Study Suggests Oregon is Doomed for a Downturn with Helfrich
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Mosster47 is a true doog?salemcoog said:
True Doogs think that Oregon's fortunes somehow has something to do with them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Sincerely, $C, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State (2001-2012), Penn State, and Notre Shamesalemcoog said:So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folks
If Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach.
Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available.
They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change.
Coogs like anything that keeps the Huskies down.
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I think Oregon has been given the respect they deserve from husky fans. Good to great program that owns the pac but hasn't reached the mountain top. Sure Huskies should probably keep their mouths shut about UO, but whatever.salemcoog said:
True Doogs think that Oregon's fortunes somehow has something to do with them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Sincerely, $C, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State (2001-2012), Penn State, and Notre Shamesalemcoog said:So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folks
If Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach.
Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available.
They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change.
Coogs like anything that keeps the Huskies down.
It's funny how coogs have been bigger duck fans than quooks this last decade. -
So you have nothingsalemcoog said:
True Doogs think that Oregon's fortunes somehow has something to do with them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Sincerely, $C, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State (2001-2012), Penn State, and Notre Shamesalemcoog said:So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folks
If Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach.
Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available.
They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change.
Coogs like anything that keeps the Huskies down. -
This is also a reasonable non-Doog perspective, although the OP is a counter-argument for "respect they deserve," but then again, I don't really give a fuck about thathaie said:
I think Oregon has been given the respect they deserve from husky fans. Good to great program that owns the pac but hasn't reached the mountain top. Sure Huskies should probably keep their mouths shut about UO, but whatever.salemcoog said:
True Doogs think that Oregon's fortunes somehow has something to do with them.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Sincerely, $C, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State (2001-2012), Penn State, and Notre Shamesalemcoog said:So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folks
If Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach.
Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available.
They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change.
Coogs like anything that keeps the Huskies down.
It's funny how coogs have been bigger duck fans than quooks this last decade. -
The whole thing was writtien with an agenda. Petersen can be argued has a lot to prove at the next level but he is the one you place high potential on. His first year was a failure on the field but he is doing much better in the recruiting area this year. Seems like a bad Dawg version of a DuckFish analysis with skewed data.
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Oregon's only hope is they are so bad this year that they get Chip.
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O.M.G.AZDuck said:What fucking evidence is there that Helfrich is more like Larry Coker than Tom Osborne?
Do some actual analysis and then pop off -
AZDuck said:
What fucking evidence is there that Helfrich is more like Larry Coker than Tom Osborne?
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How about a Sun Belt cast off?salemcoog said:So you guys are saying that neither Mark Helfrich nor Oregon will contend for NC's on a yearly basis? But seriously folks
If Oregon becomes anything less than a top 10 program, Helfrich will be door.ass.out. and Oregon will offer $7MM per year to upgrade the coach.
Chip Kelly took Oregon from being a nice top 20 program to a national contender. And they've been there for 5 plus years now. Hiring Mark Helfrich made the most sense since the likes of Rich Rod, Todd Graham and others who run a similar scheme weren't available. Should Oregon drop off to even 10-3 next year, without a strong closing run. Oregon would make a change even then, should the right man be available.
They don't nor won't be hiring a Big 12 cast off or WAC Wunderkind anytime soon, should it become time to make a change.
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As a relative noob here, I must say that the trolling, copy pasta of things people said for months on end, and bumping of ancient threads here is fuckin magnificent.
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I'm more of a voyeur than an exhibitionist, but this place seems like you'll at least tickle my balls a little when I do. And that's something anyone can enjoy.DoogCourics said:As a relative noob here, I must say that the trolling, copy pasta of things people said for months on end, and bumping of ancient threads here is fuckin magnificent.
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Bump of the year. AZduck looks like a dumbfuck. Well..he always looks like a dumbfuck, but more so here.
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Every non-quook was worried as fuck about Sling after the AZ game his first year. It wasn't a great year but they won the gas station bowl against Texas in Texas, historically that's a big deal for any Pac-12 team not named USC.MikeDamone said:Bump of the year. AZduck looks like a dumbfuck. Well..he always looks like a dumbfuck, but more so here.
The next year they play for an NC. Obviously that's a good year.
The next year they probably make the playoffs again if Adams doesn't break his hand week one. If Adams doesn't get a concussion in the gas station bowl the Ducks win that thing by 50 and everyone is still on board. Up to this point you didn't have to be a quook to say he had done a pretty decent job overall. However, Adams got said concussion, they blow the biggest lead in history and every non-quook jumps ship. Remember, you're a winner until you're not and he was up to that point.
Year four he loses the Nebraska game by himself with the stupid fucking 2 point "we do what we do" shit. Quooks start to get nervous.
Colorado, the stupid fucking fade call on 1st down blows the game. Quooks are getting restless.
UW ass rapes us. Quooks are becoming vocal.
Lost the CW to a historically bad Beavie team. Quooks revolt. The bleeding is stopped.
The keep the seat warm after a great coach thing never works out, but myself and other non-quooks were supportive until it was time to move on. I wanted Oregon to hire Dan Mullen instead of Sling and said that countless times. It seemed like a no brainer to me. He would have at least tried. -
Good news is, the Ducks are implementing the same S&C program as the ENTIRE SEC. Instant wins. Or not. EWIWBIMosster47 said:
Every non-quook was worried as fuck about Sling after the AZ game his first year. It wasn't a great year but they won the gas station bowl against Texas in Texas, historically that's a big deal for any Pac-12 team not named USC.MikeDamone said:Bump of the year. AZduck looks like a dumbfuck. Well..he always looks like a dumbfuck, but more so here.
The next year they play for an NC. Obviously that's a good year.
The next year they probably make the playoffs again if Adams doesn't break his hand week one. If Adams doesn't get a concussion in the gas station bowl the Ducks win that thing by 50 and everyone is still on board. Up to this point you didn't have to be a quook to say he had done a pretty decent job overall. However, Adams got said concussion, they blow the biggest lead in history and every non-quook jumps ship. Remember, you're a winner until you're not and he was up to that point.
Year four he loses the Nebraska game by himself with the stupid fucking 2 point "we do what we do" shit. Quooks start to get nervous.
Colorado, the stupid fucking fade call on 1st down blows the game. Quooks are getting restless.
UW ass rapes us. Quooks are becoming vocal.
Lost the CW to a historically bad Beavie team. Quooks revolt. The bleeding is stopped.
The keep the seat warm after a great coach thing never works out, but myself and other non-quooks were supportive until it was time to move on. I wanted Oregon to hire Dan Mullen instead of Sling and said that countless times. It seemed like a no brainer to me. He would have at least tried. -
I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something? -
I guess the future wasn't all that foreseeable bitch!oregonblitzkrieg said:
Playing in the national championship and losing is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuing to being dog food in the PAC 12 for the foreseeable future.topdawgnc said:
By your outburst on Monday ... didn't seem too fun to be a quook, but was sure hella fun to be a doog.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The butthurt in this post proves the point that 1.) It's best to be a quook. 2.) It's worse to be a doog. 3.) It can't get any worse than being a cuog.Cuogar_Gold said:Your program was shown to the entire country for what it was. The epic quook pressing on this board has been unreal. LSU, Ohio State, Auburn, they all laughed at your meth'd out excuses and bullshit exclamations of "We'll be back!" Christ. The Committee has seen enough out of you marshmallows. Oregon is fucked. Helfrich is a fucking loser (he's from Oregon, of course he is). Oregon was arrogant in promoting clueless morons like Pellum, who wouldn't understand defense if it cut a hole in the back of his pimp suit and fucked him in the ass.
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Holy fucking shit! You thought Helfrich was a good recruiter! Look how that turned out fucktard. Now you're saying Cristobal is a great recruiter. Hmmmmm? It's like deja vu. You're not good at this. But feel free to keep embarrassing yourself.creepycoug said:
Players like Royce Freeman?HFNY said:Oregon is clearly on top this year but what happens with Mariota and a bunch of Kelly recruited / coached players move on?
Other than Mariota, who is in a league by himself of course in terms of his importance to Oregon, Freeman had as big a hand in Oregon's run this season as any other player. Helfrich got him. Helfrich also found and recruited Mariota fwiw, though the guy in charge at the time gets the credit ... that's how it works.
So he's shown himself to be a good recruiter by Oregon's standards. That's a start. Coker didn't recruit anybody. Butch and some key assistants not named Uncle Fester did the recruiting. Pete Garcia, their operations guy, was also huge in that program.
You gotta know the details of the programs you're talking about - not you HFNY; the author - before you can really dial this shit down. -
Is it still your favorite you fucking retard?AZDuck said:This is now my favoritest HH thread of all the times
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As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
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Oh right, fuck that guyGrundleStiltzkin said:
As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something? -
Now we shit on Chest for good luckGrundleStiltzkin said:
As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something? -
I'm actually pretty excited. It's the first time Oregon football players have actually lifted weights in my lifetime.Sources said:
Good news is, the Ducks are implementing the same S&C program as the ENTIRE SEC. Instant wins. Or not. EWIWBIMosster47 said:
Every non-quook was worried as fuck about Sling after the AZ game his first year. It wasn't a great year but they won the gas station bowl against Texas in Texas, historically that's a big deal for any Pac-12 team not named USC.MikeDamone said:Bump of the year. AZduck looks like a dumbfuck. Well..he always looks like a dumbfuck, but more so here.
The next year they play for an NC. Obviously that's a good year.
The next year they probably make the playoffs again if Adams doesn't break his hand week one. If Adams doesn't get a concussion in the gas station bowl the Ducks win that thing by 50 and everyone is still on board. Up to this point you didn't have to be a quook to say he had done a pretty decent job overall. However, Adams got said concussion, they blow the biggest lead in history and every non-quook jumps ship. Remember, you're a winner until you're not and he was up to that point.
Year four he loses the Nebraska game by himself with the stupid fucking 2 point "we do what we do" shit. Quooks start to get nervous.
Colorado, the stupid fucking fade call on 1st down blows the game. Quooks are getting restless.
UW ass rapes us. Quooks are becoming vocal.
Lost the CW to a historically bad Beavie team. Quooks revolt. The bleeding is stopped.
The keep the seat warm after a great coach thing never works out, but myself and other non-quooks were supportive until it was time to move on. I wanted Oregon to hire Dan Mullen instead of Sling and said that countless times. It seemed like a no brainer to me. He would have at least tried. -
Grundle obviously remembers the time I innocently referred to Chest as Chester and he got indignant about it.GrundleStiltzkin said:
As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something? -
Chester is rather innocent. You could have just as easily referred to him as Chesticle.DerekJohnson said:
Grundle obviously remembers the time I innocently referred to Chest as Chester and he got indignant about it.GrundleStiltzkin said:
As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something? -
True. But when you can move your content to Friday Harbor, you have to do it.GrundleStiltzkin said:
As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something? -
I do not, but that’s pretty funny.DerekJohnson said:
Grundle obviously remembers the time I innocently referred to Chest as Chester and he got indignant about it.GrundleStiltzkin said:
As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something? -
dnc said:
Now we shit on Chest for good luckGrundleStiltzkin said:
As I recall, Chester distanced himself from HCH in an effort to go more mainstream and get access to the AD. Fine, do yo thing. But he kinda shit on Derek on the way out the door.whatshouldicareabout said:I completely forgot about SRS until I saw one of Chest's posts.
Did Chest die or something?
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Chest was right.
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Yup.jecornel said:Chest was right.