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Are you guys scared of Bernie yet?

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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Dems should just recycle Michael Dukakis rather than go outside the party to find a token candidate

    Paul Tsongas or GTFO!!!!
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    2001400ex said:

    The other thing is if the country is so angry isn't that anger at Obama or the results of his presidency?

    Obama's approval rating is what, 4, 5? times the approval rating of Congress.
    Once again Hondo races to the bottom.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    salemcoog said:

    Endorsements are rolling in. Polling is up. Clinton is scared. It's going to be funny when the people that tore Hilary down realize what's standing behind her.

    And here's the scary truth. Bernie Sanders already won a presidential election in a fucking landslide. It was 2008. America thought Obama was Sanders and he ran away with it. And even though you spent the last 8 years pretending Obama was that guy, he was really closer to the center. But we still want that guy, the most liberal socialist leftist president this country has ever seen, and we're gonna fucking get him.

    The only thing that scares me about Bernie is that Trumps odds to get to the WH go up exponentially if he wins the nomination. The hipster wing won't get him in.
    Disagree.

    Trump winning the GOP nomination is basically handing the election to Bernie.

    Nothing will spur voter turnout from the apathetic Left more than keeping Trump out of the WH.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,443 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    Endorsements are rolling in. Polling is up. Clinton is scared. It's going to be funny when the people that tore Hilary down realize what's standing behind her.

    And here's the scary truth. Bernie Sanders already won a presidential election in a fucking landslide. It was 2008. America thought Obama was Sanders and he ran away with it. And even though you spent the last 8 years pretending Obama was that guy, he was really closer to the center. But we still want that guy, the most liberal socialist leftist president this country has ever seen, and we're gonna fucking get him.

    The only thing that scares me about Bernie is that Trumps odds to get to the WH go up exponentially if he wins the nomination. The hipster wing won't get him in.
    Disagree.

    Trump winning the GOP nomination is basically handing the election to Bernie.

    Nothing will spur voter turnout from the apathetic Left more than keeping Trump out of the WH.
    I'll take that bet
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    salemcoog said:

    Endorsements are rolling in. Polling is up. Clinton is scared. It's going to be funny when the people that tore Hilary down realize what's standing behind her.

    And here's the scary truth. Bernie Sanders already won a presidential election in a fucking landslide. It was 2008. America thought Obama was Sanders and he ran away with it. And even though you spent the last 8 years pretending Obama was that guy, he was really closer to the center. But we still want that guy, the most liberal socialist leftist president this country has ever seen, and we're gonna fucking get him.

    The only thing that scares me about Bernie is that Trumps odds to get to the WH go up exponentially if he wins the nomination. The hipster wing won't get him in.
    Disagree.

    Trump winning the GOP nomination is basically handing the election to Bernie.

    Nothing will spur voter turnout from the apathetic Left more than keeping Trump out of the WH.
    Isn't that the exact same argument about Sanders spurring turnout from the right?

    Trump versus Sanders would be a disaster for the cuntry but it would be interesting as fuck.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    I said Hillary won't be the nominee quite some time ago. First!

    Can't agree that Bernie can win it all though.

    I was sure McGovern could beat Nixon. He did a couple states.

    Obama 08 was a far more rational and better campaigner than Bern. He ran as a quasi moderate who would bring hope and change. Bernie is real angry white male candidate

    You say Obama was a better campaigner but Bernies poll numbers keep rising and he's doing it while bein brushed off by the media. The Democratic Party itself has tried to bury him. Friday and Saturday night debates, give me a break. But he hasn't gone away.

    You say he's angry. I say the country wants angry.
    I think you need to pump the brakes until like, ya know... a primary actually occurs???
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    dnc said:

    salemcoog said:

    Endorsements are rolling in. Polling is up. Clinton is scared. It's going to be funny when the people that tore Hilary down realize what's standing behind her.

    And here's the scary truth. Bernie Sanders already won a presidential election in a fucking landslide. It was 2008. America thought Obama was Sanders and he ran away with it. And even though you spent the last 8 years pretending Obama was that guy, he was really closer to the center. But we still want that guy, the most liberal socialist leftist president this country has ever seen, and we're gonna fucking get him.

    The only thing that scares me about Bernie is that Trumps odds to get to the WH go up exponentially if he wins the nomination. The hipster wing won't get him in.
    Disagree.

    Trump winning the GOP nomination is basically handing the election to Bernie.

    Nothing will spur voter turnout from the apathetic Left more than keeping Trump out of the WH.
    Isn't that the exact same argument about Sanders spurring turnout from the right?

    Trump versus Sanders would be a disaster for the cuntry but it would be interesting as fuck.
    No. It's not the same.

    Obama ran twice and it didn't matter.

    Bernie is an old white guy saying a bunch of the same things. And unlike Obama, he has a long record that gives him credibility. Obama had to fight his lack of experience (remember "executive experience" being a thing?) the entire election.

    So lets see, he's not black, he's not inexperienced, and unlike Clinton, he doesn't have to hide from his record.

    Trump on the other hand has that Sarah Palin bat shit crazy quality that scares liberals and independents, but fires up the base that vote Republican regardless.

    Axe McCain how that strategy worked out.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,443 Founders Club
    20% of democrats are for Trump in polling.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    20% of democrats are for Trump in polling.

    Great pre-season rankings post.