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The "system" that is making the poor, poorer in America
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Yes I understand that fully. But Bob choose to be an idiot rather than present information. I'm guessing it's because the actual discussion is over his head and he's just googling shit to try to prove me wrong.USMChawk said:
Ok, let’s try this again. You get that all that information came from Bob’s original link?2001400ex said:
I do realize that. You actually put the link there while Bob just flails around.USMChawk said:
You get that all that information came from Bob’s original link, yes? All I did was summarize it for you.2001400ex said:
That is worthwhile discussion. You are much better about this than Bob. I'll look through this link later this evening. I browsed it but don't have time to roll through it.USMChawk said:
Yet that number was reported by the poor themselves.2001400ex said:
Ah this one. Yes I mean to get back to this.SFGbob said:
See you can provide a link. It's an opinion article in the politics section. That being said. I still disagree that the average person making $25k spends $60k. That's not even close to reality. They spend more than they make, but no way it's $60k.
The fact is, when the very same households that the federal government considers to be poor are questioned, they report roughly $2.40 in spending for every $1 of income that Census says they have. So that family of four earning $25,000 is likely consuming as much as $60,000 a year in goods and services.
If you click on the source material for that article (linked below) you’ll see a great analysis of how the poverty line is determined by income level, only, and does not account for the increased welfare benefits. That is the entire argument about an income level based poverty line vs a consumption based poverty line. The latter accounts for the social benefits they receive as is a truer indicator of their overall situation.
https://www.aei.org/publication/annual-report-on-us-consumption-poverty-2017/ -
The chart explains that you’re a lying dumbfuck?
Oh and Mr. reading comprehension the numbers where never for an individual or a “person” they were always for a family of four. And your claim was that the “system” makes the poor poorer, not that they are “encouraged” to stay poor or that the don’t have the ability to build wealth you lying worthless piece of shit.
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Other than the fact that I provided the information and then the link to back it up it almost like you’re nothing more than a lying Kunt Hondo.2001400ex said:
Yes I understand that fully. But Bob choose to be an idiot rather than present information. I'm guessing it's because the actual discussion is over his head and he's just googling shit to try to prove me wrong.USMChawk said:
Ok, let’s try this again. You get that all that information came from Bob’s original link?2001400ex said:
I do realize that. You actually put the link there while Bob just flails around.USMChawk said:
You get that all that information came from Bob’s original link, yes? All I did was summarize it for you.2001400ex said:
That is worthwhile discussion. You are much better about this than Bob. I'll look through this link later this evening. I browsed it but don't have time to roll through it.USMChawk said:
Yet that number was reported by the poor themselves.2001400ex said:
Ah this one. Yes I mean to get back to this.SFGbob said:
See you can provide a link. It's an opinion article in the politics section. That being said. I still disagree that the average person making $25k spends $60k. That's not even close to reality. They spend more than they make, but no way it's $60k.
The fact is, when the very same households that the federal government considers to be poor are questioned, they report roughly $2.40 in spending for every $1 of income that Census says they have. So that family of four earning $25,000 is likely consuming as much as $60,000 a year in goods and services.
If you click on the source material for that article (linked below) you’ll see a great analysis of how the poverty line is determined by income level, only, and does not account for the increased welfare benefits. That is the entire argument about an income level based poverty line vs a consumption based poverty line. The latter accounts for the social benefits they receive as is a truer indicator of their overall situation.
https://www.aei.org/publication/annual-report-on-us-consumption-poverty-2017/
Let me guess you’re trolling me with you stupidity again. Time for some funny pictures Kunt, you’re about spent here. -
So just to recap, a “system” that is designed to make the poor, poorer actually gives a family of four earning $25k a year the spending power of $60k a year.
That’s one weird way of being made poorer but I’m sure Hondo has some off topic gibberish to explain it all. -
All this retared thread aside....If you, as an individual, believe you are a victim of the “system” then fuck off. Go fucking be a poor piece of shit and spend your life blaming the nebulous “system” for your poor personal habits, low IQ, lack of ambition, and poor choices.
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Nothing says poor like a $1000.00 cell phone.
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And being 75 lbs overweight wearing PJs in line for a $6 ”coffee” at Starbucks.Sledog said:Nothing says poor like a $1000.00 cell phone.
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75 is a low estimate.MikeDamone said:
And being 75 lbs overweight wearing PJs in line for a $6 ”coffee” at Starbucks.Sledog said:Nothing says poor like a $1000.00 cell phone.
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WTGWT
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In theory I’d be on board with that. My concern is that you can hide behind “more efficient” when you really just want cuts.RaceBannon said:
Welfare needs to be more efficientallpurpleallgold said:Wild guess, that 60k number includes debt.
Thank you to all the conservatives making a great case for welfare. Poor people don’t have it that bad in America because welfare lifts them out of poverty. Great point. Let’s make sure all poor people have access to it.
Kind of sucks now
