Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
Study Suggests Oregon is Doomed for a Downturn with Helfrich
Hardcore_Husky
Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 309 
Study Suggests Oregon is Doomed for a Downturn with Helfrich
Though on the cusp of a championship, the promotion of Mark Helfrich carries red flags, writes our resident Metrics Superiority Guy.
Comments
-
-
What fucking evidence is there that Helfrich is more like Larry Coker than Tom Osborne?
Do some actual analysis and then pop off -
Oregon has a track record of hiring from within. Miami had a track record of hiring from outside - experienced head coaches. Johnson, Erickson, and Davis - well Davis was a NFL coordinator but still
-
When did Chest become such a Doog?
-
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics"
-
Sample size is kind of small, but great analysis. I agree with the conclusion, but more on subjective than objective means.
The big difference with Oregon vs Miami 2000s, their success was built on a very unique offensive system which is the bedrock of their competitive advantage, the strength of this system is reinforced by their crazy staff continuity, and was put into hyper drive the past 3 years with a once in a decade type talent that hit the ground running day1. Miamis advantage was, and always has been, geographical talent advantage, not their system. Geography and recruiting are actually Oregons biggest disadvantages. Systems are a more sustainable source of advantage than sales/recruiting in my opinion. Good salesman leave, worse ones come in the team regresses. If it wasn't SC would be amazing every year. In that sense you could maybe make a better correlation to Nebraska than Miami.
Mariota leaving will take out a lot of wind from their sails, but how they deal with staff continuity while maintaining a high performance system will be the big item that could turn 10win seasons into 7 or 8win seasons and door.ass.out.
That old black guy RB coach that dresses like Al Cappone - he should be retiring soon, not sure why no one makes a run at Scott Frost, or their OL coach. How they replace coaches is key while maintaining what makes their offense so unique. Pellum taking over for Allioti appears to be a success, but defense is irrelevant when talking about Oregons prospects for regression.
Which brings me back to Helfrich. Watching Helfrich on interviews, he comes of like such a dopey pussy. Does he think he's Letterman on these press conferences? Can't imagine he's an inspiring leader of players or coaches in that program.
That's not a huge issue when the bulk of the key players/coaches came up through Chip Kelly and Belotti (though maybe we saw signs of this with the tears vs Stanford and quit-job vs Az last year)...but how will the players, and more importantly coaches, that come up through Helfrichs watch react and maintain their high-performance system? Will they continue the course Kelly built, or will it go Pear shaped? My guess is the latter.
Maybe MH is Kaiser Soze'ing me in these interviews, but I kind of think he's a poor leader and we will see a general regression to an 8 or 9 win max type of coach.
TL;DR: Agree. MH is a fag, he will probably fuck it up.
-
The title is kind of strong which Derek picked, not I.
Helf is not Osborne because Chip Kelly was Oregon's Osborne.
The study is an objective analysis. Feel free to draw your own conclusions. It will take three to four seasons to know who is right. Until then it will be interesting or interesting. -
LOL
Laziest fucking analysis ever.
"This happened at Nebraska 45 years ago, so Oregon is going to be similar now."
Do you even history bro? -
I conclude you went full Doog.HeretoBeatmyChest said:The title is kind of strong which Derek picked, not I.
Helf is not Osborne because Chip Kelly was Oregon's Osborne.
The study is an objective analysis. Feel free to draw your own conclusions. It will take three to four seasons to know who is right. Until then it will be interesting or interesting.
But I would still cyber you. -
Actually what happened 45 years ago is the best case. What happened 10 years ago is worst caseAZDuck said:LOL
Laziest fucking analysis ever.
"This happened at Nebraska 45 years ago, so Oregon is going to be similar now."
Do you even history bro?
Where the analysis fails for me is that Oregon is more like Nebraska than Miami. So Helfrich is either Osborne or Solich I guess.
