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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    81 Million Votes. 26 Million more than 2016.

    Explain that, Libs.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    edited August 2022

    81 Million Votes. 26 Million more than 2016.

    Explain that, Libs.

    It’s been explained quite a few times, actually.

    It would be pretty impressive for the GOP to screw up November and not take both houses.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,470 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    81 Million Votes. 26 Million more than 2016.

    Explain that, Libs.

    It’s been explained quite a few times, actually.

    It would be pretty impressive for the GOP to screw up November and not take both houses.
    Not satisfactorily.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    81 Million Votes. 26 Million more than 2016.

    Explain that, Libs.

    It’s been explained quite a few times, actually.

    It would be pretty impressive for the GOP to screw up November and not take both houses.
    Really? Link?
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    pawz said:

    MelloDawg said:

    81 Million Votes. 26 Million more than 2016.

    Explain that, Libs.

    It’s been explained quite a few times, actually.

    It would be pretty impressive for the GOP to screw up November and not take both houses.
    Not satisfactorily.

    I accept your dissatisfaction and respect the right you have to your opinion.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    About a month ago I got skewered for claiming the SC decision to hand abortion back to the states would hurt the chances of Reps from taking over both halls of congress. The numbers have tightened up quite a bit over the last several weeks and I don't see the huge movement right in this upcoming election.

    The timing of the SC decision could not have come at a worse time. The Reps did their usual fuck up by running easy candidates for rats to compete with and the press is doing their normal hatchet job on Republicans and complete and utter praise for that fucking idiot biden. All combined have had an impact.

    This is going to be interesting but it is no longer going to be the landslide everyone has been predicting over the last year.

    Curious on some others thoughts.

    I’m well documented as saying taking on abortion before the midterms was as losing of a strategy as there was.

    The Supremes did their thing, which was not in control of candidates running for election. But all of the states doubling down on restrictions has been a disaster.

    We’re down to maybe keeping a 50/50 in the Senate and maybe coming out 7-10 seats ahead in the House.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,263 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    pawz said:

    MelloDawg said:

    81 Million Votes. 26 Million more than 2016.

    Explain that, Libs.

    It’s been explained quite a few times, actually.

    It would be pretty impressive for the GOP to screw up November and not take both houses.
    Not satisfactorily.

    I accept your dissatisfaction and respect the right you have to your opinion.
    It’s because everyone hates the orange man so much.

    Is that your explanation?

    Because Biden as a pure candidate is the weakest since Dukakis.

    Honestly he’s probably a worse candidate than Dukakis.
  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275
    edited August 2022
    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,062 Founders Club

    hardhat said:
    This lady is a doofus and that can be recognized within seconds.
    Even though she is a believer in what she does I still say she is hampered by not being a sociopath like Ginger Pasaki was

    She stumbles over the lies way too much
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,062 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    I'm not religious at all and I still supported overturning Roe. Letting the states decide for themselves what abortion laws they want doesn't have anything to do with religion.
    The GOP is bad at this message. Real bad

    California doesn't want Oklahoma to make their laws but wants to make Oklahoma laws

    The left freaked out because they list the federal hammer and now it's state by state

    If the Supreme Court kept the imaginary right it would be crickets
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,291 Standard Supporter

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    Don't need to be a religious person to have morals.

    If people want to kill unborn babies as a form of birth control there will be plenty of states where it's legal.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited August 2022
    MelloDawg said:

    81 Million Votes. 26 Million more than 2016.

    Explain that, Libs.

    It’s been explained quite a few times, actually.

    It would be pretty impressive for the GOP to screw up November and not take both houses.

    What's impressive is for you to continue to pretend to be a 'centrist'.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,612 Standard Supporter

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
    Please try to pay attention. "It's a living breathing document."
  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    Overturning Roe was RIGHT for a plethora of reasons.

    Abortion is not a Constitutional right. It's not whether 1 poor mother terminates a pregnancy or 1,000,000 poor mothers terminate pregnancies. It's not about the pragmatic approach to poverty. It's about Constitutional law.

    The SCOTUS assigned the task of determining legality and terms of abortion back to the states where it rightfully belongs. This helps the right in the long run - as without that determination, everything else they stand for can be overturned and mandated at the federal level.


    You'll note the democratic controlled House and Senate haven't touched the third rail of abortion either - because they know misdefinition of the allowable term of abortion puts them in a corner. They lose their extreme leftists by putting limits on when abortion is allowable, they look like baby killers if they don't.




    It’s a net negative for society. More poor people having babies only hurts the whole in the long run.

    I’m not even focusing on women’s rights, I’m focusing on what’s best for society as a whole in our current climate.

    Who do you think is taking care of these poor peoples babies? The taxpayers are bearing the financial burden. Society is paying the criminal burden.

    Many of the parents who get abortions don’t deserve to have babies anyway and now many will have them. Put two and two together on that bad boy.

    Lets force a poor drug addicted 19 year old in certain states to bring a baby into this world. Makes complete sense…..we can talk about the constitution or states rights all we want but it’s a net negative for society as a whole.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,939

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    Now do lockdowns, mask and vaccine mandates.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,612 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    By people, they meant the states. You suck at this. The Constitution was a restriction on the federal government. You should read the 10th amendment. There was no right to an abortion in 1789. It wasn't a right "retained" by the people. It was a super constitutional right created by whole cloth by leftards. I don't see "emantations" and "penumbras" anywhere in the document.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,612 Standard Supporter

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    Overturning Roe was RIGHT for a plethora of reasons.

    Abortion is not a Constitutional right. It's not whether 1 poor mother terminates a pregnancy or 1,000,000 poor mothers terminate pregnancies. It's not about the pragmatic approach to poverty. It's about Constitutional law.

    The SCOTUS assigned the task of determining legality and terms of abortion back to the states where it rightfully belongs. This helps the right in the long run - as without that determination, everything else they stand for can be overturned and mandated at the federal level.


    You'll note the democratic controlled House and Senate haven't touched the third rail of abortion either - because they know misdefinition of the allowable term of abortion puts them in a corner. They lose their extreme leftists by putting limits on when abortion is allowable, they look like baby killers if they don't.




    It’s a net negative for society. More poor people having babies only hurts the whole in the long run.

    I’m not even focusing on women’s rights, I’m focusing on what’s best for society as a whole in our current climate.

    Who do you think is taking care of these poor peoples babies? The taxpayers are bearing the financial burden. Society is paying the criminal burden.

    Many of the parents who get abortions don’t deserve to have babies anyway and now many will have them. Put two and two together on that bad boy.

    Lets force a poor drug addicted 19 year old in certain states to bring a baby into this world. Makes complete sense…..we can talk about the constitution or states rights all we want but it’s a net negative for society as a whole.
    Then vote to fix the "problem". We did in Washington, Oregon and California. You can fix the problem in the 9th month.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,939

    HHusky said:

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    By people, they meant the states. You suck at this. The Constitution was a restriction on the federal government. You should read the 10th amendment. There was no right to an abortion in 1789. It wasn't a right "retained" by the people. It was a super constitutional right created by whole cloth by leftards. I don't see "emantations" and "penumbras" anywhere in the document.

    Reproductive choice and personal decision making in connection therewith. Practiced by Americans in 1789 and for two-and-a-half centuries before any statutory restriction on abortion.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    By people, they meant the states. You suck at this. The Constitution was a restriction on the federal government. You should read the 10th amendment. There was no right to an abortion in 1789. It wasn't a right "retained" by the people. It was a super constitutional right created by whole cloth by leftards. I don't see "emantations" and "penumbras" anywhere in the document.

    Reproductive choice and personal decision making in connection therewith. Practiced by Americans in 1789 and for two-and-a-half centuries before any statutory restriction on abortion.
    Fuck off.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,062 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Overturning Roe vs Wade was just stupid for a plethora of reasons.

    Namely the poor being the people who have too many babies in the first place. Now they will have more.

    Just stupid. As a conservative I get upset when politicians let religion dictate policy.

    This only hurts the right in the long run and rightfully so.

    As a conservative, I get upset when ostensibly educated people can't read and understand a 4,440 word document which explicitly has a right to free speech and the right to bear arms but doesn't have a right to an abortion.
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    By people, they meant the states. You suck at this. The Constitution was a restriction on the federal government. You should read the 10th amendment. There was no right to an abortion in 1789. It wasn't a right "retained" by the people. It was a super constitutional right created by whole cloth by leftards. I don't see "emantations" and "penumbras" anywhere in the document.

    Reproductive choice and personal decision making in connection therewith. Practiced by Americans in 1789 and for two-and-a-half centuries before any statutory restriction on abortion.
    So what

    Cocaine was legal

    There is no right to abortion and certainly no right to privacy Adolf

    People should be refused care and employment if they don't get a shot

    Fuck off

    You live in a state where abortion is legal

    Enjoy