Fun fact I just looked up about James 1988 team that almost got him fired. In those 5 losses the Huskies lost by a combined 15 points.
Biggest loss of the year was to #2 UCLA 24-17. So James in the year that almost got him fired(who knows how close it really was) was pretty unlucky and we probably could have won 8-9 games that year.
While Sark has yet to have a season where the Huskies have outscored their opponents.
Fun fact I just looked up about James 1988 team that almost got him fired. In those 5 losses the Huskies lost by a combined 15 points.
Biggest loss of the year was to #2 UCLA 24-17. So James in the year that almost got him fired(who knows how close it really was) was pretty unlucky and we probably could have won 8-9 games that year.
While Sark has yet to have a season where the Huskies have outscored their opponents.
Fun fact I just looked up about James 1988 team that almost got him fired. In those 5 losses the Huskies lost by a combined 15 points.
Biggest loss of the year was to #2 UCLA 24-17. So James in the year that almost got him fired(who knows how close it really was) was pretty unlucky and we probably could have won 8-9 games that year.
While Sark has yet to have a season where the Huskies have outscored their opponents.
In my heart that '88 team went 9-2
Difference between the coaches is Sark actually thinks his team last year was 9-4. Meanwhile James didn't look at his team as a team who caught breaks but instead decided he needed to make some coaching adjustments and changes to his program.
I don't think James was in any serious trouble. He declined a raise. It was an integrity move; One I doubt Sark would make.
Of course, he bought himself a cushion with all the good teams he had. There were a few Rose Bowls & a few top 10 finishes... a bunch of top 20 finishes... Those always help.
I don't think James was in any serious trouble. He declined a raise. It was an integrity move; One I doubt Sark would make.
Of course, he bought himself a cushion with all the good teams he had. There were a few Rose Bowls & a few top 10 finishes... a bunch of top 20 finishes... Those always help.
I also don't think he was in serious trouble because back then we had a good A.D. in Mike Lude. A lesser A.D. and he might have been fired.
Like I pointed out the team was 6-5 but when you lose 5 games by a combined 15 points you just had an unlucky year.
While Sark going 7-6 is the complete opposite. He was LUCKY to be 7-6 and in 2011 and especially in 2010 his Pythagorean W-L was like 4 to 5 wins.
I don't think James was in any serious trouble. He declined a raise. It was an integrity move; One I doubt Sark would make.
Of course, he bought himself a cushion with all the good teams he had. There were a few Rose Bowls & a few top 10 finishes... a bunch of top 20 finishes... Those always help.
I also don't think he was in serious trouble because back then we had a good A.D. in Mike Lude. A lesser A.D. and he might have been fired.
Like I pointed out the team was 6-5 but when you lose 5 games by a combined 15 points you just had an unlucky year.
While Sark going 7-6 is the complete opposite. He was LUCKY to be 7-6 and in 2011 and especially in 2010 his Pythagorean W-L was like 4 to 5 wins.
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Mupphukkas be doogin left and right around here. Mods better watch that shit. Be creepin in and catch y'all unawares. Sven and Race hafta start a new Harvey dicksuck bored yet again.
I don't think James was in any serious trouble. He declined a raise. It was an integrity move; One I doubt Sark would make.
Of course, he bought himself a cushion with all the good teams he had. There were a few Rose Bowls & a few top 10 finishes... a bunch of top 20 finishes... Those always help.
I also don't think he was in serious trouble because back then we had a good A.D. in Mike Lude. A lesser A.D. and he might have been fired.
Like I pointed out the team was 6-5 but when you lose 5 games by a combined 15 points you just had an unlucky year.
While Sark going 7-6 is the complete opposite. He was LUCKY to be 7-6 and in 2011 and especially in 2010 his Pythagorean W-L was like 4 to 5 wins.
Kind of like how I said in the other thread, 8-5 is only good if you blowout teams in your wins and then you have close losses. You dismissed that in the other thread as doogish.
I don't think James was in any serious trouble. He declined a raise. It was an integrity move; One I doubt Sark would make.
Of course, he bought himself a cushion with all the good teams he had. There were a few Rose Bowls & a few top 10 finishes... a bunch of top 20 finishes... Those always help.
I also don't think he was in serious trouble because back then we had a good A.D. in Mike Lude. A lesser A.D. and he might have been fired.
Like I pointed out the team was 6-5 but when you lose 5 games by a combined 15 points you just had an unlucky year.
While Sark going 7-6 is the complete opposite. He was LUCKY to be 7-6 and in 2011 and especially in 2010 his Pythagorean W-L was like 4 to 5 wins.
Kind of like how I said in the other thread, 8-5 is only good if you blowout teams in your wins and then you have close losses. You dismissed that in the other thread as doogish.
DJ had a track record though.
I never said that year was good. Just illustrating how that was rock bottom for James was still better than any Sark season.
Fun fact I just looked up about James 1988 team that almost got him fired. In those 5 losses the Huskies lost by a combined 15 points.
Biggest loss of the year was to #2 UCLA 24-17. So James in the year that almost got him fired(who knows how close it really was) was pretty unlucky and we probably could have won 8-9 games that year.
While Sark has yet to have a season where the Huskies have outscored their opponents.
That 1988 team is the squad that Don James publically announced at season's end did not deserve a post-season bowl invite even though they finished the regular season at 6-5, and there were no Big Sky FCS cupcakes such as EWU or Portland State on the schedule that season. Obviously, Sark would never consider keeping a 6-5 team home during the postseason, but DJ did.
That '88 Husky team was so mediocre that I skipped the UW-OSU game and attended my daughter's youth soccer state playoff, something I would never have done before. Thus, I missed out on one of the biggest upset losses in Husky Football history.
If DJ was on a hot seat in 1988, it must have been facetiously plugged in by the Dawgfather himself in one of his media whipping moods. If you don't believe that, take a look at the '87, '88, and '89 recruiting classes. 1987: B. Collins, E. Cunningham, W. Doctor, C. Fraley, D. Hall, D. Jones, G. Lewis, S. Malamala, A. Pierce, T. Powe, and K. Rongen; 1988: M. Bailey, J. Barry, M. Brunell, J. Clifford, S. Emtman, J. Fields, E. Harris, D. Hoffman, L. Kennedy, O. Mckay, D. Smith, and D. Turner; 1989: B. Bryant, H. Butler, D. Farr, J. Fontaine, B.J. Hobert, M. Jones, P. Kaligis, J. Kralik, A. Mason, S. Pahukoa, P. Pierson, and T. Smith.
Those of us who know Husky Football can recognize that those three classes were RS freshmen ('87), true freshman ('88), or prospects being recruited ('89 LOI's) during that supposedly infamous 1988 season and along with others formed the hardcore of our undefeated 1991 team that won an NC. Not only have new wave Doogs repeatedly derided 1988 as DJ's low watermark hotseat season, but they have also proclaimed on occasion that DJ's '87, '88, and '89 recruiting classes were at best unremarkable. This is Doog propaganda at it's silliest.
That's of course not how I remember it and in fact, the excitement over those kids becoming Huskies was such that I attended several Spring scrimmages in 1988, 1989, and 1990 and could hardly believe the athleticism and talent that the Dawgfather was assembling on the practice field. The media might not have understood or cared about good things happening at Montlake, but it's definite that DJ and staff as well as AD Lude knew in 1988 and were excited about what was coming down the pike and how bright the future looked for Husky Football during that dismal 1988 season.
Fun fact I just looked up about James 1988 team that almost got him fired. In those 5 losses the Huskies lost by a combined 15 points.
Biggest loss of the year was to #2 UCLA 24-17. So James in the year that almost got him fired(who knows how close it really was) was pretty unlucky and we probably could have won 8-9 games that year.
While Sark has yet to have a season where the Huskies have outscored their opponents.
That 1988 team is the squad that Don James publically announced at season's end did not deserve a post-season bowl invite even though they finished the regular season at 6-5, and there were no Big Sky FCS cupcakes such as EWU or Portland State on the schedule that season. Obviously, Sark would never consider keeping a 6-5 team home during the postseason, but DJ did.
That '88 Husky team was so mediocre that I skipped the UW-OSU game and attended my daughter's youth soccer state playoff, something I would never have done before. Thus, I missed out on one of the biggest upset losses in Husky Football history.
If DJ was on a hot seat in 1988, it must have been facetiously plugged in by the Dawgfather himself in one of his media whipping moods. If you don't believe that, take a look at the '87, '88, and '89 recruiting classes. 1987: B. Collins, E. Cunningham, W. Doctor, C. Fraley, D. Hall, D. Jones, G. Lewis, S. Malamala, A. Pierce, T. Powe, and K. Rongen; 1988: M. Bailey, J. Barry, M. Brunell, J. Clifford, S. Emtman, J. Fields, E. Harris, D. Hoffman, L. Kennedy, O. Mckay, D. Smith, and D. Turner; 1989: B. Bryant, H. Butler, D. Farr, J. Fontaine, B.J. Hobert, M. Jones, P. Kaligis, J. Kralik, A. Mason, S. Pahukoa, P. Pierson, and T. Smith.
Those of us who know Husky Football can recognize that those three classes were RS freshmen ('87), true freshman ('88), or prospects being recruited ('89 LOI's) during that supposedly infamous 1988 season and along with others formed the hardcore of our undefeated 1991 team that won an NC. Not only have new wave Doogs repeatedly derided 1988 as DJ's low watermark hotseat season, but they have also proclaimed on occasion that DJ's '87, '88, and '89 recruiting classes were at best unremarkable. This is Doog propaganda at it's silliest.
That's of course not how I remember it and in fact, the excitement over those kids becoming Huskies was such that I attended several Spring scrimmages in 1988, 1989, and 1990 and could hardly believe the athleticism and talent that the Dawgfather was assembling on the practice field. The media might not have understood or cared about good things happening at Montlake, but it's definite that DJ and staff as well as AD Lude knew in 1988 and were excited about what was coming down the pike and how bright the future looked for Husky Football during that dismal 1988 season.
In 1988 I took a break from D&D and band practice and sat in a the rain in a half empty husky stadium to watch Arizona kick a field goal at the end of the game to beat UW 16-13.I said I wanted Don James fired that day. In was the low point of 15 years of following the huskies (hi puppy steele!). I was right that day, and don James knew it and felt the same way, he was failing. Rather than make excuses and go on a PR tour, he got to work and figured out what he was missing. No chest bumping players,no "aloha Brah"...he got to work, immediately. The results speak for themselves. Can Sark do the same? It doesn't look like it. If he doesn't do it starting in less than four weeks, he should resign. He won't. Nor will he be Fired. UW has changed. The fans have changed. What you see is what you get. Minnesota built a new stadium too.....
"I skipped the UW-OSU game and attended my daughter's youth soccer state playoff, something I would never have done before. Thus, I missed out on one of the biggest upset losses in Husky Football history."
"I skipped the UW-OSU game and attended my daughter's youth soccer state playoff, something I would never have done before. Thus, I missed out on one of the biggest upset losses in Husky Football history."
"I skipped the UW-OSU game and attended my daughter's youth soccer state playoff, something I would never have done before. Thus, I missed out on one of the biggest upset losses in Husky Football history."
1-5 wins disaster Agreed. Fired 6 wins extremely disappointing Fired 7 wins mediocrity defined, time for a new coach Agreed, but it won't happen 8 wins decent season, time for a new coach Hotseat 9 wins modestly successful season, Sark probably deserves another season Progress 10 wins successful season, Sark would deserve another season 11-13 wins Spectacular season; Sark would deserve extension and healthy raise
1-5 wins disaster Agreed. Fired 6 wins extremely disappointing Fired 7 wins mediocrity defined, time for a new coach Agreed, but it won't happen 8 wins decent season, time for a new coach Hotseat 9 wins modestly successful season, Sark probably deserves another season Progress 10 wins successful season, Sark would deserve another season 11-13 wins Spectacular season; Sark would deserve extension and healthy raise
1-5 wins disaster Agreed. Fired 6 wins extremely disappointing Fired 7 wins mediocrity defined, time for a new coach Agreed, but it won't happen 8 wins decent season, time for a new coach Hotseat 9 wins modestly successful season, Sark probably deserves another season Progress 10 wins successful season, Sark would deserve another season 11-13 wins Spectacular season; Sark would deserve extension and healthy raise
10+ wins and Sark IS the man.
Disagree. 10 wins and I'll support him staying around, but it's going to take much more than one above average season out of five to make Sark the man. He did a pretty good job in year one and has been below average each of the three years since. I like the defensive hires but he's going to have to do something more than one 10 win season to become anything close to the man.
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Biggest loss of the year was to #2 UCLA 24-17. So James in the year that almost got him fired(who knows how close it really was) was pretty unlucky and we probably could have won 8-9 games that year.
While Sark has yet to have a season where the Huskies have outscored their opponents.
Of course, he bought himself a cushion with all the good teams he had. There were a few Rose Bowls & a few top 10 finishes... a bunch of top 20 finishes... Those always help.
Like I pointed out the team was 6-5 but when you lose 5 games by a combined 15 points you just had an unlucky year.
While Sark going 7-6 is the complete opposite. He was LUCKY to be 7-6 and in 2011 and especially in 2010 his Pythagorean W-L was like 4 to 5 wins.
Mupphukkas be doogin left and right around here. Mods better watch that shit. Be creepin in and catch y'all unawares. Sven and Race hafta start a new Harvey dicksuck bored yet again.
DJ had a track record though.
HTH
That '88 Husky team was so mediocre that I skipped the UW-OSU game and attended my daughter's youth soccer state playoff, something I would never have done before. Thus, I missed out on one of the biggest upset losses in Husky Football history.
If DJ was on a hot seat in 1988, it must have been facetiously plugged in by the Dawgfather himself in one of his media whipping moods. If you don't believe that, take a look at the '87, '88, and '89 recruiting classes. 1987: B. Collins, E. Cunningham, W. Doctor, C. Fraley, D. Hall, D. Jones, G. Lewis, S. Malamala, A. Pierce, T. Powe, and K. Rongen; 1988: M. Bailey, J. Barry, M. Brunell, J. Clifford, S. Emtman, J. Fields, E. Harris, D. Hoffman, L. Kennedy, O. Mckay, D. Smith, and D. Turner; 1989: B. Bryant, H. Butler, D. Farr, J. Fontaine, B.J. Hobert, M. Jones, P. Kaligis, J. Kralik, A. Mason, S. Pahukoa, P. Pierson, and T. Smith.
Those of us who know Husky Football can recognize that those three classes were RS freshmen ('87), true freshman ('88), or prospects being recruited ('89 LOI's) during that supposedly infamous 1988 season and along with others formed the hardcore of our undefeated 1991 team that won an NC. Not only have new wave Doogs repeatedly derided 1988 as DJ's low watermark hotseat season, but they have also proclaimed on occasion that DJ's '87, '88, and '89 recruiting classes were at best unremarkable. This is Doog propaganda at it's silliest.
That's of course not how I remember it and in fact, the excitement over those kids becoming Huskies was such that I attended several Spring scrimmages in 1988, 1989, and 1990 and could hardly believe the athleticism and talent that the Dawgfather was assembling on the practice field. The media might not have understood or cared about good things happening at Montlake, but it's definite that DJ and staff as well as AD Lude knew in 1988 and were excited about what was coming down the pike and how bright the future looked for Husky Football during that dismal 1988 season.
That was in 1985, not '88
10+ wins and Sark IS the man.