The standards of success for Husky Football 2013
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To many people prioritize kick ass pressers, access to practices and glad handing coaches over winning. Don't get it, there are doogs that wouldn't trade Sark for Nick Saban and a guaranteed national championship.
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Not to mention the Dawgman.com columns in 2008 from Dick Baird and Chris Fetters talking about how counter productive it was to fire coaches and that Willingham's great recruiting class needed a chance to mature.
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It's counter productive to not fire the wrong coach. Of course, it's counter productive to hire that coach in the first place which UW has done 3 times in a row now.DerekJohnson said:Not to mention the Dawgman.com columns in 2008 from Dick Baird and Chris Fetters talking about how counter productive it was to fire coaches and that Willingham's great recruiting class needed a chance to mature.
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I didn't think our friend Tawd had the cajones to fire Ty and if the story about him defying ME's order to do so is accurate, it appears that is true. Woody might be quicker on the trigger than Tawd, but I think if the administration can find any excuse for another .500 season (injuries, youth, etc...), they will give Sark another year. I hope Woody proves me wrong, but the past dozen years have left me less than optimistic.ACSlaterDawg said:Let me clarify...7-5 he'd get another year unless the bowl game is a disaster...6-6 I highly doubt it.
Displaced, we watched the 07 ASU game together and afterwords you thought they'd never fire Ty. I said it would happen the next season. Almost both of us were wrong if Emmert would have followed thru with his initial firing.
If they are 6-6, Sark will be fired for financial reasons alone...the big money will be pissed...no one is donating after four years of no improvement with an unproven coach in a new expensive stadium. Plus Fleenor thinks Sark won't be fired anytime soon. I rest my case.
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I certainly don't know, but I think fan expectations are so low/non existent that as long as the ticket sales go well, he's here forever.
I lost trust in the deep pocket donors a long, long time ago. Rick Redmond and others had wet pants over Ty? Then they give us Cream Puff? I truly believe Husky football is dead until proven otherwise. I see not one spec of hope anywhere in the administration or with the major supporters.
If Cream Puff were in the SEC, coaching a near top tier team like Georgia or So. Carolina he'd been run out of town after the Alamo Bowl. LSU, AL, or Florida would have flushed him after the second year. Of course they wouldn't have hired a nobody with no experience either.
If Washington was still a major program, which clearly it's not, Cream Puff's name would on everyone's shit or get off the pot hot seat list. We are now Cal north.....nice stadium, at best an average program.
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whoever has last say at youdubb isn't really a football girl so the reality is, until woody is gassed, then sark is here to stay. no way we have a coaching change for at least 2 more seasons.
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We need stability. Cambodia hasn't been the same since they fired Pol Pot
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did Pol Pot give his people timeouts and suck up to the Soviet Union?RaceBannon said:We need stability. Cambodia hasn't been the same since they fired Pol Pot
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After almost being fired in 07, I highly doubt 5-7 would have kept Tyroan in 08 but feel free to think that way. Dawgman is not representative of the fan base...its actually become way more pussified than the fan base.
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You are the vocal minority.ACSlaterDawg said:After almost being fired in 07, I highly doubt 5-7 would have kept Tyroan in 08 but feel free to think that way. Dawgman is not representative of the fan base...its actually become way more pussified than the fan base.
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You're DisplacedDawgs dad?ACSlaterDawg said:Let me clarify...7-5 he'd get another year unless the bowl game is a disaster...6-6 I highly doubt it.
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MikeDamone said:
You're DisplacedDawgs dad?ACSlaterDawg said:Let me clarify...7-5 he'd get another year unless the bowl game is a disaster...6-6 I highly doubt it.
Displaced, we watched the 07 ASU game together....
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I know it's not the company line in here, but I think you're right, especially if the pattern of blowout losses continues.ACSlaterDawg said:Sark has talked himself into a corner. Expectations are higher than people here think. He will get fired if he goes 7-6.
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If you want to talk about a company line here that's fine. If you don't toe it, your gone.Southerndawg said:
I know it's not the company line in here, but I think you're right, especially if the pattern of blowout losses continues.ACSlaterDawg said:Sark has talked himself into a corner. Expectations are higher than people here think. He will get fired if he goes 7-6.
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My opinion is that that administration is as fucked up as ever and whether sark stays or goes doesn't matter as long as pool boy is picking the next loser. If he wins 8 and gets blown out 4 times they start work on his statue
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Don't forget a 4-year rolling contract with a buyout so big, Fleens, AASSHAT, and Harv won't even have enough combined nickels to get rid of him.RaceBannon said:If he wins 8 and gets blown out 4 times they start work on his statue
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A balanced opinion. I sure hope you're right Rebel Dawg.Southerndawg said:
I know it's not the company line in here, but I think you're right, especially if the pattern of blowout losses continues.ACSlaterDawg said:Sark has talked himself into a corner. Expectations are higher than people here think. He will get fired if he goes 7-6.
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Good point about blowouts.Southerndawg said:
I know it's not the company line in here, but I think you're right, especially if the pattern of blowout losses continues.ACSlaterDawg said:Sark has talked himself into a corner. Expectations are higher than people here think. He will get fired if he goes 7-6.
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A 9 or 10 win season was there for the taking this year. Protect the ball against a mediocre USC team. Show up against a mediocre Errorzona (LOL!) team. Apple Cup. My goodness. Apple Cup. Between that and the bowl game you've got four games. If Washington wins two of them, you're at 9-4, and everybody's happy. 9-4 in year 4 would've been great progress. Instead, 7-6. Again.chrisvashon said:
Agree. And for as much shit as we give Sark, a 9 or 10 win season is there for the taking.
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Disagreesection8 said:A large part of the fan base consider 6-6 and a shitty bowl game to be winning.
Most people want better than that and expect it * eventually *...
What I've noticed is that the Doogs are into excuse making, and they're usually spoonfed said excuses from most of the Suckattle media. Since most of them don't have (m)any critical thinking skills, they accept these excuses. Every. Year. It's always going to be better next year, 2014, and in some cases now it's 2018 or 2019.
Also, I think some of our opinions are a little skewed from all the heavy handed propagandizing done by Kim (and some others). In other words, there are more people with views that are more or less in line with HHBs than we might perceive, but they've been silenced or ostracized to the point where they don't give their opinions much. They end up on sites like this or Dawgbored....and to be fair, some of the guys on Dawgbored need to leave the basement once in a while...
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Suckattle! LOL!1!
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Not so sure, the completely non-scientific survey of people that I was sitting near last year, talk to at work or in bars etc... all seem to be pretty happy with "winning" seasons of 6-6- or 7-5 as long as there's a bowl game. There are definitely those out there that doog it up but ultimately want to see the expectations at 10+ wins but that really seems to be a minority at this point and I do agree that the media in this town which seem to hate winners really don't help.
The great irony is that more people would probably subscribe to Doogman if they actually had the balls to call out the lack of performance rather than making continuous excuses and revising history to match the product on the field or at least not go out of their way to cater to the whiny pussies that can't handle someone making fun of them on the internets.
One can only hope that people paying out the nose for Tyee donations and a new stadium will start to ask why the team is stuck in the middle but my guess is that average performance boosted by a bunch of patsy non-conference games and weak bowls will keep the coaching staff mostly intact for the next couple years. -
"One can only hope that people paying out the nose for Tyee donations and a new stadium will start to ask why the team is stuck in the middle but my guess is that average performance boosted by a bunch of patsy non-conference games and weak bowls will keep the coaching staff mostly intact for the next couple years. "
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Why do you hate money?MikeDamone said:"One can only hope that people paying out the nose for Tyee donations and a new stadium will start to ask why the team is stuck in the middle but my guess is that average performance boosted by a bunch of patsy non-conference games and weak bowls will keep the coaching staff mostly intact for the next couple years. "
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Because when I was a kid, on crisp fall afternoons I went to games with my Dad. Or someone who looked like him and didn't work shift work. (But was still a TUFF liberal who would SMASH your FACE in)TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Why do you hate money?MikeDamone said:"One can only hope that people paying out the nose for Tyee donations and a new stadium will start to ask why the team is stuck in the middle but my guess is that average performance boosted by a bunch of patsy non-conference games and weak bowls will keep the coaching staff mostly intact for the next couple years. "
I'm here aren't I? What more do you want from me?
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The average fan's views are closer to HHB's than Dawgman's. Probably not heading into the AC, but after the last two games, definitely.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Disagreesection8 said:A large part of the fan base consider 6-6 and a shitty bowl game to be winning.
Most people want better than that and expect it * eventually *...
What I've noticed is that the Doogs are into excuse making, and they're usually spoonfed said excuses from most of the Suckattle media. Since most of them don't have (m)any critical thinking skills, they accept these excuses. Every. Year. It's always going to be better next year, 2014, and in some cases now it's 2018 or 2019.
Also, I think some of our opinions are a little skewed from all the heavy handed propagandizing done by Kim (and some others). In other words, there are more people with views that are more or less in line with HHBs than we might perceive, but they've been silenced or ostracized to the point where they don't give their opinions much. They end up on sites like this or Dawgbored....and to be fair, some of the guys on Dawgbored need to leave the basement once in a while...
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Judging from the comments on Condotta's blog, the expectations are increasing. There are still plenty of Doogs rationalizing everything from 0-12 to UW is so damn young....again but there is an increasing amount of people saying 9-10 wins as the norm from here on and no more blowouts.
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Those fuckers are following the Auburndawg script:CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Judging from the comments on Condotta's blog, the expectations are increasing. There are still plenty of Doogs rationalizing everything from 0-12 to UW is so damn young....again but there is an increasing amount of people saying 9-10 wins as the norm from here on and no more blowouts.
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That's exactly my concern.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Those fuckers are following the Auburndawg script:CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Judging from the comments on Condotta's blog, the expectations are increasing. There are still plenty of Doogs rationalizing everything from 0-12 to UW is so damn young....again but there is an increasing amount of people saying 9-10 wins as the norm from here on and no more blowouts.
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Lather. Rinse. Repeat.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Those fuckers are following the Auburndawg script:CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Judging from the comments on Condotta's blog, the expectations are increasing. There are still plenty of Doogs rationalizing everything from 0-12 to UW is so damn young....again but there is an increasing amount of people saying 9-10 wins as the norm from here on and no more blowouts.
High expectations in March and lots of excuses in December.
AuburnDave is the worst kind of Husky fan.
