he suffered that completely ruined him. I suppose it’s moot though, because yeah, Ford will be a stud if he comes here.DawgFader said:Kyle Ford is unlike any receiver to be on the Dawgs roster since Reggie Williams. If he comes here he’ll be a mega star and very likely a lottery pick, like Reggie.
He looked like he was going to be a star as a high schooler and his last couple games as a freshman but he never put it together. I've heard rumors that he was way more into weed than working on his game but who knows. I do know he never learned to run a route, never had a thousand yard season and eight games into his junior year (before the break) he had 29 receptions.
The break was unfortunate, but I don't think he was set up for any huge success without it.
I'll be shocked if Kyle Ford is not significantly more productive than Kasen Williams. -
He loved to smoke. This is true.HillsboroDuck said:
Kasen was pretty overrated long before the leg break.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Is he really that superior of a prospect to Kasen Williams? To me they’re in the same category of elite, and I think people gloss over how good Kasen was early on because that catastrophic leg break he suffered that completely ruined him. I suppose it’s moot though, because yeah, Ford will be a stud if he comes here.DawgFader said:Kyle Ford is unlike any receiver to be on the Dawgs roster since Reggie Williams. If he comes here he’ll be a mega star and very likely a lottery pick, like Reggie.
He looked like he was going to be a star as a high schooler and his last couple games as a freshman but he never put it together. I've heard rumors that he was way more into weed than working on his game but who knows. I do know he never learned to run a route, never had a thousand yard season and eight games into his junior year (before the break) he had 29 receptions.
The break was unfortunate, but I don't think he was set up for any huge success without it.
I'll be shocked if Kyle Ford is not significantly more productive than Kasen Williams. -
Who doesn’t?MisterEm said:
He loved to smoke. This is true.HillsboroDuck said:
Kasen was pretty overrated long before the leg break.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Is he really that superior of a prospect to Kasen Williams? To me they’re in the same category of elite, and I think people gloss over how good Kasen was early on because that catastrophic leg break he suffered that completely ruined him. I suppose it’s moot though, because yeah, Ford will be a stud if he comes here.DawgFader said:Kyle Ford is unlike any receiver to be on the Dawgs roster since Reggie Williams. If he comes here he’ll be a mega star and very likely a lottery pick, like Reggie.
He looked like he was going to be a star as a high schooler and his last couple games as a freshman but he never put it together. I've heard rumors that he was way more into weed than working on his game but who knows. I do know he never learned to run a route, never had a thousand yard season and eight games into his junior year (before the break) he had 29 receptions.
The break was unfortunate, but I don't think he was set up for any huge success without it.
I'll be shocked if Kyle Ford is not significantly more productive than Kasen Williams. -
Seriously. Just stick with one handle.JustWinNow said:
I know when I wrote it. I was like, I sound like such a fucken doog.HillsboroDuck said:
Take this blind homerism to Doogman where it belongs.JustWinNow said:JFC the fucken I love JT Daniels thread. Fuck him he sucks fuck USC they suck. That is the point! Stats are for fucken losers! We will win period I don't give a shit if Skinny is decimal points below him! Wtf! Any other fucken USC recruiting points you want to make for USC?
You guys that are saying Daniels has better stats than Eason are right. Stats favor Daniels. But doesn't Browning have some awesome stats too. You guys are right Daniels has better stats but fuck him anyway I wouldn't want him on my team I'll take our skinny, sirmon and yankoff anyday. Maybe I'm being king doog but I will take our QBs over Daniels even if I'm wrong. -
Disagree. @JustWinNow has self awareness.kh83 said:
Seriously. Just stick with one handle.JustWinNow said:
I know when I wrote it. I was like, I sound like such a fucken doog.HillsboroDuck said:
Take this blind homerism to Doogman where it belongs.JustWinNow said:JFC the fucken I love JT Daniels thread. Fuck him he sucks fuck USC they suck. That is the point! Stats are for fucken losers! We will win period I don't give a shit if Skinny is decimal points below him! Wtf! Any other fucken USC recruiting points you want to make for USC?
You guys that are saying Daniels has better stats than Eason are right. Stats favor Daniels. But doesn't Browning have some awesome stats too. You guys are right Daniels has better stats but fuck him anyway I wouldn't want him on my team I'll take our skinny, sirmon and yankoff anyday. Maybe I'm being king doog but I will take our QBs over Daniels even if I'm wrong. -
Yes, I know when I'm being a stupid doog.
God damn recruiting! I can't take the ups and downs!!!
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You poast in riddles.JustWinNow said:
I know when I wrote it. I was like, I sound like such a fucken doog.HillsboroDuck said:
Take this blind homerism to Doogman where it belongs.JustWinNow said:JFC the fucken I love JT Daniels thread. Fuck him he sucks fuck USC they suck. That is the point! Stats are for fucken losers! We will win period I don't give a shit if Skinny is decimal points below him! Wtf! Any other fucken USC recruiting points you want to make for USC?
You guys that are saying Daniels has better stats than Eason are right. Stats favor Daniels. But doesn't Browning have some awesome stats too. You guys are right Daniels has better stats but fuck him anyway I wouldn't want him on my team I'll take our skinny, sirmon and yankoff anyday. Maybe I'm being king doog but I will take our QBs over Daniels even if I'm wrong. -
Oh god, that means StrongBallzNow is Skynet...HillsboroDuck said:
Disagree. @JustWinNow has self awareness.kh83 said:
Seriously. Just stick with one handle.JustWinNow said:
I know when I wrote it. I was like, I sound like such a fucken doog.HillsboroDuck said:
Take this blind homerism to Doogman where it belongs.JustWinNow said:JFC the fucken I love JT Daniels thread. Fuck him he sucks fuck USC they suck. That is the point! Stats are for fucken losers! We will win period I don't give a shit if Skinny is decimal points below him! Wtf! Any other fucken USC recruiting points you want to make for USC?
You guys that are saying Daniels has better stats than Eason are right. Stats favor Daniels. But doesn't Browning have some awesome stats too. You guys are right Daniels has better stats but fuck him anyway I wouldn't want him on my team I'll take our skinny, sirmon and yankoff anyday. Maybe I'm being king doog but I will take our QBs over Daniels even if I'm wrong. -
I guess so. But you don't Win anything if you figure them out.Baseman said:
You poast in riddles.JustWinNow said:
I know when I wrote it. I was like, I sound like such a fucken doog.HillsboroDuck said:
Take this blind homerism to Doogman where it belongs.JustWinNow said:JFC the fucken I love JT Daniels thread. Fuck him he sucks fuck USC they suck. That is the point! Stats are for fucken losers! We will win period I don't give a shit if Skinny is decimal points below him! Wtf! Any other fucken USC recruiting points you want to make for USC?
You guys that are saying Daniels has better stats than Eason are right. Stats favor Daniels. But doesn't Browning have some awesome stats too. You guys are right Daniels has better stats but fuck him anyway I wouldn't want him on my team I'll take our skinny, sirmon and yankoff anyday. Maybe I'm being king doog but I will take our QBs over Daniels even if I'm wrong.
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Only Tequila could have a TL,DR portion explaining the TL,DR portion.Tequilla said:
And this is why looking deeper than surface level stats matters.HillsboroDuck said:
I'm not looking at raw yardage if that's what you're talking about.JECAR said:
Yeah, he probably should have been better. He didn’t really have to do that much though because his team was better than 2018 USC. I guess I look at Daniels numbers and think that he probably had more of an opportunity than Eason did.HillsboroDuck said:
So he should have been better than a 55% completion percentage with a dominant running game?JECAR said:Georgia also had a guy named Chubb in the backfield that year. Might have heard of him, he was ok in college.
AGREE
Daniels had a better completion percentage, better yards per attempt and better passer rating.
The only thing Eason had better was TD:INT ratio (which isn't nothing).
But the point is less Daniels > Eason than it is talking shit about how good Eason is while going to be while saying "Daniels sucked so he's not going to get better" is completely asinine.
Both were highly rated. Both of them were bad as true freshman QB's. Both will probably greatly improve over their careers.
For example, the UW Defense ranks 1st in the conference years (conference games only) running now in just about every material metric (in 2018 1st in yards per pass attempt, yards per completion, yards per defensive play, points allowed per game, points allowed per 100 yards (a metric I think that is relatively important) and turnovers forced, 2nd in defensive plays per turnover forced, and 3rd in yards per carry allowed). The only category where Washington WAS NOT in the top 3 defensively in the conference was completion percentage against which was 9th!!! Ready for your mind to be blown? UW was 9th in completion percentage in the conference in 2017 (only other categories where they weren't #1 were tied to turnovers) ...
The takeaway: completion percentage can be a massively overrated stat ... which intuitively we should all know if you follow any kind of football and see huge completion percentages for guys like Sam Bradford who do nothing but check the ball down.
I'm not going to claim to be an expert on what USC did offensively this year versus what Georgia did in 2016 with Eason. However, super high level, SC does throw a lot of quick screens to their receivers trying to get them the ball in space. I don't ever really recall that being a large part of Mark Richt's offenses at Georgia. Moreover, those kind of quick WR screen passes aren't really high end plays in the SEC due to the size/speed combinations there that tend to limit those plays to nothing more than run plays ... and when you have guys in your backfield like Nick Chubb and Sony Michel, you probably are better served just handing the ball off.
Likewise, when you cite yards per attempt and passing rating as signs of one being better than the other, you are intuitively also saying that the sample sizes are similar ... which we know defense in the SEC is far different than defenses in the PAC12 South. My guess/expectation would be looking back at Daniels' numbers this year would show that he was pretty good against the shit teams and struggled on the road and/or against the better defenses he saw.
And your point about a TD to INT ratio not being meaningless to me is actually a really strong indication of future performance for a young QB. A young QB is typically going to make poor decisions leading to INTs ... but on top of that, the other big challenge is that whether those bad decisions come in the red zone or they start getting gun shy as the speed of the game magnifies itself there, TDs are often a bit of a challenge. So a 2:1 TD:INT ratio is actually a really nice sign for a young QB.
The TL, DR portion of this is that while Daniels may turn into a good QB (I wasn't overly impressed with him this year), the reality is that Eason's got all the tools you are looking for and will step in next year for Browning and be able to do things at the QB position that UW really hasn't had the capability of doing since Locker (in terms of arm strength) and probably going back to Cody Pickett in terms of matching up arm strength with the talent to go with it. And to be clear, Eason's ceiling is far greater than Cody's. -
We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
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LaMichael_Corleone said:
We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory.
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YVBFEdirtysouwfdawg said:LaMichael_Corleone said:We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory. -
HH acronym transvestite pleaseHillsboroDuck said:
YVBFEdirtysouwfdawg said:LaMichael_Corleone said:We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory. -
You virgin butt fucker, eww.dirtysouwfdawg said:
HH acronym transvestite pleaseHillsboroDuck said:
YVBFEdirtysouwfdawg said:LaMichael_Corleone said:We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory.
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That sure as fuck isn’t it but funny as hell. You almost made me spit my star-ber-rita all over the bethel gym floor.HillsboroDuck said:
You virgin butt fucker, eww.dirtysouwfdawg said:
HH acronym transvestite pleaseHillsboroDuck said:
YVBFEdirtysouwfdawg said:LaMichael_Corleone said:We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory. -
(You’re very best fucking effort)dirtysouwfdawg said:
That sure as fuck isn’t it but funny as hell. You almost made me spit my star-ber-rita all over the bethel gym floor.HillsboroDuck said:
You virgin butt fucker, eww.dirtysouwfdawg said:
HH acronym transvestite pleaseHillsboroDuck said:
YVBFEdirtysouwfdawg said:LaMichael_Corleone said:We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory. -
Hum... so you’re saying my gif from a guy who makes millions but yet leaves Jenny McCarthy’s perfect tits because of an autistic kid isn’t good enough?HillsboroDuck said:
(You’re very best fucking effort)dirtysouwfdawg said:
That sure as fuck isn’t it but funny as hell. You almost made me spit my star-ber-rita all over the bethel gym floor.HillsboroDuck said:
You virgin butt fucker, eww.dirtysouwfdawg said:
HH acronym transvestite pleaseHillsboroDuck said:
YVBFEdirtysouwfdawg said:LaMichael_Corleone said:We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory.
Fuuuck, guess I’ll try HARDer next time @dnc -
Nodirtysouwfdawg said:
Hum... so you’re saying my gif from a guy who makes millions but yet leaves Jenny McCarthy’s perfect tits because of an autistic kid isn’t good enough?HillsboroDuck said:
(You’re very best fucking effort)dirtysouwfdawg said:
That sure as fuck isn’t it but funny as hell. You almost made me spit my star-ber-rita all over the bethel gym floor.HillsboroDuck said:
You virgin butt fucker, eww.dirtysouwfdawg said:
HH acronym transvestite pleaseHillsboroDuck said:
YVBFEdirtysouwfdawg said:LaMichael_Corleone said:We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re Never getting Kyle Ford, (looks at all his UDUB connections), FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (watches Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia all year) FUCK WE NEED KYLE FORD, (sees the timing of his USC visit and KKKliff) We’re never getting Kyle Ford, We’re never getting Kyle Ford.
Welcome to my purgatory.
Fuuuck, guess I’ll try HARDer next time @dnc -
How can you be a virgin AND a butt fucker?
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Ford visited USC this weekend... discuss...
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Didn't commit, he's coming to UWsinceredawg said:Ford visited USC this weekend... discuss...
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Visit BYUPeterman said:How can you be a virgin AND a butt fucker?
