Study Suggests Oregon is Doomed for a Downturn with Helfrich
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I like how you retards are all serious and analytical about a retarded article written by a retard. Fuck, way to go full krisvashon on me boys.
So, as a reminder, nobody here should ever try and analyze shit involving the Canes without some help from the creep. At minimum I'd expect someone to say something like, "hey creepy, what do you think? does this analysis pass mustard?" Or something like that.
The analogy to Coker is stupid. I've already explained this.
The Nebraska shit is too old to be relevant. Different league, different circumstances, different everything. Back then, Osbourne had a one-game season to manage and then it was gearing up for the Orange Bowl.
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Players like Royce Freeman?HFNY said:Oregon is clearly on top this year but what happens with Mariota and a bunch of Kelly recruited / coached players move on?
Other than Mariota, who is in a league by himself of course in terms of his importance to Oregon, Freeman had as big a hand in Oregon's run this season as any other player. Helfrich got him. Helfrich also found and recruited Mariota fwiw, though the guy in charge at the time gets the credit ... that's how it works.
So he's shown himself to be a good recruiter by Oregon's standards. That's a start. Coker didn't recruit anybody. Butch and some key assistants not named Uncle Fester did the recruiting. Pete Garcia, their operations guy, was also huge in that program.
You gotta know the details of the programs you're talking about - not you HFNY; the author - before you can really dial this shit down. -
I would tend to side with creepy on this one. This is some desperate shit. Even if helfrich trails off into mediocrity, they win it all on the 12th, he was the correct hire.
He is oregon's best recruiter and his brand of Oregon ball is more physical than years past. The Zona choke jobs had me smirking, but I'm not going to judge anymore. He has that team playing fantastic football.
I think it took Pellum a bit to get adjusted as well, he was a complete dumpster fire and looked overwhelmed in the loss to AZ. Now he just raped Jameis.
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If you cannot see that both the UO, and especially the UW, fan bases wouldn't mind a neutered Stanford going forward, well, there's just no helping you.oregonblitzkrieg said:
So are you.Canard said:
You're a dipshit.oregonblitzkrieg said:There's no reason to kiss this guy's ass. Harbaugh didn't have anything to sustain. He didn't even win the PAC 12. He ran off to the NFL like a punk motherfucker before he won anything of note. And now he's fled from the NFL before winning anything of note while turning his team into a stinking mess. Currently he's raiding his former school like a punk mother fucker. Hurting the Stanford program will hurt the PAC 12. Fuck him.
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Oregon isn't going anywhere lower than a 10-11 win team, and when UW finally beats them it will be as pathetic and doogerific as 'The Pick', if not more.
That being said, if Oregon fan thinks they're just going to hand it to Freeman next year to coast through the league again, they are just as FS. -
My thinking is that if we won the league with Masoli and Thomas for fuck's sake, we just need competence out of the QB to be highly competitive with the returning skill players we possess.haie said:Oregon isn't going anywhere lower than a 10-11 win team, and when UW finally beats them it will be as pathetic and doogerific as 'The Pick', if not more.
That being said, if Oregon fan thinks they're just going to hand it to Freeman next year to coast through the league again, they are just as FS.
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I was trying to explain that to the coog the other day. Some people think its all Mariota. It isn't. He may be the best but its the system. Didn't Thomas go 12-0 (1)?Canard said:
My thinking is that if we won the league with Masoli and Thomas for fuck's sake, we just need competence out of the QB to be highly competitive with the returning skill players we possess.haie said:Oregon isn't going anywhere lower than a 10-11 win team, and when UW finally beats them it will be as pathetic and doogerific as 'The Pick', if not more.
That being said, if Oregon fan thinks they're just going to hand it to Freeman next year to coast through the league again, they are just as FS. -
Really who cares if there is a downturn if Helfrich wins a natty this year. Would we rip on Petersen if he went 7-6 the following year if he won a natty? This article was not timed well. Write this shit after the Arizona game, not right after plungering Jameis.
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UW sucked in 1985 and the rest of the decade after 1984 capped off a 4 major bowl in 7 year run
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Which is just another Tuesday for oregon this era. I'm not talking shit until we get our program correct.RaceBannon said:UW sucked in 1985 and the rest of the decade after 1984 capped off a 4 major bowl in 7 year run
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There are surplus tee shirts in the Dominican Republic that say as much even today.RaceBannon said:
I was trying to explain that to the coog the other day. Some people think its all Mariota. It isn't. He may be the best but its the system. Didn't Thomas go 12-0 (1)?Canard said:
My thinking is that if we won the league with Masoli and Thomas for fuck's sake, we just need competence out of the QB to be highly competitive with the returning skill players we possess.haie said:Oregon isn't going anywhere lower than a 10-11 win team, and when UW finally beats them it will be as pathetic and doogerific as 'The Pick', if not more.
That being said, if Oregon fan thinks they're just going to hand it to Freeman next year to coast through the league again, they are just as FS. -
Btw, my favorite part of this piece of doog analysis was the conclusion.
The study argues that Helfrich could maintain Oregon’s elite status for two more seasons but suggests major regression thereafter. If Chris Petersen is who we think he is then he will have our huskies rebuilt and ready to contend right at the time when Helfrich and Oregon will begin their regression.
That was especially poignant given that the only real metric that is holding firm here these days is that 100% of the doog predictions based upon the assumptions concerning who Peenerman is have been, how is it said? Oh yeah, totally fucking wrong.
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There is room for advanced statistics in sports.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Stanford was #1 in SRS in 2010. Switzer was #1 in SRS the year after he won the NC so thats why his is a 2s. Butch Davis has 1s because Miami was #1 SRS in 2000.dtd said:What is the "1s" in the National Championship column next to Harbaugh?
I like using them in baseball because you can use the large sample size to accurately determine how good the teams really were (going beyond pure wins, losses)
But I don't hand out WS titles based on which team had the highest team WAR, and that is baseball, this is college fucking football where the teams play 4-5 good teams and a bunch of dreck each season.
Saying Harbaugh won a NC because his team finished #1 in SRS is stupid
If Stanford were the "true national champions" that year why were they plungered by Oregon?
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Comparing Helfrich to Coker only invites comparisons between Peterman and Hawkins/Koetter. They're both fucking stupid, jealous, wishful thinking by rivals.
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In both cases, LIFPOdtd said:Comparing Helfrich to Coker only invites comparisons between Peterman and Hawkins/Koetter. They're both fucking stupid, jealous, wishful thinking by rivals.
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You're a dipshit. A good Stanford program is good for the PAC 12. Get your fucking ass over to the ACC if you want to play shitty teams all season long.Canard said:
If you cannot see that both the UO, and especially the UW, fan bases wouldn't mind a neutered Stanford going forward, well, there's just no helping you.oregonblitzkrieg said:
So are you.Canard said:
You're a dipshit.oregonblitzkrieg said:There's no reason to kiss this guy's ass. Harbaugh didn't have anything to sustain. He didn't even win the PAC 12. He ran off to the NFL like a punk motherfucker before he won anything of note. And now he's fled from the NFL before winning anything of note while turning his team into a stinking mess. Currently he's raiding his former school like a punk mother fucker. Hurting the Stanford program will hurt the PAC 12. Fuck him.
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You really should be thinking about putting a diaphragm in your pussy with all the plungering you've be subjected to on this bored.Canard said:
Who has been having a tantrum in this thread? Looks like it is you.bananasnblondes said:This article does a great job of proving one thing. The minute anyone talks slightly negatively about Oregon, it's fans go into pissy little faggot tantrums.
Let's be honest, this site is an alternative to the humorless drivel on places like dawgman. A lot of what is posted here is self depreciating towards the team this site is named after and a lot is tongue-in-cheek. There are some duck fans here that contribute to such discussions and give the huskies a good natured ribbing as well. However, as AZDuck has demonstrated in this post, they get all serious and turn into 12-level pussy mouthbreathers the minute anything negative is slightly suggested about the Ducks.
Tell you what, the next time I am feeling uppity, I'll wear a condom with the appropriate ribbing for your pleasure and you can keep your tongue in your cheek for it, okay? -
Harbog worshipers will do anything to prop this clown up. It's fucking hilarious how he's included in the same sentences as the USC shyster and Kelly. Which out of these 3 doesn't belong? HARBAUGH: 0 PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIPS. 0 NCG APPEARANCES OR WINS.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Stanford was #1 in SRS in 2010. Switzer was #1 in SRS the year after he won the NC so thats why his is a 2s. Butch Davis has 1s because Miami was #1 SRS in 2000.dtd said:What is the "1s" in the National Championship column next to Harbaugh?
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You're such a dumb ass. The North is a zero sum game. We only need TWO good programs within the division and one of them does not need be embarrassingly boring Stanford and their tens of fans. As much grief as I give those cocksuckers from Montlake, at least they have passion. Stanford isn't a gate draw, or a television draw, or anything else that matters since your "fraud" left.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a dipshit. A good Stanford program is good for the PAC 12. Get your fucking ass over to the ACC if you want to play shitty teams all season long.Canard said:
If you cannot see that both the UO, and especially the UW, fan bases wouldn't mind a neutered Stanford going forward, well, there's just no helping you.oregonblitzkrieg said:
So are you.Canard said:
You're a dipshit.oregonblitzkrieg said:There's no reason to kiss this guy's ass. Harbaugh didn't have anything to sustain. He didn't even win the PAC 12. He ran off to the NFL like a punk motherfucker before he won anything of note. And now he's fled from the NFL before winning anything of note while turning his team into a stinking mess. Currently he's raiding his former school like a punk mother fucker. Hurting the Stanford program will hurt the PAC 12. Fuck him.
It's far more important "for the conference" that at least one of the two LA programs quit fucking around with shitty coaches.
The CCG can't keep being a perennial north rapes south and stomps the corpse type game if it is going to keep mattering. -
You need to quit being self-referential and then projecting your inadequacies outward.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You really should be thinking about putting a diaphragm in your pussy with all the plungering you've be subjected to on this bored.Canard said:
Who has been having a tantrum in this thread? Looks like it is you.bananasnblondes said:This article does a great job of proving one thing. The minute anyone talks slightly negatively about Oregon, it's fans go into pissy little faggot tantrums.
Let's be honest, this site is an alternative to the humorless drivel on places like dawgman. A lot of what is posted here is self depreciating towards the team this site is named after and a lot is tongue-in-cheek. There are some duck fans here that contribute to such discussions and give the huskies a good natured ribbing as well. However, as AZDuck has demonstrated in this post, they get all serious and turn into 12-level pussy mouthbreathers the minute anything negative is slightly suggested about the Ducks.
Tell you what, the next time I am feeling uppity, I'll wear a condom with the appropriate ribbing for your pleasure and you can keep your tongue in your cheek for it, okay?
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There's no such thing as a zero sum game. Sincerely, Mike Damone.Canard said:
You're such a dumb ass. The North is a zero sum game.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're a dipshit. A good Stanford program is good for the PAC 12. Get your fucking ass over to the ACC if you want to play shitty teams all season long.Canard said:
If you cannot see that both the UO, and especially the UW, fan bases wouldn't mind a neutered Stanford going forward, well, there's just no helping you.oregonblitzkrieg said:
So are you.Canard said:
You're a dipshit.oregonblitzkrieg said:There's no reason to kiss this guy's ass. Harbaugh didn't have anything to sustain. He didn't even win the PAC 12. He ran off to the NFL like a punk motherfucker before he won anything of note. And now he's fled from the NFL before winning anything of note while turning his team into a stinking mess. Currently he's raiding his former school like a punk mother fucker. Hurting the Stanford program will hurt the PAC 12. Fuck him.
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No. What it proves is that it's FS to:bananasnblondes said:This article does a great job of proving one thing. The minute anyone talks slightly negatively about Oregon, it's fans go into pissy little faggot tantrums.
Let's be honest, this site is an alternative to the humorless drivel on places like dawgman. A lot of what is posted here is self depreciating towards the team this site is named after and a lot is tongue-in-cheek. There are some duck fans here that contribute to such discussions and give the huskies a good natured ribbing as well. However, as AZDuck has demonstrated in this post, they get all serious and turn into 12-level pussy mouthbreathers the minute anything negative is slightly suggested about the Ducks.
- write an article about your most fierce rival;
- the basic point of which is about as revealing as me saying, "if I throw a baseball in the air, it will come down;" and
- then pretend that you're merely making an objective observation and aren't otherwise personally invested.
Of course he'll regress. Everyone does. Everywhere. It's just a matter of time. Did anyone here need to learn that? Seriously?
Regardless of how a handful of dip shit Oregon fans (predictably) react to said FS article, the real story here is that it's a stupid and obvious point that is written ENTIRELY for self soothing purposes.
Know what would be just as predictable as Oregon fans reacting sandy to this article? A bunch of Huskies going full sandy on me if I were to write an article suggesting that Don James' career was a bit overrated and built upon playing in a top-heavy conference, the winner of which got to prove itself a "champion" by playing some slug Big 10 team in a second rate bowl on New Year's day while the truly best teams in the country were off playing in the Sugar or Orange Bowl.
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The evidence is more than that: it shows that everyone, new hires and successful coaches staying put, tend to regress. Bob Stoops has been fucking the dog for a few years now.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
The evidence is pretty clear that these types of hires don't work out in the long run. It also shows they can have huge success in their first few years. Its fair to disagree with the conclusion and say he will be Tom Osborne or Oregon is like Michigan and will remain consistent. Saying there is no evidence or analysis is FS and shows you are butthurt over the conclusion.AZDuck said:
Not the case.bananasnblondes said:This article does a great job of proving one thing. The minute anyone talks slightly negatively about Oregon, it's fans go into pissy little faggot tantrums.
Let's be honest, this site is an alternative to the humorless drivel on places like dawgman. A lot of what is posted here is self depreciating towards the team this site is named after and a lot is tongue-in-cheek. There are some duck fans here that contribute to such discussions and give the huskies a good natured ribbing as well. However, as AZDuck has demonstrated in this post, they get all serious and turn into 12-level pussy mouthbreathers the minute anything negative is slightly suggested about the Ducks.
Why should I have any patience for wishful thinking unsupported by evidence or analysis? -
I'm taking Race's stance on this.
Oregon's going to regress under Helfrich, until they don't -
Either way, it'll be interesting.greenblood said:I'm taking Race's stance on this.
Oregon's going to regress under Helfrich, until they don't
Scratch that: either way, I won't give a fuck.
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Fuck you @creepycoug.
And fuck you @DingaLing. Why don't you post something? I see you voting up/awesomeing the most critical comments.
Oregon probably regresses faster than I thought.
I just want Oregon to implode so I can be right. Seriously.
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Fuck us and all who revel in the pain and displeasure of others.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Fuck you @creepycoug.
And fuck you @DingaLing. Why don't you post something? I see you voting up/awesomeing the most critical comments.
Oregon probably regresses faster than I thought.
I just want Oregon to implode so I can be right. Seriously.
Suck it bitches!! -
If you're here just to beat your chest, you won't last long.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Fuck you @creepycoug.
And fuck you @DingaLing. Why don't you post something? I see you voting up/awesomeing the most critical comments.
Oregon probably regresses faster than I thought.
I just want Oregon to implode so I can be right. Seriously.
Suck it bitches!! -
I'm good.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Fuck us and all who revel in the pain and displeasure of others.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Fuck you @creepycoug.
And fuck you @DingaLing. Why don't you post something? I see you voting up/awesomeing the most critical comments.
Oregon probably regresses faster than I thought.
I just want Oregon to implode so I can be right. Seriously.
Suck it bitches!! -
An Oregon fan mocking UW's March Madness choke job against Louisville inspired that catchphrase.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm good.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Fuck us and all who revel in the pain and displeasure of others.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Fuck you @creepycoug.
And fuck you @DingaLing. Why don't you post something? I see you voting up/awesomeing the most critical comments.
Oregon probably regresses faster than I thought.
I just want Oregon to implode so I can be right. Seriously.
Suck it bitches!!
