538 now gives trump a 1 in 3 shot to win
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Trump > Hillary > Bernie
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Agree, but it's not the role of the FBI to campaign on behalf of Trump.dnc said:
“There are lots of people who don’t think Trump is qualified, but also believe Clinton is corrupt. What you hear a lot is that it’s a bad choice, between an incompetent and a corrupt politician,” said a former FBI official.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I thought that too until I read this article:greenblood said:
The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.greenblood said:
Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.DugtheDoog said:
This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.dhdawg said:http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast
their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.
The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
They're right, you know
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You have the SS FBI against the SS DOJTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Agree, but it's not the role of the FBI to campaign on behalf of Trump.dnc said:
“There are lots of people who don’t think Trump is qualified, but also believe Clinton is corrupt. What you hear a lot is that it’s a bad choice, between an incompetent and a corrupt politician,” said a former FBI official.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I thought that too until I read this article:greenblood said:
The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.greenblood said:
Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.DugtheDoog said:
This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.dhdawg said:http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast
their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.
The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
They're right, you know
That's some SS level shit.
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Look at Mr losers blame the refs nowTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Agree, but it's not the role of the FBI to campaign on behalf of Trump.dnc said:
“There are lots of people who don’t think Trump is qualified, but also believe Clinton is corrupt. What you hear a lot is that it’s a bad choice, between an incompetent and a corrupt politician,” said a former FBI official.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I thought that too until I read this article:greenblood said:
The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.greenblood said:
Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.DugtheDoog said:
This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.dhdawg said:http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast
their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.
The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
They're right, you know
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DNC is right ... it's probably closer to a coin flip than 1 in 3 ... there will be more bombs between now and Tuesday ... but the trending IMO favors Trump.
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disagree. Things could change but as of now he would have to win florida, which is still a toss up, and win NC, Nevada, and then upset in NH, Virginia, Penn or Colorado.
Even if he does, if Hillary wins the 3rd EV in Maine it would be a 269-269 tie, which I guess would be a win for trump.
It's going to be damn close, but if the election was held today she'd win -
if Hillary wasn't so slimy and involved in so much bad shit they wouldn't have anything to campaign on. Same thing as the media objectively going after trump more than Hillary for all the horrible shit he's said. in both cases it's deservedTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Agree, but it's not the role of the FBI to campaign on behalf of Trump.dnc said:
“There are lots of people who don’t think Trump is qualified, but also believe Clinton is corrupt. What you hear a lot is that it’s a bad choice, between an incompetent and a corrupt politician,” said a former FBI official.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I thought that too until I read this article:greenblood said:
The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.greenblood said:
Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.DugtheDoog said:
This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.dhdawg said:http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast
their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.
The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
They're right, you know
That's some SS level shit. -
The Hillary fan boys here were cheering last July when the DOJ didn't pursue. It was the best outcome for Trump.
It pissed off the FBI and Comey had to go forward now with all the evidence there is. -
yes. at that time it would have still given them a chance to nominate someone else. she didn't have enough pledged delegatesRaceBannon said:The Hillary fan boys here were cheering last July when the DOJ didn't pursue. It was the best outcome for Trump.
It pissed off the FBI and Comey had to go forward now with all the evidence there is.
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Not to mention it was another data point in "the system is rigged" argument, which benefits the non establishment candidate.RaceBannon said:The Hillary fan boys here were cheering last July when the DOJ didn't pursue. It was the best outcome for Trump.
It pissed off the FBI and Comey had to go forward now with all the evidence there is. -
Exactly. The party sold their soul to her long ago. For no apparent reasondhdawg said:
yes. at that time it would have still given them a chance to nominate someone else. she didn't have enough pledged delegatesRaceBannon said:The Hillary fan boys here were cheering last July when the DOJ didn't pursue. It was the best outcome for Trump.
It pissed off the FBI and Comey had to go forward now with all the evidence there is. -
ToucheRaceBannon said:
Look at Mr losers blame the refs nowTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Agree, but it's not the role of the FBI to campaign on behalf of Trump.dnc said:
“There are lots of people who don’t think Trump is qualified, but also believe Clinton is corrupt. What you hear a lot is that it’s a bad choice, between an incompetent and a corrupt politician,” said a former FBI official.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I thought that too until I read this article:greenblood said:
The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.greenblood said:
Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.DugtheDoog said:
This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.dhdawg said:http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast
their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.
The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
They're right, you know
That's some SS level shit.
Douche -
Had the opportunity to meet Rubio at a local business council meeting. He's very impressive in person, dialed in, very smart, understands the proper role of government and the effect excessive regulation has on the economy to a much greater degree than I expected. He's very personable as well and knows how to use self deprecation to great effect. He will retain his senate seat, and will resurface as a presidential candidate in the not too distant future. We're about to do a helluva lot worse regardless of how this election goes. Damn shame IMO.greenblood said:
I don't think Cruz would have had appeal.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hi.DugtheDoog said:
This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.dhdawg said:http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast
their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.
The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
The general electorate is much different than the Republican primary electorate.
Trump doesn't appeal to enough women or minorities to win. His only hope is that Hillary turns off enough of her base to lose.
The other Republicans could have eaten into her base and won more moderates.
The fact that the Republican party nominated a candidate that is so badly misaligned with the country as a whole is a bad sign for the party's future.
I would add Rubio to the mix. He'd be a big boost in Florida, Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado.
I think Rubio or Kasich would have more appeal. The other 15 candidates no.
Christie- lmao
Fiorina- Not a chance
Cruz- Would scare away moderates
Bush- Would be spending 3/4 of the election defending what his brother did.
Paul- I don't know
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If you're voting for free shit from the government YOU are ________ (insert race) trash!greenblood said:
But the difference with Ozone...dhdawg said:Bernie Sanders would be up by 10+ right now. He would have gotten all of the liberal base plus a lot of cross over from the white trash as ozone calls them.
But the democratic party had to force a corrupt insider involved in approximately 818,181 scandals down everyone's throats while calling anyone that didn't like her a mysoginist
By voting for Bernie instead of Trump, he'd be calling them the less fortunate not white trash. -
Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins. -
You might be right on everything else, but jeb wouldn't beat Hillary.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins. -
Jeb couldn't beat Off
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Liberals hate guns. Bad strategy for revolution.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins. -
Liberals are the ones that move to Canada, conservatives are the ones that BRB, JO over an armed revolution.Sledog said:
Liberals hate guns. Bad strategy for revolution.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
I'd say try to keep up, but I know you aren't capable. -
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins. -
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins. -
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
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Liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Mitt Romney pay the bills.Sledog said:
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
HTH -
I hope the door hits them, where the good lord split them. Hopefully they'll remember to take all the rest of the idiot liberals with them. GTFOOMC!2001400ex said:
Liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Mitt Romney pay the bills.Sledog said:
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
HTH
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Troomps hate winnersSledog said:
I hope the door hits them, where the good lord split them. Hopefully they'll remember to take all the rest of the idiot liberals with them. GTFOOMC!2001400ex said:
Liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Mitt Romney pay the bills.Sledog said:
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
HTH -
No we hate people that hate our country and want to make it a socialist paradise ruled with an iron fist. Our forefathers shot them. Didn't work out so well for King George 3.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Troomps hate winnersSledog said:
I hope the door hits them, where the good lord split them. Hopefully they'll remember to take all the rest of the idiot liberals with them. GTFOOMC!2001400ex said:
Liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Mitt Romney pay the bills.Sledog said:
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
HTH -
You'd make them leave if you weren't such a fucking pussy.Sledog said:
I hope the door hits them, where the good lord split them. Hopefully they'll remember to take all the rest of the idiot liberals with them. GTFOOMC!2001400ex said:
Liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Mitt Romney pay the bills.Sledog said:
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
HTH -
I've made people leave but they weren't on the Internet. Need help packing?dflea said:
You'd make them leave if you weren't such a fucking pussy.Sledog said:
I hope the door hits them, where the good lord split them. Hopefully they'll remember to take all the rest of the idiot liberals with them. GTFOOMC!2001400ex said:
Liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Mitt Romney pay the bills.Sledog said:
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
HTH -
yep. the only guy in the entire campaign outside of Rand Paul who argued against the patriot act wants to "rule with an iron fist."Sledog said:
No we hate people that hate our country and want to make it a socialist paradise ruled with an iron fist. Our forefathers shot them. Didn't work out so well for King George 3.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Troomps hate winnersSledog said:
I hope the door hits them, where the good lord split them. Hopefully they'll remember to take all the rest of the idiot liberals with them. GTFOOMC!2001400ex said:
Liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Mitt Romney pay the bills.Sledog said:
The point was liberals AKA socialists AKA communists are not trustworthy.ThomasFremont said:
Thanks for proving my poont.Sledog said:
Here's you socialist stalwart.ThomasFremont said:Bernie would destroy Trump.
Kasich/Rubio/Jeb would beat Hillary.
Somehow we? ended up with 2 terrible general election candidates.
Can't wait for the exodus to Canada or the armed revolution when Trump or Hillary wins.
Will all of them really move to Canada? I don't think Canada can afford that much free shit.
I have something to look forward to.
HTH
Your ignorance is stunning
