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The "system" that is making the poor, poorer in America
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And of course Hondo's claim that the "system" makes poor people poorer continues to be unsupported by anything other than his worthless opinion and he provides no links in support of that bullshit while he demands links that he doesn't even read.
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I don’t provide the links for him. He’s a zealot/shill, and won’t move off his position, facts be damned. The links are just to show that.
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That is worthwhile discussion. You are much better about this than Bob. I'll look through this link later this evening. I browsed it but don't have time to roll through it.USMChawk said:
Yet that number was reported by the poor themselves.2001400ex said:
Ah this one. Yes I mean to get back to this.SFGbob said:
See you can provide a link. It's an opinion article in the politics section. That being said. I still disagree that the average person making $25k spends $60k. That's not even close to reality. They spend more than they make, but no way it's $60k.
The fact is, when the very same households that the federal government considers to be poor are questioned, they report roughly $2.40 in spending for every $1 of income that Census says they have. So that family of four earning $25,000 is likely consuming as much as $60,000 a year in goods and services.
If you click on the source material for that article (linked below) you’ll see a great analysis of how the poverty line is determined by income level, only, and does not account for the increased welfare benefits. That is the entire argument about an income level based poverty line vs a consumption based poverty line. The latter accounts for the social benefits they receive as is a truer indicator of their overall situation.
https://www.aei.org/publication/annual-report-on-us-consumption-poverty-2017/ -
Hondo "knows" that the numbers aren't accurate without ever looking them but he'll look at them later tonight and get back to us.2001400ex said:
That is worthwhile discussion. You are much better about this than Bob. I'll look through this link later this evening. I browsed it but don't have time to roll through it.USMChawk said:
Yet that number was reported by the poor themselves.2001400ex said:
Ah this one. Yes I mean to get back to this.SFGbob said:
See you can provide a link. It's an opinion article in the politics section. That being said. I still disagree that the average person making $25k spends $60k. That's not even close to reality. They spend more than they make, but no way it's $60k.
The fact is, when the very same households that the federal government considers to be poor are questioned, they report roughly $2.40 in spending for every $1 of income that Census says they have. So that family of four earning $25,000 is likely consuming as much as $60,000 a year in goods and services.
If you click on the source material for that article (linked below) you’ll see a great analysis of how the poverty line is determined by income level, only, and does not account for the increased welfare benefits. That is the entire argument about an income level based poverty line vs a consumption based poverty line. The latter accounts for the social benefits they receive as is a truer indicator of their overall situation.
https://www.aei.org/publication/annual-report-on-us-consumption-poverty-2017/
Is there a bigger worthless Kunt here on this board?
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It is useless to try and explain basic economics to Hondo guys. You are just going to spin in circles and wear yourselves out. He is too fucking retarded to understand.
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He isn't even here for a conversation. He is a retarded troll.CuntWaffle said:It is useless to try and explain basic economics to Hondo guys. You are just going to spin in circles and wear yourselves out. He is too fucking retarded to understand.
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Wild guess, that 60k number includes debt.
Thank you to all the conservatives making a great case for welfare. Poor people don’t have it that bad in America because welfare lifts them out of poverty. Great point. Let’s make sure all poor people have access to it. -
He’s just another try hard “useful idiot”. Responding to him other than to tell him to fuck off, or self immolate is a complete waste of time.SFGbob said:
He isn't even here for a conversation. He is a retarded troll.CuntWaffle said:It is useless to try and explain basic economics to Hondo guys. You are just going to spin in circles and wear yourselves out. He is too fucking retarded to understand.
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Welfare needs to be more efficientallpurpleallgold said:Wild guess, that 60k number includes debt.
Thank you to all the conservatives making a great case for welfare. Poor people don’t have it that bad in America because welfare lifts them out of poverty. Great point. Let’s make sure all poor people have access to it.
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Needs to be more efficient and limited to a stop gap measure that doesn’t perpetuate dependence.RaceBannon said:
Welfare needs to be more efficientallpurpleallgold said:Wild guess, that 60k number includes debt.
Thank you to all the conservatives making a great case for welfare. Poor people don’t have it that bad in America because welfare lifts them out of poverty. Great point. Let’s make sure all poor people have access to it.
Kind of sucks now
