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538 now gives trump a 1 in 3 shot to win

dhdawg
dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
edited November 2016 in Tug Tavern
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,037
    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they havelike always.

    IRYK
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited November 2016
    It's gonna be closer to 2/5 or coin flip by election day, baring the media dropping another Trump bomb.

    But let's be real, somebody somewhere is sitting on video of Trump saying the N word or faggot (abundance? DDY??) and is waiting for just the right moment (or the right price) to release it.

    Gonna be an interesting five days.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited November 2016
    I think another appeal to Trump is to watch the heads explode on CNN, ABC, CBS, and MSNBC, if Trump actually wins. The looks on Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, and George Stephanonopoupoulos.... would be hilarious.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,723 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    That anyone would vote for a candidate with such blatant disregard for our laws, ethics and morals is the scary part. She'll be impeached and jailed and that idiot Kane would be president.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I think another appeal to Trump is to watch the heads explode on CNN, ABC, CBS, and MSNBC, if Trump actually wins. The looks on Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, and George Stephanonopoupoulos.... would be hilarious.

    They'd turn the tables on election result disputes fast than a cheap Chinese family-style lazy susan.

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    That anyone would vote for a candidate with such blatant disregard for our laws, ethics and morals is the scary part. She'll be impeached and jailed and that idiot Kane would be president.
    I thought you liked Trump?
  • DonLemonParty
    DonLemonParty Member Posts: 155
    edited November 2016

    I think another appeal to Trump is to watch the heads explode on CNN, ABC, CBS, and MSNBC, if Trump actually wins. The looks on Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, and George Stephanonopoupoulos.... would be hilarious.

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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Sledog said:

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    That anyone would vote for a candidate with such blatant disregard for our laws, ethics and morals is the scary part. She'll be impeached and jailed and that idiot Kane would be president.
    I thought you liked Trump?
    On ethics and morals you are pretty much right, but only one candidate is in the middle of a criminal investigation.

    On pure wit alone, I had to awesome it.
  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I think another appeal to Trump is to watch the heads explode on CNN, ABC, CBS, and MSNBC, if Trump actually wins. The looks on Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow, and George Stephanonopoupoulos.... would be hilarious.

    FREE PUBES!







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    That was the first of many horrible moments in 2016.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited November 2016

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
    Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.

    Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
    Hi.

    The general electorate is much different than the Republican primary electorate.

    Trump doesn't appeal to enough women or minorities to win. His only hope is that Hillary turns off enough of her base to lose.

    The other Republicans could have eaten into her base and won more moderates.

    The fact that the Republican party nominated a candidate that is so badly misaligned with the country as a whole is a bad sign for the party's future.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Boobs seems worried.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    PurpleJ said:

    Boobs seems worried.

    Nah. If Hillary Lockie loses, she deserves it.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited November 2016

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
    Hi.

    The general electorate is much different than the Republican primary electorate.

    Trump doesn't appeal to enough women or minorities to win. His only hope is that Hillary turns off enough of her base to lose.

    The other Republicans could have eaten into her base and won more moderates.

    The fact that the Republican party nominated a candidate that is so badly misaligned with the country as a whole is a bad sign for the party's future.
    I don't think Cruz would have had appeal.

    I would add Rubio to the mix. He'd be a big boost in Florida, Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado.

    I think Rubio or Kasich would have more appeal. The other 15 candidates no.

    Christie- lmao

    Fiorina- Not a chance

    Cruz- Would scare away moderates

    Bush- Would be spending 3/4 of the election defending what his brother did.

    Paul- I don't know

    Everybody else had no chance from the beginning
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
    Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.

    Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
    We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Paul and maybe Kasich would have beaten her. Not sure about the rest.

  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    PurpleJ said:

    Obama just needs more time to get his own guys into the FBI.

    This is very true. He choose to put a Republican in charge when he didn't need to. This is partially on him. It's mostly on hillary for opening the door up for the fbi to do this though
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Bernie Sanders would be up by 10+ right now. He would have gotten all of the liberal base plus a lot of cross over from the white trash as ozone calls them.
    But the democratic party had to force a corrupt insider involved in approximately 818,181 scandals down everyone's throats while calling anyone that didn't like her a mysoginist
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
    Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.

    Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
    We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.
    The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.

    I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
    I thought that too until I read this article:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
    Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.

    Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
    We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.
    The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.

    I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
    I thought that too until I read this article:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
    If true, it makes me wonder what else will be leaked between now and Tuesday.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dhdawg said:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

    their model, which is usually incredibly accurate. gives Hillary a path to win if she takes Pennsylvania, Virginia, colorado, and new Hampshire. I still think she wins, but I can't see her getting more than 280 at the most.
    this is gonna be a tight, nerve-wracking election. and the democrats deserve it for nominating Hillary and running the condescending and shitty campaign that they have.

    Hillary absolutely deserves to lose.

    The problem is that the GOP nominated the one person she can beat.
    This is a terrible argument and used far too often. Trump receive more primary votes than any republican ever. And Trump basically lapped everyone else in the field. But since you say Trump is the only republican Hilary can beat, how many points ahead would Jeb be right now? And who do you think would have a bigger lead, Jeb or Lyin Ted? What about Kasich? He'd be winning in a landslide, right? Carly Fiorina would totally be outperforming Trump as wll.
    Primaries are different than a general election. However, I don't we'd be seeing these leaks if another candidate was running. Trump would out perform every primary opponent except for Kasich.

    Kasich would be up about 10 points right now. He'd carry Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He had more crossover appeal than Trump in a general election.
    We would see the stuff against Hillary regardless because the GOP and the FBI hate her.
    The GOP hate all Dems, and vice versa. But for the FBI to hate her, it leads me to think of the smoke and fire analogy. There's something there if the FBI is on her like white on rice.

    I also don't think the FBI's anger is towards Hillary specifically. I think it's more towards the DOJ trying to thwart their investigation, because of their relationship with the Cintons.
    I thought that too until I read this article:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
    “There are lots of people who don’t think Trump is qualified, but also believe Clinton is corrupt. What you hear a lot is that it’s a bad choice, between an incompetent and a corrupt politician,” said a former FBI official.

    They're right, you know